Let people rise up and protect others from the vicious!

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DDR

Hacienda Heights, CA

#1 Jan 1, 2013
Let everyone do their part to protect people from becoming victim of another gang rape, suicide bombers, and the like. Action must be taken to prevent these bloodthirsty fanatics from creating more destructions .
Hello

Flushing, NY

#2 Jan 1, 2013
It is the result of festering minds. They have no way to control their minds, so it rots. Then we wonder why things like this happen.

Wish they could all know how to meditate on metta and/or 5 precepts to train their minds.
DDR

Oceanside, CA

#3 Jan 1, 2013
Without dharma this ( Islam) is the kind of nonsense and evil people will follow. It just means more death and destruction on earth. It is terrible what was done to the people of Afgansistan. These people and their ancestors are victims of Islam.

“bungai terong”

Since: Mar 08

lantang senang belama

#4 Jan 2, 2013
DDR wrote:
Without dharma this ( Islam) is the kind of nonsense and evil people will follow. It just means more death and destruction on earth. It is terrible what was done to the people of Afgansistan. These people and their ancestors are victims of Islam.
THIS is an example of hate inciting speech. You've got no idea what you are talking about.

Buddhists, there are good ones and there are bad ones. Only the BUDDHA is the confirmed Perfect One, not Buddhists.

The same case with Islam and other non-Buddhist religions,there are the good ones and the bad ones. You are assuming collectively all those Muslims are bad.

When there was one Buddhist monk who assasinated the president,is it fair for us to point fingers to Sri lankan Sangha as a whole?
Hello

Flushing, NY

#5 Jan 2, 2013
Buddha said we must overcome/overpower all evil.

Let us remember the rapists in the recent incident in India were of Hindu background the shooters in the US in the horrific recent incidents were all of Christian background.

Unfortunately there are too many Muslims who can't control their violent tendencies, as was demonstrated in the post right here on this forum, where he threatened to kill Buddhists.

There are evil people who are Buddhists.

One should be observant of all evil all around us and promote THE ACTUAL PRACTICE of Buddha's Dharma, practicing mindfulness of the 5 basic precepts--which all of humanity depends on.

Let us work on making sure our own house is clean first and Buddhists meditate and hold the precepts.

That is the only way we can overpower evil.
Hello

Flushing, NY

#6 Jan 2, 2013
sampuna wrote:
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THIS is an example of hate inciting speech. You've got no idea what you are talking about.
Buddhists, there are good ones and there are bad ones. Only the BUDDHA is the confirmed Perfect One, not Buddhists.
The same case with Islam and other non-Buddhist religions,there are the good ones and the bad ones. You are assuming collectively all those Muslims are bad.
When there was one Buddhist monk who assasinated the president,is it fair for us to point fingers to Sri lankan Sangha as a whole?
No, there are too many bad Muslims:

Muslims Burn About 1,200 cars on New Year’s Eve in France
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Notice the Arabic Graffiti painted on one of the burned cars.


Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday that 1,193 vehicles were burned overnight around the country. Clashes between police and offenders in the New Year’s Eve took place in the Muslim majority districts in the city of Strasbourg and Mulhouse. About seven police officers were attacked New Years eve night.

Around 1,200 cars were burned by rioting Muslims on the New Year’s Eve in France, where the mass burning cars in the national holidays are kind of tradition among Muslim residents of the disadvantaged suburbs of immigrants.

In recent years, the celebration of the New Year and the Bastille Day (July 14) in France is often marked by mass burning cars as well. On the night of January 1, 2010, there were 1,137 thousand cars burned on the night of January 1, 2009 – 1,147 thousand were burned.

In the summer of 2010, the Interior Minister Brice Hortefeux made the decision to stop the practice of counting the demonstrators, as they claimed it only encourages the Muslim youths to commit such crimes . The current Minister of the Interior said that “the French people should know the truth.”

The American media has mostly not reported on these incidents, and when they do rarely mention their background or religion.
DDR

Pomona, CA

#7 Jan 2, 2013
sampuna wrote:
<quoted text>
THIS is an example of hate inciting speech. You've got no idea what you are talking about.
Buddhists, there are good ones and there are bad ones. Only the BUDDHA is the confirmed Perfect One, not Buddhists.
The same case with Islam and other non-Buddhist religions,there are the good ones and the bad ones. You are assuming collectively all those Muslims are bad.
When there was one Buddhist monk who assasinated the president,is it fair for us to point fingers to Sri lankan Sangha as a whole?
You again, I am not talking about one Muslim terrorists. I am talking about tens of thousands. If you or a Muslim that aren't bent on any of the above , then I'm not talking about you so relax.
DDR

Pomona, CA

#8 Jan 2, 2013
By the way, if you and other Muslims don't do anything about the bloodthirsty Muslims then others will. Why are you so active all of a sudden , but nothing is done or said when the innocent are being terrorized by the thousands.
DDR

Pomona, CA

#9 Jan 2, 2013
Whenever some says something about Muslims , suddenly they jump out say one one or two Muslims are bad but the rest are harmless.

Where did I say all ? I did not use the word all did I ?
DDR

San Diego, CA

#10 Jan 2, 2013
DDR wrote:
It is terrible what was done to the people of Afgansistan. These people and their ancestors are victims of Islam.
Did you not see the line above yours? Again you baselessly accused me. I specifically mentioned that there are Muslims that are captives of Islam. Their ancestors have been victims of Islam and they end up being forced to become Muslims and not allowed to choose . Again this right above your comment? What is your problem.

If you consider promoting security and safety for helpless victims incitement to hatred then that is your problem . Not mine! If you want to do nothing about the the destructive activities by many Muslims on other then that is your own choice. Do not tell me to follow you ! If I wanted to learn from you I would have asked , but I didn't so beat it.
DDR

San Diego, CA

#11 Jan 2, 2013
Great article:

" Marked for Death: Islam’s War against the West and Me recounts how an individual Dutchman became aware of an aggressive and authoritarian agenda in Islam as a faith-based political ideology. Through personal travels to the Middle East and the example of Muslim migrants who sought not to assimilate to Holland’s world-renowned tolerant culture, but rather despised and sought to dominate it, Wilders recognized the incompatibility of Islam’s canonical core with a free Western civilization. Wilders in turn personally experienced this incompatibility as his continuing condemnation of Islam brought him not the intellectual interchange due a debater in public forums, but rather personal and legal endangerment. Yet Wilders persevered and prevailed, thereby giving an example of how the free world can once again overcome a totalitarian threat."

"As Steyn writes in his forward, the Wilders “who emerges in the following pages is not the grunting thug of media demonology but a well-read, well-traveled, elegant, and perceptive analyst.” Wilders traveled and worked in Israel following his 1981 high school graduation, beginning a lifelong passion for this country that has led to at least annual visits throughout the years, over 50 trips in all. During this initial stay in Israel, Wilders also made his first visit to a majoritarian-Muslim country, Egypt.

Wilders was “overwhelmed by the kindness, friendliness, and helpfulness of its people.” Yet an “overwhelming sense of fear” under the dictatorship of Hosni Mubarak also possessed these people. Additionally, their capital “Cairo was poor and incredibly dirty,” making Wilders “amazed that such a place could be a neighbor of Israel, which was so clean.” One “big mistake” by Wilders here was buying a glass of water from a public water collector, leading to several days of severe diarrhea spent lying on a hostel floor for two dollars a day “in a crowded, stinking room.”

Wilders’ travels made him notice critical attitudinal differences between Muslim Arabs and Jews. Understandably in the context of Israel’s fight for survival amongst surrounding Arabs,“Israelis often had negative political opinions about Arabs.” Yet even Israelis who had lost loved ones to Arab terrorism “did not feel offended by the Arabs’ mere existence.” In Egypt, though, the “mention of Israel inevitably produced an outburst of vitriolic hatred.” This “wrath was not confined to Israeli soldiers or politicians or to Israelis who had done them personal harm,” but rather “was hatred against all Jews, even children.” It “was hard to find an Arab who spoke about Jews with anything but unconcealed contempt.”

"Wilders’ experience with Islam at home in Holland has been no less negative. In his chapter “Conquest,” Wilders writes that mass Muslim migration is turning many Dutch neighborhoods into “cities of the prophet.” This is in emulation of Islam’s prophet Muhammad and his original followers who sought refuge from Mecca in the largely Jewish settlement of Yathrib in the Arabian Peninsula in 622.“By foolishly welcoming Muhammad and Meccan followers into their town,” Wilders writes,“the Yathribians guaranteed their own extinction and the transformation of their land into Medina, the ‘City of the Prophet’, which it has remained ever since.” Wilders’ writes elsewhere that Muhammad’s emigration or hijra from Mecca to Medina, the orientation point of the Islamic calendar, is an “intrinsic part of Islamic culture” such that for some Muslim immigrants “Islam is meant to dominate, not to assimilate” in the immigrants’ new home. Thus, with the open encouragement of Muslim leaders like Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdo&#287;an,“immigration is Islam’s Trojan horse, paving the way for jihad” in another Islamic attempt “to conquer Europe."
DDR

San Diego, CA

#12 Jan 2, 2013
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/andrew-harrod/ge...

" Likewise, Europe faces the depredations of many Muslims who see the continent not as a new home to settle, but rather as a foreign society to be subjugated and plundered in accord with Islam’s history of raiding. Holland, for instance, has 40 areas known as “Vogelaar neighborhoods” after a list published in 2007 by the Dutch Minister of Integration and Housing, Ella Vogelaar. Here large Muslim communities exhibit high crime rates, particularly with respect to non-Muslim victims, vigilante enforcement of sharia norms such as those involving the “modesty” of females, and a susceptibility to riots provoked by any incident à la Rodney King. Even state authorities such as the police only enter these areas with the greatest precaution. France similarly has since 1996 751 internationally known zones urbaines sensibles (sensitive urban areas or ZUS), the scene of extensive rioting in 2005 with over 10,000 destroyed cars. Wilders describes the same phenomenon of non-Muslim “no-go” areas in Belgium, Germany, and the United Kingdom."

Drawing upon the analysis of many other scholars of Islam, Wilders discerns that “Islam is primarily a political ideology, not a religion.” In particular, unlike “authentic religions” Islam “does not teach the golden rule” but rather “institutionalizes inequality.” Wilders has come to the conclusion that while “many moderate Muslims” exist, the “political ideology of Islam is not moderate–it is a totalitarian cult with global ambitions.”


“People who reject Islam’s violent, intolerant, and misogynistic commandments may be moderates,” Wilders analyzes,“but they are not practicing ‘moderate Islam’–they are not practicing Islam at all.” Having traveled to Afghanistan, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Tunisia, and Turkey, Wilders recognizes the great “potential” of Muslim individuals. Yet Wilders concludes,“Islam is the problem–and we should not be afraid to say so,” thereby rejecting any attempt to “sugarcoat Islam…out of a misguided fear of offending its adherents.”
DDR

San Diego, CA

#13 Jan 2, 2013
Sampu, I wouldn't even bother bringing it up if it really is an isolated incident that only occur once in a decade by a certain mentally sick individual. Here we are talking about repeated occurrence of hundreds of Muslim gangrape targeting people of another religion in an effort to force the victims to convert. That is just scratching the surface.

I don't like to push my ideas on you if you don't welcome it, so stop pushing your idiosyncrasies on me. You are naieve and blind. Talking with you is a waste of time , like talking to a wall. It is a waste of energy. Who have time to spell it out in detail for you every time. If you don't get it, then go take a walk or something rather than harassing me with your idiosyncrasies .
DDR

San Diego, CA

#14 Jan 2, 2013
DDR wrote:
Let everyone do their part to protect people from becoming victim of another gang rape, suicide bombers, and the like. Action must be taken to prevent these bloodthirsty fanatics from creating more destructions .
Read my sentence quoted above again, you have a problem with motivating people to work together and protect each other from harm or what is it that you have a problem with ?
DDR

San Diego, CA

#15 Jan 2, 2013
Protecting and defending helpless victim can be a way doing good deeds. Now if you couldn't care less about these poor victims then walk on. But do not bother me.
DDR

San Diego, CA

#16 Jan 2, 2013
A great applause to all those putting in effort to address the recent gangrape cases. It is great to see the entire community along with the government cooperate to uphold justice and take the necessary steps or introducing policies which help to prevent future gangrapes.

Letting it slide or keeping a blind eye to it can lead to countless more people becoming victims to the point where the rape rates can raise to the top. Let us not wait for that to happen before taking action.

Congratulation to all those who care enough to lend a hand and a voice for the voiceless victims !
DDR

San Diego, CA

#17 Jan 2, 2013
Let us uphold justice , security and safety in our neighborhood and society at large!
Hello

Flushing, NY

#18 Jan 2, 2013
The first protection is practicing Dhamma. Always keep in mind the precepts and watch your thoughts. If evil, destroy it, if good cultivate it.
This is Buddhist meditation. Do good works daily.

Once established yourself, to encourage and establish others of the faith to be observant of the precepts and observe the Uposatha days.

This will ensure people are not corrupt and have integrity.
DDR

San Diego, CA

#19 Jan 2, 2013
If the practicing of the precepts increase violent tragedy like above might decrease. It is a long term solution like a medicine that you take within to allow it to effect / heal the wound on the surface after some time. This is a long term solution that can can take some time and is very necessary.

Additionally, we also need to address the wound from the outside / externally and immediately. For example , cleansing and dressing the wounds in the meantime to stop victims from bleeding to death. Likewise, we need immediate action to stop further victimization of helpless people. People in the community joining hearts and working together hand in hand to prevent more future brutality is fantastic !

We need to see more people looking after each other and less terrorists tragedies in the world. In the past decades we have not seen a decrease in terror activities, it means something urgently needs to be done from both within and without.

Do what you can ! The time is now!

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