Where did the 7 missing books of the Bible goe in the KJV?

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NitaM

United States

#1 Nov 21, 2007
My Catholic New American Bible has all the canonical books needed for my salvation. Why did the protestant religion subtract 7 books from the original canonical books written before the Reformation? In the Bible God clearly says, at the end of Revealations, not to add books to the original text or nor subtract any books from the Bible.
triplej

Tucson, AZ

#2 Nov 21, 2007
NitaM wrote:
My Catholic New American Bible has all the canonical books needed for my salvation. Why did the protestant religion subtract 7 books from the original canonical books written before the Reformation? In the Bible God clearly says, at the end of Revealations, not to add books to the original text or nor subtract any books from the Bible.
Bush stole them its his fault again
Skink

Kirkland, WA

#3 Nov 21, 2007
The all powerful, all knowing, God allowed those Protestants to pervert his divine word? I'm shocked.
Franck

Englewood, CO

#4 Nov 21, 2007
Skink wrote:
The all powerful, all knowing, God allowed those Protestants to pervert his divine word? I'm shocked.
Umm.. God had nothing to do with that!
Skink

Kirkland, WA

#5 Nov 21, 2007
So Protestants are more powerful than God? If he didn't allow it to happen, how did it happen?
Franck

Englewood, CO

#6 Nov 21, 2007
Skink wrote:
So Protestants are more powerful than God? If he didn't allow it to happen, how did it happen?
Why did God allow the Koran? The Book of Mormon? The Talmud?
Skink

Kirkland, WA

#7 Nov 21, 2007
Excellent questions. What is your answer to them?

You're making my point for me.
Franck

Englewood, CO

#8 Nov 21, 2007
Skink wrote:
Excellent questions. What is your answer to them?
You're making my point for me.
I am not making your point. I am disproving your claim that God allowed it. Who else would be responsible for deception, twisting and wresting the
Word of God? Hmmm????
Skink

Kirkland, WA

#9 Nov 21, 2007
Listing more examples of why my point is valid is not disproving it.
Franck

Englewood, CO

#10 Nov 21, 2007
Skink wrote:
Listing more examples of why my point is valid is not disproving it.
You don't have a valid point. You are part of the problem actually aren't you? Don't you follow the same Master?
Skink

Kirkland, WA

#11 Nov 21, 2007
Franck wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have a valid point. You are part of the problem actually aren't you? Don't you follow the same Master?
No I don't. That IS the point. Either an all powerful who controls everything allowed his word to be perverted or there is no all powerful man in the sky. You can't have it both ways. It's one or the other, and you seem to disagree with the first.

Being such a devotee of religion, you're not versed in things like logic and what constitutes a valid point. I don't expect you to get it any more than you expect me to understand why you drink Jesus' blood every week.
NitaM

United States

#12 Nov 21, 2007
It was that ole serpent satan, not God that told them to pervert it. Jeeze. Don't you guys remember that fact back in the Garden of Eden? Satan is usually the colpret and the author of confusion and chaos by twisting the minds of others to get his works to stir up trouble.
NitaM

United States

#13 Nov 21, 2007
Franck wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have a valid point. You are part of the problem actually aren't you? Don't you follow the same Master?
Hey, Franck, Greetings,
Peace,

Just want to wish you and your family a very Happy Thanksgiving (The Eucharist means Thanksgiving). Something else to Thank God for. Amen.

And I am praying for your son to arrive safely in the States to join you in this Holiday of Thanksgiving and peace.

You are a blessing here as always to these threads and I am proud to call you my Catholic friend and brother in Christ.

Peace,
Nita
PAD

Mason, KY

#14 Nov 21, 2007
Mistakes,mistakes!! The great Martin Luther and his prot followers decided in some meeting to retain the 66 Books in the Wod, and failed to allow the 7 called the apocrapha into the final rendition. Well you know it is as simple as this, We are all humans and we make mistakes don't we. I highly doubt the the council of Trent in 1592? did not make any errors in judgment, or policies, that in fact influenced all for time in milenia.Those books did not diappear from the earth, they are being read today by many outside of the Cathoic Church, and the richness found in them is being noted.Now do those 7 books have anything to do to promote the Roman Catholic doctrines on the Eucharist, Trinity, Virgin-birth,Mariology, praying to the saints, confession, the mass, than why aren't you quoting them, the verses in connection to these things.You keep mentioning that Prot have discarded the 7 books but no one quotes from them.I read the book of Wisdon, and some of the smaller books, and found stories similar to Esther, and so on.I will personally, since I have a NAB(Cath) version, read those books.Macabees is mentioned in the Jewish Talmud and by Jews who study the significance of some feasts.Those 7 books did not make or break the Christian faith,nor do they change the climate of truth that Christians have known for centuries.So what is the coonstant mention of these books in slamming Protestant Christianity? Quote some of the scriptures that would indeed chastize us for not habing those 7 in the Word. If the Prot as a whole broke the Lord's command in Revelation,, which by the way is taken a bit out of context. John was speaking about the prophecy of the book of revelation, should not be touched or changed. The plagues from that book would fall on those who alter the words of that prophesy. Read the words slowly.However I agree totally that the entire Bible being Spiritually discerned should nto be altered or changed by any human being.And furthermore if Martin Luther is the culprit that denied the 7 books entry in the full Word, than he is to face the Lord for his sin, but I believe it was more involved than that.Looking at the big Picture, the 7 books are in no way in this modern age being deprived from all Christians, as a matter of fact many non-CAth Christians quote from those 7 and use them in their studies. So what is the problem?Judge more the things of this day, what is going on today with us all in regards to Scripture,doctine,fellowship, and the Church as a whole.Non-Catholic Christians have issue with today's Catholic doctrines on Mariology, the Mass, the papal See, and the Roman Church's claim to be the only true Church of Jesus Christ.If those 7 books totally support your doctrines many of us have issue with than quote them.
Skink

Kirkland, WA

#15 Nov 21, 2007
NitaM wrote:
It was that ole serpent satan, not God that told them to pervert it. Jeeze. Don't you guys remember that fact back in the Garden of Eden? Satan is usually the colpret and the author of confusion and chaos by twisting the minds of others to get his works to stir up trouble.
God created Satan just like he created everything else.(Fallen Angel, remember) God allows Satan to exist and allows him to pervert his word. By the way, you are misusing the word 'fact.'
Franck

Englewood, CO

#16 Nov 21, 2007
NitaM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Franck, Greetings,
Peace,
Just want to wish you and your family a very Happy Thanksgiving (The Eucharist means Thanksgiving). Something else to Thank God for. Amen.
And I am praying for your son to arrive safely in the States to join you in this Holiday of Thanksgiving and peace.
You are a blessing here as always to these threads and I am proud to call you my Catholic friend and brother in Christ.
Peace,
Nita
God's blessings to you mon ami and my sister in Christ. Feeling is mutual mon cher.

My son has arrived safely, thank you for your prayers. I just got back from picking him up at the airport as a matter of fact. He's busy now taking a relaxing shower as he is very tired.

I will be signing off for the rest of the day and for the holiday season to enjoy family, friends and daily trips to Mass.

Praying you and your family will have a safe, peace filled holiday.

Same to all my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ on the forum.

Everyone else, I wish you a happy holiday too!
MInnesota Mary

Mankato, MN

#17 Nov 21, 2007
PAD wrote:
Mistakes,mistakes!! The great Martin Luther and his prot followers decided in some meeting to retain the 66 Books in the Wod, and failed to allow the 7 called the apocrapha into the final rendition. Well you know it is as simple as this, We are all humans and we make mistakes don't we. I highly doubt the the council of Trent in 1592? did not make any errors in judgment, or policies, that in fact influenced all for time in milenia.Those books did not diappear from the earth, they are being read today by many outside of the Cathoic Church, and the richness found in them is being noted.Now do those 7 books have anything to do to promote the Roman Catholic doctrines on the Eucharist, Trinity, Virgin-birth,Mariology, praying to the saints, confession, the mass, than why aren't you quoting them, the verses in connection to these things.You keep mentioning that Prot have discarded the 7 books but no one quotes from them.I read the book of Wisdon, and some of the smaller books, and found stories similar to Esther, and so on.I will personally, since I have a NAB(Cath) version, read those books.Macabees is mentioned in the Jewish Talmud and by Jews who study the significance of some feasts.Those 7 books did not make or break the Christian faith,nor do they change the climate of truth that Christians have known for centuries.So what is the coonstant mention of these books in slamming Protestant Christianity? Quote some of the scriptures that would indeed chastize us for not habing those 7 in the Word. If the Prot as a whole broke the Lord's command in Revelation,, which by the way is taken a bit out of context. John was speaking about the prophecy of the book of revelation, should not be touched or changed. The plagues from that book would fall on those who alter the words of that prophesy. Read the words slowly.However I agree totally that the entire Bible being Spiritually discerned should nto be altered or changed by any human being.And furthermore if Martin Luther is the culprit that denied the 7 books entry in the full Word, than he is to face the Lord for his sin, but I believe it was more involved than that.Looking at the big Picture, the 7 books are in no way in this modern age being deprived from all Christians, as a matter of fact many non-CAth Christians quote from those 7 and use them in their studies. So what is the problem?Judge more the things of this day, what is going on today with us all in regards to Scripture,doctine,fellowship, and the Church as a whole.Non-Catholic Christians have issue with today's Catholic doctrines on Mariology, the Mass, the papal See, and the Roman Church's claim to be the only true Church of Jesus Christ.If those 7 books totally support your doctrines many of us have issue with than quote them.
Would you please learn to write with paragraphs. No one wants to read your stuff because their eyes glaze over when they see it. MM
PAD

Mason, KY

#18 Nov 22, 2007
Thank you for the advice,MM will look into that. Your right about the script.

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