Catholic Church Waging War on Women and Gays

Oct 30, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Fables of the reconstruction

“Pharmacists must seek to raise people's awareness so that all human beings are protected from conception to natural death, and so that medicines truly play a therapeutic role”

Pope Benedict XVI said Monday that pharmacists have a right to use conscientious objection to avoid dispensing emergency contraception or euthanasia drugs - and told them they should also inform patients of the ... via Fables of the reconstruction

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Svaha

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Aug 22, 2013
 
Bitner wrote:
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LOL! Well, the trouble with that is they aren't supposed to do the tattoo if you're drunk :)
but a beautiful tattoo nevertheless:-)

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Aug 23, 2013
 
Ink wrote:
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And you can provide a verse that says the opposite of what I stated?
It's not really worth my time and effort (that I don't really have) to find them for you... but I'm sure you could if you wanted to. Surely your not denying that many Christians don't follow what Jesus allegedly said, but rather other parts of the bible to justify their actions.
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Christians are followers of and believers in Christ.
Sort of. They're supposed to be, but many who call themselves Christians actually ignore a lot of what Christ allegedly said and taught. They may use his name, but they don't follow his example.
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What did He say or do that you find offensive?
I'm not sure why you ask this. Where did I say that I found Christ offensive?
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"Go to last page" seem to be locked
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June VanDerMark wrote:
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Before abortion was legal, all women were denied their rights.
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No woman in the history usa has ever been denied a "life-saving abortion".
Before abortion was legal, all women were denied their rights.
zef wrote:
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No woman in the history usa has ever been denied a "life-saving abortion".
Besides which the phrase "life-saving abortion" is an oxymoron since abortion always kills somebody.
Furthermore most of the people killed with abortion are female, and female humans are women.
Age has nothing to do with who is or isn't a woman.

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zef wrote:
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No woman in the history usa has ever been denied a "life-saving abortion".
Before abortion was legal, all women were denied their rights.
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Age has nothing to do with who is or isn't a woman.
When abortion was illegal, Regardless of age, ALL women were denied abortions. That (according to those in religion) was the POINT of making abortion illegal.
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From the book,“ABORTION IN AMERICA,” the origins and evolution of national policy, by James C. Mohr, comes the following…………….

Ten years passed before Catholic spokesmen in the United States took further public action against abortion. In the spring of 1869 Bishop Spaulding of Baltimore released a pastoral condemnation of abortion that emanated from a council of Bishops held in his city that year. Spaulding enunciated what was generally considered to be the orthodox Catholic position on abortion for the next hundred years:“The murder of an infant before its birth is, in the sight of God and his Church, as great a crime, as would be the killing of a child after birth…. No mother is allowed, under any circumstances, to permit the death of her unborn infant, not even for the sake of preserving her own life.”

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Aug 24, 2013
 
From what I studied, physicians were the first ones to put the pressure on all society in the United States in their drive to make abortion illegal. Many of them could see women dying in droves and they thought that making it illegal would stop the women from having the abortions. But they were wrong. Once it became illegal, women of wealth were able to go to the physicians that could be bought off, or to physicians in other countries where abortions were legal, and the women that were poor resorted to the same back-street types of abortions as usual ... to become infected and often die at the hands of those who were not qualified medically to carry out the procedures.
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Aug 25, 2013
 
June VanDerMark wrote:
From what I studied, physicians were the first ones to put the pressure on all society in the United States in their drive to make abortion illegal. Many of them could see women dying in droves and they thought that making it illegal would stop the women from having the abortions. But they were wrong. Once it became illegal, women of wealth were able to go to the physicians that could be bought off, or to physicians in other countries where abortions were legal, and the women that were poor resorted to the same back-street types of abortions as usual ... to become infected and often die at the hands of those who were not qualified medically to carry out the procedures.
http://law.jrank.org/pages/5508/Comstock-Law-...

this war on women has been going on for a very long time:-)

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http://law.jrank.org/pages/5508/Comstock-Law-...
this war on women has been going on for a very long time:-)
Yep! Anthony Comstock and his Victorian "morality" were quite the pair!

Anthony seemed to think of his self as another "moral" male-servant of a male deity.
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It's not really worth my time and effort (that I don't really have) to find them for you... but I'm sure you could if you wanted to. Surely your not denying that many Christians don't follow what Jesus allegedly said, but rather other parts of the bible to justify their actions.
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Sort of. They're supposed to be, but many who call themselves Christians actually ignore a lot of what Christ allegedly said and taught. They may use his name, but they don't follow his example.
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I'm not sure why you ask this. Where did I say that I found Christ offensive?
It is always worth your time to make statements that are true and if that takes a little research, so be it.

It is hard to have an honest conversation if one person makes stuff up and throws it out as fact.

It takes a lot of effort to live your life in the way you think Jesus wanted us to. It is so hard that many of us don't bother. Then again some of us really try and yet fall short. I think that as long as we are really trying in spite of set backs, that is all that is asked.
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It is always worth your time to make statements that are true and if that takes a little research, so be it.
It is hard to have an honest conversation if one person makes stuff up and throws it out as fact.
It takes a lot of effort to live your life in the way you think Jesus wanted us to. It is so hard that many of us don't bother. Then again some of us really try and yet fall short. I think that as long as we are really trying in spite of set backs, that is all that is asked.
So what you're saying is that you're just like all those "christians" Tre was talking about? Well we knew that:-) By the way, loved your comment about "honest conversation". When will you start??
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So what you're saying is that you're just like all those "christians" Tre was talking about? Well we knew that:-) By the way, loved your comment about "honest conversation". When will you start??
I think maybe you aren't capable of knowing what is honest or dishonest. You have conveniently place everyone in the same box.

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Ink wrote:
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It is always worth your time to make statements that are true and if that takes a little research, so be it.
It is hard to have an honest conversation if one person makes stuff up and throws it out as fact.
It takes a lot of effort to live your life in the way you think Jesus wanted us to. It is so hard that many of us don't bother. Then again some of us really try and yet fall short. I think that as long as we are really trying in spite of set backs, that is all that is asked.
It sounds like you're accusing me of lying and being dishonest, just because I don't want to jump through your hoops. I have read most of the bible, but I don't have it memorized... so trying to find a particular verse in a rather large publication is sometimes a bit more than you should reasonably expect someone on a forum to do.

I haven't lied. If you're going to accuse me, go ahead, but be more specific. My time on the internet is limited these days, so I'm not about to spend it all on your nonsense.

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Ink wrote:
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It is always worth your time to make statements that are true and if that takes a little research, so be it.
It is hard to have an honest conversation if one person makes stuff up and throws it out as fact.
It takes a lot of effort to live your life in the way you think Jesus wanted us to. It is so hard that many of us don't bother. Then again some of us really try and yet fall short. I think that as long as we are really trying in spite of set backs, that is all that is asked.
And you still haven't answered why you asked "What did He say or do that you find offensive?" What made you assume that I'm offended by Christ?

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So what you're saying is that you're just like all those "christians" Tre was talking about? Well we knew that:-) By the way, loved your comment about "honest conversation". When will you start??
I personally don't have a problem with people not being perfect. It is those who act us if they ARE perfect and judge others self-righteously who I find difficult to tolerate... and many of those people behave that way in the name of Christianity. Ink wants to deny this.

Ink's implication that I'm dishonest is just to distract from his/her own dishonesty... along with attempts to send me on a wild goose chase for bible verses instead of just addressing what we were discussing. Every reply is a move AWAY from the original discussion. A while back I had the impression that Ink was a more reasonable person. I was wrong.

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I think maybe you aren't capable of knowing what is honest or dishonest. You have conveniently place everyone in the same box.
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I personally don't have a problem with people not being perfect. It is those who act us if they ARE perfect and judge others self-righteously who I find difficult to tolerate... and many of those people behave that way in the name of Christianity. Ink wants to deny this.
Ink's implication that I'm dishonest is just to distract from his/her own dishonesty... along with attempts to send me on a wild goose chase for bible verses instead of just addressing what we were discussing. Every reply is a move AWAY from the original discussion. A while back I had the impression that Ink was a more reasonable person. I was wrong.
I have already agreed with you about some people don't act very Christly, even those that say they represent them.
Saying that I deny that is not truthful. I can go back and find my post if you want.
I do think it is reasonable to look things up if you aren't sure about what you are saying.
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represent Him not them
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Tre H wrote:
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And you still haven't answered why you asked "What did He say or do that you find offensive?" What made you assume that I'm offended by Christ?
At first I thought that you were offended by Christians but then something you said made me think it was Christ too. I guess it doeasn't really matter. Why did you read the Bible so many times?
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Ink wrote:
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I think maybe you aren't capable of knowing what is honest or dishonest. You have conveniently place everyone in the same box.
No my dear. You're the one who does that. It's called projection. Projecting your feelings onto someone else.
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Tre H wrote:
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I personally don't have a problem with people not being perfect. It is those who act us if they ARE perfect and judge others self-righteously who I find difficult to tolerate... and many of those people behave that way in the name of Christianity. Ink wants to deny this.
Ink's implication that I'm dishonest is just to distract from his/her own dishonesty... along with attempts to send me on a wild goose chase for bible verses instead of just addressing what we were discussing. Every reply is a move AWAY from the original discussion. A while back I had the impression that Ink was a more reasonable person. I was wrong.
It's another "if you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance baffle 'em with bullshit":-)

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