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Pope accuser strikes back, blames gay priesthood for abuse

There are 19 comments on the WLEX-TV Lexington story from Friday Oct 19, titled Pope accuser strikes back, blames gay priesthood for abuse. In it, WLEX-TV Lexington reports that:

The Vatican ambassador who accused Pope Francis of rehabilitating a disgraced ex-American cardinal is doubling down on his claims, asserting that the "scourge of homosexuality" in the priesthood is responsible for sex abuse and that the Vatican is being hypocritical in refusing to acknowledge it. Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano issued a third installment Friday in the war of words over the cover-up of ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick.

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“Equality First”

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#3 Friday Oct 19
Derrick wrote:
When you look at the history of boys being sexually abused by priests who else can you blame but gay priests? Straight priests certainly don't molest boys,

Keep gay priests out of the Church!!!
Pedophiles attack children, boys and girls. Some gay men are pedophiles, and some straight men are pedophiles. And believe it or not some women are pedophiles. But all gay men, or all straight men, or all women are not pedophiles. You need to be able to separate types of people in your mind, and not dwell on just one type. Besides, if you left the priesthood to strictly straight men there wouldn't be a priesthood. I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing, but that's another issue.

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#5 Friday Oct 19
Derrick wrote:
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I'm not saying all gay men are pedophiles. But the priests who are molesting boys are gay pedophiles and need to be removed from the Church where they have easy access to boys.
That is not the full answer to the problem. The solution is to put in checks and balances to prevent these things happening to either boys or girls, and to prosecute the offenders, gay or straight. The only reason the church hasn't been doing that is if they do it will reflect badly on the church, and it will lessen the number of priests to "man the fort". Personally, I don't think they really care about the children, but they do care about the money they collect to buy all gold chalices and the robes. My personal opinion is that the church has outworn their welcome, and should be replaced. But then, I'm not a believer in their religion.

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#7 Friday Oct 19
One other question: Why is it that no one talks about the girls abused by priests? I suppose it is the misogyny that is rampant in this country.

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Bryan Fischer s Hair Gel

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#9 Friday Oct 19
Lots of religions and denominations have openly lgbt clergy without massive sex scandals. This is an rcc problem stemming from misogyny, authoritarianism and homophobia. I mean, what sort of organization permits any one adult leader to be alone with any one kid?(Confession being the ultimate, perverted instance of this lapse.) No reputably organization allows anything like that.

"Sex scandals fester at unhealthy organizations, experts say" AP but on foxnews at: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/18/sex-scan...

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Sick Of The Human Race

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#11 Saturday Oct 20
Gay priests will always be in the church because of the nature of separating genders and indoctrinated misogyny. If women are believed to be inferior, less intelligent and unwanted by GOD in positions of authority guess what's left. ALL MALE leadership.

Now let's examine the number of straight priests who have molested young girls or raped nuns, grown women. You can't blame one group and forget the others without going back to that US Vs THEM mentality that is killing the church and killing society.

Here's a thought, make adultery, any sexual assault or sexual act against a minor and unwed sex a crime again. Our prisons can hold another 40,000 a year. Maybe castrate males and sterilize females who can't control their bodies, minds, or obey laws or honor vows. Too strict?

Your churches are built around lies and corruption. Until your tear down the rot nothing you build onto crap will stand. If you can't trust a person with your kids, spouse or money don't put them in positions of authority. Too complicated to understand?
Don

Kitchener, Canada

#12 Saturday Oct 20
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I'm not saying all gay men are pedophiles. But the priests who are molesting boys are gay pedophiles and need to be removed from the Church where they have easy access to boys.
The worst culprits are the non offending priests, bishops and cardinals, who all knew who the offending clergy were, covered up their criminal behavior (for years!), lied to everyone, while each of them preached from the pulpit every Sunday, warning their parishioners to never commit such horrible sins, the very sins they themselves were covering up for their comrades.

Did any of these knowing clergy ever report this information when they went to confession? NO! But they reminded Catholics in the pews they must report their sinful ways!

The followers have are fools!!
Don

Kitchener, Canada

#13 Saturday Oct 20
The ONLY! reason we are learning of these systematic worldwide coverups is because the number of abuses and coverups became so numerous, so overwhelming, they couldn't cover them up anymore.

The church authorities never once called the police on their suspected criminals, it was always the brave victims and their families.

I can't believe Catholics still put money in the collection baskets, paying the salaries and benefits of the clergy, who molested, and the rest who had knowledge, who lied, covered up, and moved these guys around like a shell game, making sure the followers never knew.

Why would God allow this to go on, in an organization that has his name emblazoned on it.

Makes no common sense!

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

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#14 Saturday Oct 20
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
I find this thread very gay.
This forum finds you very stupid. You own it. Any questions? Didn't think so!
whiney beech

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#15 Saturday Oct 20
RalphB wrote:
One other question: Why is it that no one talks about the girls abused by priests? I suppose it is the misogyny that is rampant in this country.
The majority allegedly were boys molested.#metoonocare?

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#16 Saturday Oct 20
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The majority allegedly were boys molested.#metoonocare?
Who cares about majority or minority when children are at risk. Don't they ALL deserve to feel safe, especially a a church of all places?
whiney beech

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#17 Saturday Oct 20
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Who cares about majority or minority when children are at risk. Don't they ALL deserve to feel safe, especially a a church of all places?
What was, or perhaps is, is the issue not some crap indicating young girls were left out of the equation.

Children should BE safe everywhere. But when dealing with twisted people you never know what you will get.

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L Craig s Hush Puppies

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#18 Saturday Oct 20
whiney beech wrote:
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What was, or perhaps is, is the issue not some crap indicating young girls were left out of the equation.
Children should BE safe everywhere. But when dealing with twisted people you never know what you will get.
Given the endemic abuse of girls within extended nuclear families and the endemic raping of women we know who the twisted people are, even though you're in denial.

Lots of sects and denominations have lgbt clergy and openly lgbt clergy without anything like the rcc scandal and coverup, so we know the problem is not lgbt people, or even str8 people in the rcc, the problem is the rcc - misogyny, authoritarianism, homophobia, bizarre notions about sexual matters. "Twisted" is the correct word. Except your use of "twisted" is distorted.
Frankie Rizzo

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#19 Saturday Oct 20
Imprtnrd wrote:
<quoted text>This forum finds you very stupid. You own it. Any questions? Didn't think so!
Another very lame argument from the rainbow peanut gallery.

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#20 Saturday Oct 20
L Craig s Hush Guppies wrote:
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Given the endemic abuse of girls within extended nuclear families and the endemic raping of women we know who the twisted people are, even though you're in denial.

Lots of sects and denominations have lgbt clergy and openly lgbt clergy without anything like the rcc scandal and coverup, so we know the problem is not lgbt people, or even str8 people in the rcc, the problem is the rcc - misogyny, authoritarianism, homophobia, bizarre notions about sexual matters. "Twisted" is the correct word. Except your use of "twisted" is distorted.
Denial? I do not even swim. Do you drive a Ford?

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#21 Sunday Oct 21
They will answer to God for their sins and will be judged harshly. Children are precious and innocent and no child or boy or young man should be violated in this way! Worried about Kavanaugh when you have churches and the pope condoning this sickness. Makes you wonder just where the Catholic Church is headed and the people that follow and say nothing!

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VP Mullah Elect Pence

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#23 Sunday Oct 21
reality wrote:
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They will answer to God for their sins and will be judged harshly. Children are precious and innocent and no child or boy or young man should be violated in this way!
Same "sin" line, you would think, for all the violent rapists of women and all the men (mostly) sexually abusing their younger, female (mostly) relatives.

But you are not as psychosexually invested in those far more ubiquitous offenses.

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““I See Stupid People””

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#24 Sunday Oct 21
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>Another very lame argument from the rainbow peanut gallery.
I was going to reply a thumbs up to Imprtmrd...but since you decided to engage I felt it more appropriate to reply to the the source...

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid all of you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. The kind of stupid that goes way beyond any stupid we currently know or can measure...this takes is into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid, Meta-stupid, stupidus originalis et eternum. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularly stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid.

You singularly emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. I am describing Quasar stupid. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid.

Perhaps you possess some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid as uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know.

All that being said...well I think that about covers it...

Warmest regards,
G Blanston

P.S. I don’t really mean the warm regards...but I figure your too stupid to know that so it looks like a nice touch...Im just sayin...

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Frankie Rizzo

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#26 Sunday Oct 21
G Blanston wrote:
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I was going to reply a thumbs up to Imprtmrd...but since you decided to engage I felt it more appropriate to reply to the the source...

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid all of you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. The kind of stupid that goes way beyond any stupid we currently know or can measure...this takes is into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid, Meta-stupid, stupidus originalis et eternum. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularly stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid.

You singularly emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. I am describing Quasar stupid. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid.

Perhaps you possess some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid as uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know.

All that being said...well I think that about covers it...

Warmest regards,
G Blanston

P.S. I don’t really mean the warm regards...but I figure your too stupid to know that so it looks like a nice touch...Im just sayin...
Relax fruitloops.

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““I See Stupid People””

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#27 Sunday Oct 21
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>Relax fruitloops.
Hey I’m walking here!!! There is a very popular myth that human brain usage is maxed at 10 percent. You obviously are a subscriber...I say the truth shall set you free. What do you say that you kick in another 3 percent. Just a little something that allows you to make a valid statement rather than just some stupid comment about “being gay”...

Now the question that may need to be answered is are you ignorant or are you stupid? Ignorance is nothing to be ashamed of Frankie as it is merely the lack of knowing and is easily reversible via education. Stupid on the other hand...is terminal! Your case may not look good...

Ignorance and stupid can go hand in hand. The ignorant man who refuses to accept education and knowledge that will reverse his ignorance crosses the line to stupid. Are you that man...my instinct tells me yes.

However, take the example here....if your going to insult someone...do it with a little style and flare. Frootloops...that’s it...that’s all you got!!! Come on man...with a little effort and ingenuity and another 3 percent surely you can do better.

Don’t go and kid yourself...Make no mistake I have written you off as a canker sore on humanity, but I set a high bar...even for canker sores...Im just sayin...

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