Filipino bishops: We will strip Catho...

Filipino bishops: We will strip Catholic status if schools defy Church teaching

There are 435 comments on the DFW Catholic story from Aug 21, 2012, titled Filipino bishops: We will strip Catholic status if schools defy Church teaching. In it, DFW Catholic reports that:

Catholic schools that fail to uphold Church teaching may be stripped of their affiliation with the Church, the Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines warned last week.

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ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#1 Aug 22, 2012
Why not strip first the Catholic Church of its nefarious false teachings and then disband for the benefit of human beings who were duped to follow unscriptural teachings???

Salvation is very imporatant to man and the existence of a spurious religion is a bane and not a boon to the most imporatnt of all creations, mankind!!!

If the Vatican refuses to change, then, people have no choice but to abandon this planting of the devil!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#2 Aug 22, 2012
The Roman Catholic Church is a spurious religion. Let us focus our discussion this time on the great harlot mentioned in the Bible, which has its fulfillment in the Roman Catholic Church:

"Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me,“Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”(Rev. 17:1-2, New King James Version)

Here the Bible talks about a woman who sits on many waters. In the light of the Scriptures we have learned that the true Church was likened to a chaste virgin or pure woman. It follows then that the "great harlot" mentioned in the prophecy refers to an evil of false church.

Let us now begin to decipher this biblical prophecy to identify which church is the fulfillment of this prophesied great harlot. What are the waters upon which the great harlot sits? In Revelation 17:15, this is stated:

"Then he said to me,“The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues." (NKJV)

The waters upon which the great harlot sits are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. This church "sits on many waters" meaning it is worldwide.

Who is the woman who has spread throughout peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues or languages? In Revelation 17:5, this is the pronouncement:

"And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." (NKJV)

The great harlot who sits on many nations of the world has the name Babylon. What is the meaning of Babylon, which is the name of the great harlot who has spread throughout many nations? In the footnote of l Peter 5:13, in a Catholic Version of the Bible, this could be read:

"Babylon: Rome. A metaphor probably founded on Jewish usage." (Douay)

The city of Rome was called Babylon. So the name Rome would be called upon this great harlot. This is the one with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication.

Post 1...to be continued
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#3 Aug 22, 2012
Posdt 2...continuation

Which church bears the name Rome and has spread throughout the whole world? In a Catholic book entitled Catholic Catechism, Part ll, on page 146, this could be read:

"The Church is called Roman Catholic because its chief ruler is the lawful bishop of Rome.

"The word "Catholic" means universal,''extending all over the world.'"

The Catholic Church is called Catholic, because she is universal or extends all over the world. The Catholic Church is called Roman, because her chief ruler is the lawful bishop of Rome. The name Roman Catholic Church was not taken from the Bible. Instead, it was only made by Catholic authorities.

What is the proof that the Roman Catholic Church committed fornication with kings of the earth? In a history book entitled The Modern World, written by Francis S. Betten, S.J., on pages 89 and 344, this is stated:

"Papacy and empire were to stand side by side, each supreme in its own sphere, the emperor being ever ready to support with physical force the spiritual government of the pope and to defend all the interests of the Church of God on earth.

"...the Church created a special tribunal, the Papal or Universal Inquisition. The essential features of its method were fixed by a set of laws passed jointly by Pope Lucius lll and Emperor Barbarossa in 1184. The minor details had been added by 1230. Such spiritual courts of justice were established in localities most infected by erroneous teachings.... The state, too, considered heresy as a crime, because it undermined the foundations of public welfare. The penalties fixed by the secular laws for heresy was death by fire. This was never inflicted by the ecclesiastical judge."

A Jesuit priest, Francis S. Betten, alludes to the historical fact that the Pope and the Emperor once stood side by side. Both conspired to create a tribunal - the Inquisition - a court that tried those whom they called heretics, or people who objected to techings of the Catholic Church. The civil government was the one that inflicted punishment in the behest of the Catholic Church.
Like Israel of old, the first-century Church, once the apostles died, fornicated with kings and betrayed our Lord Jesus Christ. This is also proof of apostasy.

Post 2...to be continued

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#4 Aug 22, 2012
Post 2...End.

After the Catholic Church killed people by means of the Inquisition, what did she fear might happen to her?

In a Catholic book entitled The Story of the Church by Rev. George Johnson, Ph. D., Rev. Jerome D. Hannan, Ph. D., and M. Dominica, O. S. U.., Ph. D., with Nihil Obstat by Arthur J. Scanlan and Imprimatur by Patrick Cardinal Hayes, on page 237, this is stated:

"However, it might have been better had the leaders of the Church remembered what our Lord said to St. Peter when he cut off the ear of the servant of the high priest in the Garden of Olives,'Put up thy sword into its scabbard, for know you not that he that taketh the sword shall perish by the sword?' The time would come that Protestant rulers, supported by the Protestant churches, would follow the example of the Inquisition and torture Catholics and put them to death with great cruelty."

After killing people through the Inquisistion, the
leadership of the Catholic Church feared that the time would come when Protestants would employ the same system and that they would be the ones killed or punished severely. They were afraid that they might suffer cruelty at the hands of Protestants.

Therefore, the prophecy about the great harlot who committed fornication with the kings of the earth was fulfilled in the Roman Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church gained power and influence through her fornication with earthly rulers and authorities.

End.

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#5 Aug 22, 2012
When our Lord Jesus Christ established His Church in the city of Jerusalem in the first century, who acted as head of the organization??? The Bible has this to say:

"And he is the head of the body, the church." (Col. 1:18, NIV)

Our Lord Jesus Christ is the head of the organization or Church which He established!!! The Church is His body!!! Take notice of the mention of the words "body" and "church" for these are all in singular form!!!

Therefore the thousands of cults and false religions not named after the founder of the first-century Church of Christ are bogus religions and has no connection to our Lord Jesus Christ!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#6 Aug 22, 2012
Colossians 1:18 states that the head of the Church which is the body of Christ is our Lord Jesus Christ Himself!!! Let us now compare whether the Roman Catholic Church has our Lord Jesus Christ as its head!!!

In a Catholic book entitled Catholic Catechism, Part ll, on page 146, this could be read:

"The Church is called Roman Catholic because its chief ruler is the lawful bishop of Rome."

The head or chief ruler of the the Roman Catholic Church is the lawful bishop of Rome!!! He is the Pope!!!

Therefore the Roman Catholic Church is not the first-century Church of Christ founded in the City of Jerusalem!!! The Catholic Church's head is the Pope while the Church of Christ has Christ as Her head for She is the singular body of Christ!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#7 Aug 22, 2012
What then is the name of the first-century Church established by our Lord Jesus Christ??? A Roman Catholic Jesuit priest has this answer:

"5. Did Jesus Christ establish a Church? Yes, from all history, both secular and profane, as well as from the Bible considered as a human document, we learn that Jesus Christ established a Church, which from the earliest times has been called after Him the Christian Church or the Church of Christ."

Reference:[Cassilly, Francis B., S.J. Religion: Doctrine and Practice. For Use in Catholic High Schools pp. 442-443. Twelfth and Revised Edition. USA: Loyola University Press, 1926.

A Roman Catholic Jesuit priest reveals that based on the Bible and from history, a Church was establihed by Christ which from earliest times was called the "Christian Church or the Church of Christ".

Did the Apostles of Christ agree to the said fact that Christ established a Church??? Apostle Paul declares:

"Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood." [Acts 20:28, Lamsa Translation]

Apostle Paul made metion of the fact that the Holy Spirit has appointed overseers to take care of the flock which is the Church of Christ purchased by the blood of Christ!!!

It is therefore not the Catholic Church nor the Protestant cults that Christ established!!! It is the Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo)!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#8 Aug 22, 2012
Is the Roman Catholic Church akin to the first-century Christian Church or Church of Christ??? How about the Protestant cults, can they validly claim that they are similar to the Christian Church or Church of Christ of the first century???

"We Catholics acknowledge readily, without any shame, nay with pride, that Catholicism cannot be identified simply and wholly with primitive Christianity, nor even with the Gospel of Christ, in the same way that the great oak cannot be identified with the tiny acorn."

Reference:(Adam, Karl. The Spirit Of Catholicism, p.2. Revised Edition. Translated by Dom Justin McCann, O.S.B. Nihil Obstat: Arthur J. Scanlan, S.T.D., Censor Librorum. Imprimatur: Patrick cardinal hayes, Archbishop of New York. New York, USA: Image Books, 1954)

"Because Protestantism today is marked by division and duplication, today's churches bear little resemblance to the first century model."

Reference: Moore, Dr. "The Union That Shouldn't Be Labor." Moody Monthly, September 1984. p.28.

None of the biggest world religions is akin to similar to primitive Christianity or the first-century model knows as the Christian Church of the Church of Christ!!!

What then is to be done??? GET OUT FROM THE GREAT HARLOT AND HER DAUGHTERS, THE PROTESTANT CULTS!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

excartpuller

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Aug 22, 2012
Bwahahahahhh! That's absolute power and absolute power corrupts. That's dictatorship don't let them get into your life.
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#11 Aug 23, 2012
excartpuller wrote:
Bwahahahahhh! That's absolute power and absolute power corrupts. That's dictatorship don't let them get into your life.
excartpuller,

You are correct!!! Abandon the false religions of Roman Catholicism and Protestantism!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#12 Aug 23, 2012
excartpuller wrote:
Bwahahahahhh! That's absolute power and absolute power corrupts. That's dictatorship don't let them get into your life.
excartpuller,

Catholic absolute power resulted to millions getting killed through the Inquisitions and Crusades!!! Landgrabbing of the said religion was rampant!!! They built their chapels on sequestered properties and through forced labor!!! No renumerations made of the workers!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#13 Aug 23, 2012
Why should a school uphold teachings that are spurious??? The Catholic Church is now showing her insecurity!!! The pangs of the beast is now being slowly revealed to scare!!!

Another Inquisition is in the works!!! Get out from this false religion!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#14 Aug 24, 2012
excartpuller wrote:
Bwahahahahhh! That's absolute power and absolute power corrupts. That's dictatorship don't let them get into your life.
Excartpuller,

Several Catholic saints were removed from the Vatican roster and there was never a refund to the sponsors!!! No expression of dissent was ever recorded from the pieces of wood except the reactions from their eyes which had turned cross-eyed due to maintenance problems!!!

The termites then had their feeding frenzy and the holes made became shelters of the rats!!! The hantavirus suddenly appeared in the Philippines and the rest of the world!!! Catholic cathedrals should be subjected to quarantine inspections!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
amc

San Juan, Philippines

#15 Aug 24, 2012
let the catholics go their way if thats their threat.

the schools and the country would benefit from their absence.
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#16 Aug 26, 2012
amc wrote:
let the catholics go their way if thats their threat.
the schools and the country would benefit from their absence.
Amc,

Their threats do are destabilizing the country!!! It makes foreigners to think it over about their business plans!!! The Roman Catholic Church is a third column of the West!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#17 Aug 26, 2012
excartpuller wrote:
Bwahahahahhh! That's absolute power and absolute power corrupts. That's dictatorship don't let them get into your life.
Excartpuller,

Thousands are now abandoning the Catholic Church!!! And to contain the departure is their opposition to population control!!! Monetary losses from departures are replaced by money coming from advertisements of a "Mary Seen Everywhere"!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#18 Sep 1, 2012
amc wrote:
let the catholics go their way if thats their threat.
the schools and the country would benefit from their absence.
Amc,

You are absolutely right!!! But will the Catholic Church do it??? Will this false religion has the will to impose their threat??? I don't think so!!! She is scared of a massive departure!!! She will just continue to pretend!!! Look at her molesting and raping priests and nuns, they are being hidden by the Vatican and their abominable acts are being justified!!! The Catholic Church makes the victims as the criminals and vice-versa!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#19 Sep 1, 2012
Fidel Castro of Cuba was once an acolyte (sacristan0 of the Roman Catholic Church before entering college taking up law!!!

But in the many attempts to kill Castro by poisoning, the Roman Catholic Church was a willful participant!!!

In Indonesia, the Roman Catholic Church was involved in deposing Sukarno!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#20 Sep 4, 2012
amc wrote:
let the catholics go their way if thats their threat.
the schools and the country would benefit from their absence.
Amc,

The Catholic scam is ongoing!!! It has to stop!!! Here's some of their scams recorded in history:

"Miraculous" Medals

"A nun called Catherine Laboure one sunny day of June 1830, saw the Virgin Mary 'imside an oval frame.' Following the vision, the frame 'reversed itself,' and, lo and behold: upon its other side there appeared the hearts of Jesus and Mary. Thereupon the Virgin asked the practically-minded Catherine to have medals struck with those hearts on them. The incentive? Anyone who wore them would be specially protected by her. Who would be so mean as not to spend a few centimes or a few francs to secure such wonderful protection?

"And so it came to pass that, in June 1832, 1,500 such medals were struck. One or two religious orders, having perceived the vast financila profits to be made, became the sponsor of the miraculous medals. The Daughters of Mercy and the Lazarist Fathers set out for all they were worth to promote the cult.

"The result? Within the first four years, two and a half million medals had been sold in Paris alone and over eleven million in France... The business (for there is no other word for it) of the Miraculous Medal, as it is called, goes on to this day, not only in France, but wherever there are Roman Catholics." (pp. 113-114)

Reference:(Manhattan Avro. Vatican Billions, Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983.)

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Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Guam

#21 Sep 4, 2012
How 'Miracles' Enriched The Catholic Church

Miracles, Wonders, And Indulgences For Sale

"Since the ecclesiastical practice of commercializing miracles could be turned into a most gratifying source of money, it soon appeared that the more spectacular the miracle the more spectacular the profits to its promoters. Miracles thus became a kind of religious investment yielding a steady, if uneven, flow of revenue.

"During the Middle Ages and later, portents, wonders, and God's interventions were of a variety never seen or experienced before or since...We shall content ourselves with reporting some of the most characteristic; this will indicate not only their nature but also how they were turned into events by which the papacy profited through the collection of yet more revenues." (p. 76)

Reference:(Manhattan Avro. Vatican Billions, Chino, California: Chick Publications, 1983.)

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