Gender politics in the pagoda: the fe...

Gender politics in the pagoda: the female voices who call for change

There are 9 comments on the Pnompenh Post story from Nov 9, 2013, titled Gender politics in the pagoda: the female voices who call for change. In it, Pnompenh Post reports that:

When most people think of Buddhist nuns, Chhin Samboun - a wrinkled 81-year-old man wearing Tom Cruise sunglasses and a permanent grin - is probably not what comes to mind.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Pnompenh Post.

Hello

Westbury, NY

#1 Nov 11, 2013
A man can become a nun???! Interesting perspective on the gentle rise of the nun order of Buddhism.
King Rama

Jessup, MD

#2 Nov 11, 2013
Hello Hello,

May I ask why you are interested in Buddhism?

I think that there is a misinterpretation about a man becoming a nun because it is very common to have a man donned in white as female nuns do. In Cambodia, there are mainly two colors: yellow and white. If I recall correctly from a text somewhere, the Buddha picked the yellow color to designate that monks are separate from common householders in that they are holy and purified men.

The Bikkhus are in the highest order of the Sangha. And the purpose of the robe is nothing more than to cover the body from the sun, heat, cold, insects, and exposure of the nudity of the body.

Perhaps the man or the interpreter mistakenly translated the word "nun" when the man speaks?
Hello

Westbury, NY

#3 Nov 11, 2013
King Rama wrote:
Hello Hello,
May I ask why you are interested in Buddhism?
I think that there is a misinterpretation about a man becoming a nun because it is very common to have a man donned in white as female nuns do. In Cambodia, there are mainly two colors: yellow and white. If I recall correctly from a text somewhere, the Buddha picked the yellow color to designate that monks are separate from common householders in that they are holy and purified men.
The Bikkhus are in the highest order of the Sangha. And the purpose of the robe is nothing more than to cover the body from the sun, heat, cold, insects, and exposure of the nudity of the body.
Perhaps the man or the interpreter mistakenly translated the word "nun" when the man speaks?
Hi,

Because it is the only religion that is the truth and comes from the Dharma Chakra. All other religions have imperfect teachings which is why their covenants and precepts are broken. Only Buddha Dharma leads to Dharma Siddhis or perfection of Dharma because they have the true Law which is actually a cycle and not just a "list of good behaviors".

Why are you interested in Buddhism?
King Rama

Jessup, MD

#4 Nov 11, 2013
Interesting and thanks for your sincere input.

Why am I interested in Buddhism? Because it is the only religion/philosophy that can explain the root cause of suffering and shows the way how to end it through the realization of the ultimate truth via direct experience. The Four Noble Truths sum up everything that one needs to know.

I'm quite disenchanted by this endless cycle and I want to end it. I want to stop the wheel from continuously rolling. Hold it. Kill it. Let it go. But it's a long way :)
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi,
Because it is the only religion that is the truth and comes from the Dharma Chakra. All other religions have imperfect teachings which is why their covenants and precepts are broken. Only Buddha Dharma leads to Dharma Siddhis or perfection of Dharma because they have the true Law which is actually a cycle and not just a "list of good behaviors".
Why are you interested in Buddhism?
Hello

Westbury, NY

#5 Nov 11, 2013
King Rama wrote:
Interesting and thanks for your sincere input.
Why am I interested in Buddhism? Because it is the only religion/philosophy that can explain the root cause of suffering and shows the way how to end it through the realization of the ultimate truth via direct experience. The Four Noble Truths sum up everything that one needs to know.
I'm quite disenchanted by this endless cycle and I want to end it. I want to stop the wheel from continuously rolling. Hold it. Kill it. Let it go. But it's a long way :)
<quoted text>
How true, same here! Realizing we are in debt, this world is in debt...I have had enough as well!

Unfortunately due to heavy karmic debt I only see myself as a lay person, I was lucky enough to find Buddha Dharma coming from a Hindu family.

Thanks to Buddha I can practice to end lust as a lay person and try to reach the 3 level of purity to take rebirth amongst Buddhists only (yeah, my dream come true! no annoying nonBuddhists!) in the highest Suddhavasa Heavens where I can become an Arahant and become debt free at last!

Are you planning to get ordained?
King Rama

Jessup, MD

#6 Nov 11, 2013
How wonderful to hear that you find peace and joy in a conditional form (rupa-body).

There are two types of pleasures in this world, mundane pleasure and supra-mundane pleasure. The mundane pleasure (lust, money, robbing, raping, killing, stealing, lying, gambling, alcohol, drug, prostitution, denial, sex, etc) are all earthly pleasures that belong to the untrained persons and household life. But the supra-mundane pleasure is none of these and is only for the noble ones. The pleasure is everlasting. It is not dusty. If you can destroy lust, it is a great step that rare commoners can achieve. Congratulations to you!

During the Buddha's time, I read that all his disciples became Arahants, fully released and had gone beyond.

No, I don't plan to be ordained because I still have kiles (debt). But I hope to find a small place to live a simple life in the future, provided that I'm fortunate enough. My ideal place is forest. But there are no more forests in Cambodia now.

Do you plan to be ordained?

I visited Put Mondul in Cambodia and it is a nice place.
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>
How true, same here! Realizing we are in debt, this world is in debt...I have had enough as well!
Unfortunately due to heavy karmic debt I only see myself as a lay person, I was lucky enough to find Buddha Dharma coming from a Hindu family.
Thanks to Buddha I can practice to end lust as a lay person and try to reach the 3 level of purity to take rebirth amongst Buddhists only (yeah, my dream come true! no annoying nonBuddhists!) in the highest Suddhavasa Heavens where I can become an Arahant and become debt free at last!
Are you planning to get ordained?
Kulet Jonk

Fresno, CA

#7 Nov 11, 2013
He does look like Ta Pol Pot with that black glasses ..,
Hello

Westbury, NY

#8 Nov 11, 2013
King Rama wrote:
How wonderful to hear that you find peace and joy in a conditional form (rupa-body).
There are two types of pleasures in this world, mundane pleasure and supra-mundane pleasure. The mundane pleasure (lust, money, robbing, raping, killing, stealing, lying, gambling, alcohol, drug, prostitution, denial, sex, etc) are all earthly pleasures that belong to the untrained persons and household life. But the supra-mundane pleasure is none of these and is only for the noble ones. The pleasure is everlasting. It is not dusty. If you can destroy lust, it is a great step that rare commoners can achieve. Congratulations to you!
During the Buddha's time, I read that all his disciples became Arahants, fully released and had gone beyond.
No, I don't plan to be ordained because I still have kiles (debt). But I hope to find a small place to live a simple life in the future, provided that I'm fortunate enough. My ideal place is forest. But there are no more forests in Cambodia now.
Do you plan to be ordained?
I visited Put Mondul in Cambodia and it is a nice place.
<quoted text>
Cambodian! One of the blessed Dharma protector realms in this accursed world! These realms were formed by great Bodhisatvas to protect The Dharma in this turbulent and evil age.

We are all here in prison doing time.

Yes, I was hoping to gather some money and live in a forest, my dream was somewhere near the Himalayas but as a Buddhist I am happy even here in New York since I train my mind to be so. Breakthrough to the Dharma cannot be practiced if you are lacking in energy.

Do you practice to meditate everyday and observe the Uposaths days?
BEADYBUMPESTS CONTROLLERS

Maribyrnong, Australia

#9 Nov 12, 2013
i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

i

d

o

n

t

c

a

r

e

Haha

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Buddhism Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
New American Buddhist website (Oct '16) Aug 16 Hello 5
Buddha TV serial a Hit! (Oct '13) Aug 8 Niraj 7
News Inevitable Awakening ~ Dharmavidya Jul '17 True Christian wi... 3
Did Gautama Buddha see a mystical creature? Jun '17 TJa 2
Great Buddhism Podcast May '17 Brian 1
ti amo (Nov '11) Apr '17 1o1o1i 5,558
How To Practice Buddhism? Apr '17 flower9 1
More from around the web