U.S. cardinal defends Catholic stance on gay marriage

Mar 31, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Daily Star

US cardinal Timothy Michael Dolan attends a mass at the St Peter's basilica before the conclave in this March 12, 2013 file photo at the Vatican.

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<quoted text>If that is true why is congress voting on gun control?
CONGRESS is the U.S. Senate AND the U.S. House Of Represntatives, and CONGRESS is NOT "voting on gun control". The Senate has not voted on a so-called "gun control" bill, and I seriously doubt that the U.S. House Of Representatives will vote on one at all in this session.

And please explain how making certain guns illegal to own or possess prevents criminals (i.e. "people who refuse to follow the law") from carrying out murders similar to the high-profile murders we have seen in the press lately ?

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Fa-Foxy .. you support polygamy .. right ?

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Fa-Foxy .. you support polygamy .. right ?.. Y/N

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And speaking of "gun control" oneof teh predictable results of people pushing this ridiculous idea, is the fact that now here in Arizona, they are GIVING AWAY FREE shotguns to people !:)

And guns don't kill people. People kill people.

Before guns were invented, nobody was ever murdered. Noboy was ever killed. Wars didn't slaughters millions of people, etc...
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Fa-Foxy wrote:
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CONGRESS is the U.S. Senate AND the U.S. House Of Represntatives, and CONGRESS is NOT "voting on gun control". The Senate has not voted on a so-called "gun control" bill, and I seriously doubt that the U.S. House Of Representatives will vote on one at all in this session.
And please explain how making certain guns illegal to own or possess prevents criminals (i.e. "people who refuse to follow the law") from carrying out murders similar to the high-profile murders we have seen in the press lately ?
Your post in no way answers the question I asked you in response to your statement that constitional rights are not subject to majority vote.

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welp !!.. looks like we lost foxy .. oh, well .. questions musta run her right into a brick wall .. ouch !!

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welp !!.. looks like we lost foxy .. oh, well .. questions musta run her right into a brick wall .. ouch !!
I think I can answer your question about polygamy. If one believes it is Constitutional, then it is incumbent upon that person to take it to court, and push it all the way to the SCOTUS to find out if he/she is correct. Currently there are laws on the books against it, and they have to be challenged. Unless, of course, you can get your legislature to revoke those laws. But even if you do that you will have to fight the Feds for the benefits. I wish you luck. Personally, I don't care one way or the other, and am to busy working for Marriage Equality for gays and lesbians to be worried about it. I don't have a dog in that fight.

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I think I can answer your question about polygamy. If one believes it is Constitutional, then it is incumbent upon that person to take it to court, and push it all the way to the SCOTUS to find out if he/she is correct. Currently there are laws on the books against it, and they have to be challenged. Unless, of course, you can get your legislature to revoke those laws. But even if you do that you will have to fight the Feds for the benefits. I wish you luck. Personally, I don't care one way or the other, and am to busy working for Marriage Equality for gays and lesbians to be worried about it. I don't have a dog in that fight.
In a sense, polygamy is not illegal. What the federal government and state governments will not do is legally reconie a polygamous marriage for teh sake of government benefits. For example, if one has a "religious authority" marry a man to more than one wife ("polyandry" is a woman marrying more thanone husband), the man and his wives COULD live together as a family, even happily, and do all the acts and things that married people do together, including sexual relationships, but the government simply won't recognize it. And unless you obtain multiple marriage licenses to try to have the governments legally recognize the plural marriages, they are not going to arrest and you and prosecute you for living as man and wife involving multiple people.

And the people who would engage in these relationships is probably exceedingly small.

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<quoted text>If that is true why is congress voting on gun control?
They aren't voting to change the constitution.

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"Gun control" is a dead issue and a "gun control" bill is not going to pass congress. How exactly would a "gun control" bill have stopped the highly-publicized mass shootings of the past few years ? Remember that the mass shooting that took place in Connecticut by that deranged person was committed with guns that were LEGALLY purchased and owned by a person who was LEGALLY allowed to own them.

A strict "gun control" law is obviously not going to have any effect because, criminals, by definition, don't follow teh law.

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Fa-Foxy wrote:
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In a sense, polygamy is not illegal. What the federal government and state governments will not do is legally reconie a polygamous marriage for teh sake of government benefits. For example, if one has a "religious authority" marry a man to more than one wife ("polyandry" is a woman marrying more thanone husband), the man and his wives COULD live together as a family, even happily, and do all the acts and things that married people do together, including sexual relationships, but the government simply won't recognize it. And unless you obtain multiple marriage licenses to try to have the governments legally recognize the plural marriages, they are not going to arrest and you and prosecute you for living as man and wife involving multiple people.
And the people who would engage in these relationships is probably exceedingly small.
Well, polygamy in the religious sense is not illegal, but I would think if one tried it with multiple marriage licenses from the state, he or she could be charged with bigamy, correct?

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Well, polygamy in the religious sense is not illegal, but I would think if one tried it with multiple marriage licenses from the state, he or she could be charged with bigamy, correct?
Yes. That's what i said.
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<quoted text>They aren't voting to change the constitution.
No, but they are discussing writing laws that many feel violate the constitution- just like many feel DOMA does. My point which seems to have flown right over your head is that laws are sometimes passed to placate the majority that violate constitutional rights and the minority has to fight those laws. The post I responded to said that civil rights are not subject to majority vote- in the real world they often are.

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