Homosexuality, Like Short Tempers, Is Merely a Character Flaw

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Thems be the words of New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan, who's making a sport out of faith-based bigotry. The leader of America's second largest Roman Catholic diocese, who took the post in April, wasted no time jumping into the gay marriage debate. The man trafficking in flawed science is one of those "smiling bigots" you've been hearing so much about. In fact, New York magazine just dubbed him "The Archbishop of Charm" in a new piece that puts the Washington Post's lauding profile of NOM's Brian Brown to shame.

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“To push the boundaries....”

Since: Oct 07

Nazereth, Israel

#2265 Oct 24, 2009
dances with weebles wrote:
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on which side of the 'situation', though? it seems that if you're looking at it from that angle, then it'd be better to be the eater, than the eatee. on the other hand, are you sure that's what they meant when they talked about being eaten?
As the Yilane would say "Eat or be eaten".

“laugh until your belly hurts”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#2266 Oct 24, 2009
biiguy wrote:
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As the Yilane would say "Eat or be eaten".
hell, i've been eaten and have thoroughly enjoyed the experience. how about you?

“To push the boundaries....”

Since: Oct 07

Nazereth, Israel

#2267 Oct 24, 2009
dances with weebles wrote:
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hell, i've been eaten and have thoroughly enjoyed the experience. how about you?
I've done both, with both sexes... & it's grrrrrreat

“Know Your Culture!!!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#2268 Oct 24, 2009
flyboy wrote:
<quoted text>The majority of the world? Yeah, if you believe what Iraq or Africa has to say really should influence your opinions. In the US, about 60% of people consider homosexuality an accept lifestyle. Maybe you should look to what modern I was born that way, it is a choice? Oh, ok. So you CHOOSE to be straight, and deny your gay desires, because that is what is right for you to do? Thanks for admitting your bisexuality. I mean, if you were straight, how do you possibly know how or why someone is gay? Yeah, thanks for coming out the closet.
A defect? And you are a medical doctor of some sort? I don't think so. Lets see what medical organizations have to say:
http://www.apahelpcenter.org/articles/article...
In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association confirmed the importance of the new, better-designed research and removed homosexuality from the official manual that lists mental and emotional disorders. Two years later, the American Psychological Association passed a resolution supporting this removal.
Seems like you are just wanting to say mean and deceitful things to cut me down, and boost your opinion. Why is that? Is there a reason you are so insecure and paranoid?
My daddy didn't spank me? Oh, so that is why you hate men being with other men. Bad life experiences, huh? Yeah, my dad was in the Army, a conservative Catholic, and guess what? HE ISN'T ANTI-GAY AND THINKS HOMOPHOBES ARE CRAZY. People like you he considers crazy jokes. I tend to agree.
Sexual orientation has nothing to do with character. That is a personality trait. And gay men have more testosterone than straight men. Nothing more manly than 2 men being together.
http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abst...
So no, I have no anger. No grudges. Just pure hilarity how people who are obsessed with the sexual orientation and sex lives of other adults can in ANY way think they are somehow normal or mentally and emotionally healthy. Delusional people are funny. You can go back to obsessing over gay men, NORMAL people are going to live their lives now.
I see that your impression of a relationship is OFF. I also see how your opinion has been infuenced by OTHER gay people. My point from the beginning was if you put effort into Being a Man it makes you Proud!! Proud to stand on your own two feet and carry on your Family name. Proud to see your children Grow and become successful!! Proud to have Family that loves you for the Man you are.... We as a society need to dicipline our children and serve as role models with FAMILY virtues!. stick together when times are tough and dont give up on our children.... You Flyboy need counceling... your image of what is right was far Off and its probably not your fault! To Start a life without TRYING to be like a Woman. IT doesnt come natural!! You can be a Man without TRYING!! just Stand up for yourself AS A MAN!!! Dont give up! your young... You can find a beautiful Woman to Fall in love with and you wont regret it!!!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#2269 Oct 25, 2009
MAKA MAN wrote:
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I see that your impression of a relationship is OFF. I also see how your opinion has been infuenced by OTHER gay people. My point from the beginning was if you put effort into Being a Man it makes you Proud!! Proud to stand on your own two feet and carry on your Family name. Proud to see your children Grow and become successful!! Proud to have Family that loves you for the Man you are.... We as a society need to dicipline our children and serve as role models with FAMILY virtues!. stick together when times are tough and dont give up on our children.... You Flyboy need counceling... your image of what is right was far Off and its probably not your fault! To Start a life without TRYING to be like a Woman. IT doesnt come natural!! You can be a Man without TRYING!! just Stand up for yourself AS A MAN!!! Dont give up! your young... You can find a beautiful Woman to Fall in love with and you wont regret it!!!
MAKA MAN wrote "I see that your impression of a relationship is OFF".
my answer... that's not your decision to make. Quit judging, you really suck at it.

MAKA MAN wrote "I also see how your opinion has been infuenced by OTHER gay people".
my answer ...You lie you cannot see that, you are assuming.

MAKA MAN wrote "My point from the beginning was if you put effort into Being a Man it makes you Proud!!"
my answer...Do you believe that one should not have pride in being to themselves?

MAKA MAN wrote " Proud to stand on your own two feet and carry on your Family name."
Are you also referring to all family names or how he carries his? You don't know that do you?
In his words I see a real man who is true to himself and proudly stands alongside his father.

MAKA MAN wrote "Proud to see your children Grow and become successful!! "
my answer...If he has or chooses to have children, why would you assume that he would feel no pride?

MAKA MAN wrote "Proud to have Family that loves you for the Man you are.... "
my answer... Are your reading comp skills off a bit? He has shown that is exactly how his family feels.
MAKA MAN wrote "We as a society need to dicipline our children and serve as role models with FAMILY virtues! stick together when times are tough and dont give up on our children.... "
my answer...Do you again assume that his life is without virtue or discipline or he would give up on his children?

MAKA MAN wrote "You Flyboy need counceling... your image of what is right was far Off and its probably not your fault!!"
my answer...how does being born gay fit into your judgmental little rant?

MAKA MAN wrote "To Start a life without TRYING to be like a Woman. IT doesnt come natural!! You can be a Man without TRYING!! just Stand up for yourself AS A MAN!!! Dont give up!"
my answer...trying to be a woman" a gay man tries to be a woman" is that what you think homosexuality is about. You are wrong. A gay man accepting himself will try only to be a gay man.
MAKA MAN wrote "your young... You can find a beautiful Woman to Fall in love with and you wont regret it!!!"
my answer...Do you think that a straight woman is looking for a gay man to father her children? Or how about your daughter should she marry a man who is not attracted to her? And of course he would regret it. He is attracted to men. and that's the way it should be.
Did you know that gay is not a choice? At what age did you decide that you would be straight?

“Hello homo sapiens sapiens.”

Since: Mar 07

A galaxy near you.

#2270 Oct 25, 2009
MAKA MAN wrote:
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I see that your impression of a relationship is OFF. I also see how your opinion has been infuenced by OTHER gay people. My point from the beginning was if you put effort into Being a Man it makes you Proud!! Proud to stand on your own two feet and carry on your Family name. Proud to see your children Grow and become successful!! Proud to have Family that loves you for the Man you are.... We as a society need to dicipline our children and serve as role models with FAMILY virtues!. stick together when times are tough and dont give up on our children.... You Flyboy need counceling... your image of what is right was far Off and its probably not your fault! To Start a life without TRYING to be like a Woman. IT doesnt come natural!! You can be a Man without TRYING!! just Stand up for yourself AS A MAN!!! Dont give up! your young... You can find a beautiful Woman to Fall in love with and you wont regret it!!!
Except all reliable counselors agree that he is fine just the way he is. It's homophobes like you that need the attitude adjustment, just go see one and get yourself educated on the facts of life.

“Hello homo sapiens sapiens.”

Since: Mar 07

A galaxy near you.

#2271 Oct 25, 2009
dances with weebles wrote:
<quoted text>
on which side of the 'situation', though? it seems that if you're looking at it from that angle, then it'd be better to be the eater, than the eatee. on the other hand, are you sure that's what they meant when they talked about being eaten?
You guys;0).....on the one side I would rather be the eater, on the other side I like to be the one eaten.....and don't pretend you don't know which is which!!!!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#2272 Oct 25, 2009
When will christians quit objecting to abortion?
The day that they can tell if the fetus will be gay.
Until then they will deny a woman's right to her own body choices.
I predict that in less than a decade there will be a test. We then will see who among us are truly human. What will be your reaction if it is your child or grandchild? Will you be able to love or will you reject?

“Hello homo sapiens sapiens.”

Since: Mar 07

A galaxy near you.

#2273 Oct 25, 2009
Reason Personified wrote:
When will christians quit objecting to abortion?
The day that they can tell if the fetus will be gay.
Until then they will deny a woman's right to her own body choices.
I predict that in less than a decade there will be a test. We then will see who among us are truly human. What will be your reaction if it is your child or grandchild? Will you be able to love or will you reject?
I choose love. Now you only need to get concensus of the rest of the planet.
BEDROOM CLOWN

Moline, IL

#2274 Oct 25, 2009
Reason Personified wrote:
When will christians quit objecting to abortion?
The day that they can tell if the fetus will be gay.
Until then they will deny a woman's right to her own body choices.
I predict that in less than a decade there will be a test. We then will see who among us are truly human. What will be your reaction if it is your child or grandchild? Will you be able to love or will you reject?
Thats what coathangers were made for.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#2275 Oct 25, 2009
BEDROOM CLOWN wrote:
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Thats what coathangers were made for.
May the next woman in your bed be a Bobbitt..........Lorena maybe.
flyboy

Richmond, VA

#2277 Oct 25, 2009
MAKA MAN wrote:
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You can find a beautiful Woman to Fall in love with and you wont regret it!!!
My impression of a relationship is not off. A relationship is a loving bond between 2 (or more) people. Relationships have no sexual orientation. Love doesn't discriminate. 2 consensual adults finding love in each other, there is nothing wrong with that. My opinions aren't influenced by other gay people. I don't know ANY heterosexuals who OBSESS over homosexuals, and allow themselves to be paranoid and affected by homosexuals. Sorry.

Being a man? I have a p*nis, deep voice, short hair, and loving it. I am as much of a man as you are. Talking about family values, guess what, homophobia is NOT a family value. Hate is not a family value. Sexual orientation in NO way makes someone less moral or "family". And being straight does not make you in any way a moral superiority.

You need to stop speaking for "society" and speak for yourself. We do need to discipline our children to be moral people, and sexual orientation in no way has any affect on a persons morality. Gay/lesbian people have families, and are a part of families, and lead the same lives heterosexuals do. And that is reality.

http://www.apahelpcenter.org/articles/article...
Sexual orientation and gender identity are not connected. They are not the same concept. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with being a woman or a man. It has to do with who you are attracted to.

I have no desire to be a woman. I love being a man. So much so that I love other men. And I sure am PROUD to be a man who loves other men. And sure not going to let homophobes like you tell me who not to love. So yes, I am a proud man who likes men. And that in no way has anything to do with my character as a whole. I love women too. I am not 100% gay. But men are the one for me. Just like ice cream, some like chocolate and some like vanilla.


Homosexuality is rampant in nature. Making it NATURAL. Family values? There are plenty of gay/lesbian families out there showing all of us what family values are about.

www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/05/gaytostraig...
And sexual attraction, that cannot be changed. I could get with a woman if I wanted, but I don't, because that isn't what I am attracted to. Some people are attracted to the same sex, been this way forever, and the world is still moving. Maybe YOU shouldn't make such a big issue of that. And understand there are gay/lesbian kids as well. And they deserve the same "family values" as you give straight children.

I don't need couseling. See, I am not the one with the problem. You obsessing over peoples' sexual orientation like that in some way affects your life, that is the problem here. Homosexuality does not harm anyone nor affect your life directly in any way. So you want to talk about family values? That would start by worrying about your own life, and minding your own business, and beginning to not be so paranoid about others' sexual orientation, and seeing them as human beings as much as you. And understanding that being gay has absolutely no bearing on being a man. Being a real man has to do with personality and character, and you are SORELY lacking in both. You aren't a real man. You are a joke.
GAY CLOWN

Moline, IL

#2278 Oct 25, 2009
NOT so fast fly boy. Who really cares if you are Gay? Just quit prancing around flaunting your beliefs.Back in the closet boy.
flyboy

Richmond, VA

#2280 Oct 25, 2009
GAY CLOWN wrote:
NOT so fast fly boy. Who really cares if you are Gay? Just quit prancing around flaunting your beliefs.Back in the closet boy.
Quit prancing around flaunting your beliefs? Hahahahahahahaha. Yes, because all gay/lesbian people are running around saying "I suck c**k" or "I am a lesbian, hear me roar". If you REALLY didn't care, you wouldn't have an issue with gay/lesbian people being open with themselves, you know, like how heterosexuals FLAUNT their sexuality on an every day basis. So yeah, you do have a problem, as we has seen forever. The problems are paranoia, insecurity, and obsession. All based on fear.

Back in the closet? I am not a piece of clothing. I am not an animal. I am a human being. I am a legal human being. Just like anyone else. And I am going to be open with who I am, because I can be. Now, maybe you can put your homophobia in the closet, because if you really didn't care, you wouldn't be so affected by gayness. But you are affected. And you do care. And you can't admit that to yourself. That is what fear does to you. Gay/lesbian people aren't the ones with the problem. YOU are the problem. Stop blaming gay/lesbian people for your problems, and you will be fine. Stop being so paranoid over others' sexual orientation, and maybe you won't sound as irrational as you do now. Because gay/lesbian people have been around forever, and aren't going anywhere. So if you REALLY don't care, you are going to have to get over it.
flyboy

Richmond, VA

#2281 Oct 25, 2009
The people who say to gay/lesbian people "stop flaunting yourself" are insecure people who are paranoid and on edge, and very uncomfortable in even the word gay being brought up or any signs of "gay stereotypes" in a person. No-one is really flaunting their sexuality, these people simply want to make believe that homosexuality doesn't exist. They cannot come to grips with it. It shakes them up and affects them deep, which is where the obsession comes in. It is sad really, because these people blame gay/lesbian people for their problems, and feel like they are being attacked, when no-one is doing anything to them.

What it all comes down to at the end of the day is fear. Fear of the unknown. Fear of what you know and don't like. Fear of ones self. Hate is fear. Homophobia is fear. Fear is weak.
Martha

Tulsa, OK

#2282 Oct 25, 2009
Genetic makeup has nothing to do with being gay.
Gay is a word, Queer is a word, Fag is a word, Pervert is a word and hate is not fear.

At the earliest age, when body parts sensations are discovered and the purpose is understood, a person will choose how he wants to satisfy those desires. No one is born homosexual. That is a preference you choose, to be satisfied sexually. Choosing a mate of the same sex, means one of you has to provide the means of the opposite sex to be satisfied. Going contrary to nature is your decision, but the Bible says it is not right. You would have to change your thinking to be acceptable to God.

“laugh until your belly hurts”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#2283 Oct 25, 2009
Martha wrote:
Genetic makeup has nothing to do with being gay.
Gay is a word, Queer is a word, Fag is a word, Pervert is a word and hate is not fear.
At the earliest age, when body parts sensations are discovered and the purpose is understood, a person will choose how he wants to satisfy those desires. No one is born homosexual. That is a preference you choose, to be satisfied sexually. Choosing a mate of the same sex, means one of you has to provide the means of the opposite sex to be satisfied. Going contrary to nature is your decision, but the Bible says it is not right. You would have to change your thinking to be acceptable to God.
and you know all of this, how?
flyboy

Richmond, VA

#2285 Oct 25, 2009
Martha wrote:
Genetic makeup has nothing to do with being gay.
Gay is a word, Queer is a word, Fag is a word, Pervert is a word and hate is not fear.
At the earliest age, when body parts sensations are discovered and the purpose is understood, a person will choose how he wants to satisfy those desires. No one is born homosexual. That is a preference you choose, to be satisfied sexually. Choosing a mate of the same sex, means one of you has to provide the means of the opposite sex to be satisfied. Going contrary to nature is your decision, but the Bible says it is not right. You would have to change your thinking to be acceptable to God.
Oh and:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hat...

Hate: An intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from FEAR, anger or sense of injury.

Meaning, if you allow yourself to be affected by and hate others simply for their sexual orientation, or be against something for others when that makes them happy and doesn't affect anyone, that is FEAR. Simple as that, really. Hate is fear. And your attempts to justify your homophobia are actually pitiful more than anything else. Keep thinking that it is somehow reasonable to obsess with the sex lives of others. Definitely in for a rude awakening. Because God doesn't like hate either, you know "love thy neighbor". Yeah.

“Hello homo sapiens sapiens.”

Since: Mar 07

A galaxy near you.

#2287 Oct 25, 2009
Martha wrote:
Genetic makeup has nothing to do with being gay.
Gay is a word, Queer is a word, Fag is a word, Pervert is a word and hate is not fear.
At the earliest age, when body parts sensations are discovered and the purpose is understood, a person will choose how he wants to satisfy those desires. No one is born homosexual. That is a preference you choose, to be satisfied sexually. Choosing a mate of the same sex, means one of you has to provide the means of the opposite sex to be satisfied. Going contrary to nature is your decision, but the Bible says it is not right. You would have to change your thinking to be acceptable to God.
Hate is a cover up for fear, we hate what we fear, we shun it. Your bible is not a biology book. Your god is not everyone's choice nor in your hateful interpretation acceptable to everyone.

“To push the boundaries....”

Since: Oct 07

Nazereth, Israel

#2288 Oct 25, 2009
Welcome back, flyboy. You're in fine form, as usual.

Hugs to you...

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