Buddhists Know Islam: Mohammad the Ra...

Buddhists Know Islam: Mohammad the Rapist!

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Hello

New York, NY

#1 Jun 5, 2013
The only founder of a religion who was a pedophile AND a sick serial rapist:

The Prophet had the husband of the Jewess Raihana Bint Amr hacked to pieces before her very eyes, hours after he had murdered her father. No doubt this was the Prophet's perverted version of a wedding present, because after these atrocities he raped the mortified girl and tried to force her to convert to Islam.
Hello

New York, NY

#2 Jun 5, 2013
041 33/50:“O Prophet! We (Allah*) have made lawful (for sex*) to thee (it is not unusual that the god "permits" this towards the founder of a religion or a sect – it happens not infrequently*) thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers: and those to whom thy right hand possesses out of the spoils of war (which was quite a huge number*) whom Allah has assigned to thee; and the daughters of thy parental uncles and aunts, and the daughters of maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated (from Makkah (= Mecca*)) with thee; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes to wed her – this is only for thee, and not for the Believers (at large); we know that We have appointed for them (permitted sex*) as to their wives and those whom their right hands possess – in order that there should be no difficulty for thee.” As for slaves, a huge number passed through Muhammad’s hands – perhaps 2000 or more only from Khaibar. We do not know if and in case how many of them he personally raped, except Raihana bint Amr and Safiyya bint Huayay (which we know about because the first later became one of his concubines, and the other one of his wives), but the casual way and the minimal fuzz with which two rapes happened and made, makes it easy to think that they neither were the first, nor the only ones – to rape one's captives and slaves was (and formally still is) completely ok in Islam. That just was the way life was/is for women under Islam.
Vinamese

Las Vegas, NV

#3 Jun 5, 2013
Islam was not a true religion, it's a death cult. More than anything, Islam pulled many of the followers to hell.

“bungai terong”

Since: Mar 08

lantang senang belama

#4 Jun 5, 2013
he was married 'lawfully', with all the dowries paid for..so???

Buddhist kings had many wives too, that's the life of a puthujana. As long as puthujanas live along the lines of panca sila, there is no akusala involved.

hence,it can be said that the prophet is an average puthujana, with marriage & all the pleasures of life
Hello

New York, NY

#5 Jun 6, 2013
sampuna wrote:
he was married 'lawfully', with all the dowries paid for..so???
Buddhist kings had many wives too, that's the life of a puthujana. As long as puthujanas live along the lines of panca sila, there is no akusala involved.
hence,it can be said that the prophet is an average puthujana, with marriage & all the pleasures of life
Married lawfully? The first refused to convert and was made a concubine.

Mohammad condoned rape:
Muhammad actually encouraged the rape of nonmuslims others captured in battle. This hadith provides the context for the Qur’anic verse (4:24):

The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives.
Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse:(Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

You support a rapist who is the founder of a religion- Buddha is far from you indeed.
Hello

New York, NY

#6 Jun 6, 2013
There are several other episodes in which Muhammad is offered the clear opportunity to disavow raping women - yet he instead offers advice on how to proceed. In one case, his men were reluctant to devalue their new slaves for later resale by getting them pregnant. Muhammad was asked about coitus interruptus in particular:

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.”(Bukhari 34:432)
Hello

New York, NY

#7 Jun 6, 2013
Beyond the desperation of the 21st century apologist however, there is absolutely nothing in the historical text that supports this rosy revision of Muslim history. The women of the Banu Mustaliq were sold into slavery following their rape:

"We went out with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) on the expedition to the Bi'l-Mustaliq and took captive some excellent Arab women; and we desired them, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives,(but at the same time) we also desired ransom for them. So we decided to have sexual intercourse with them but by observing 'azl (Withdrawing the male sexual organ before emission of semen to avoid-conception). But we said: We are doing an act whereas Allah's Messenger is amongst us; why not ask him? So we asked Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: It does not matter" (Sahih Muslim 3371)

“bungai terong”

Since: Mar 08

lantang senang belama

#8 Jun 6, 2013
Hello wrote:
<quoted text>
Married lawfully? The first refused to convert and was made a concubine.
Mohammad condoned rape:
Muhammad actually encouraged the rape of nonmuslims others captured in battle. This hadith provides the context for the Qur’anic verse (4:24):
The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives.
Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse:(Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)
You support a rapist who is the founder of a religion- Buddha is far from you indeed.
While I can't confirm the truth or falsehood of your posted hadiths (coz i'm Buddhist and am more interested in the Dhamma than Islam), just beware there are two categories of hadiths :

1. the doubtful hadiths

2.the 'sahi' hadiths - confirmed true hadiths

and another interesting note : there is another group of Muslims going by the Quran only.

in quoting whatever texts, take the whole contextual situation, then judge. bits and pieces may be taken out of context.
xScope

Irvine, CA

#9 Jun 6, 2013
Defending Muhammad aren't you Sampu?
xScope

Irvine, CA

#10 Jun 6, 2013
While you claim to be a Buddhist, but your true colors are starting to show ! Common, admit it. You are an infiltrator in disguise attempting to distort the dhamma to confuse and mislead Buddhist .
xScope

Irvine, CA

#11 Jun 6, 2013
Why did Muhammad asked for a percentage of booty from his gang after raiding and robbing villages?

After every ambush and raids on villages, they presented him with a captured woman to rape. Why did he developed a taste for 6 / 9 years old ?

What's with condoning sex with animal and corpses , or raping freshly killed women?

What is going on with
xScope

Irvine, CA

#12 Jun 6, 2013
What's with Muhammad when he taught that the earth is flat?
xScope

Irvine, CA

#13 Jun 6, 2013
So if a 59 years old man with money to pay you and pay for a ceremony , you would let your 6 years old daughter marry the 59 years old man , allowing him to bathe with her, fondle, do what he likes with her, and that will be the only man for her for the rest of her life ( if you have a little daughter)?

Let's make 6 years old marry 60 years old man. Surely that is the type of Prince Charming they dreamt about marrying when they grow up ( in this case, right now). They would thank you for it. Let's find somebody lie Muhammad for them.
xScope

Irvine, CA

#14 Jun 6, 2013
This pedophile Muhammad sure is someone worth copying .

“bungai terong”

Since: Mar 08

lantang senang belama

#15 Jun 7, 2013
xScope wrote:
While you claim to be a Buddhist, but your true colors are starting to show ! Common, admit it. You are an infiltrator in disguise attempting to distort the dhamma to confuse and mislead Buddhist .
yeah yeah..go ahead, distort it :) you fear true Dhamma when it hits you straight in the face :)
xScope

Irvine, CA

#16 Jun 7, 2013
You are contradicting the sutta and dhamma. When it is shown right to your face over and over you still can't admit it or understand it and started to say that the sutta is fake without the ability to prove it , then beat around the bush . How about some new trick .
Hello

New York, NY

#17 Jun 7, 2013
sampuna wrote:
<quoted text>
While I can't confirm the truth or falsehood of your posted hadiths (coz i'm Buddhist and am more interested in the Dhamma than Islam), just beware there are two categories of hadiths :
1. the doubtful hadiths
2.the 'sahi' hadiths - confirmed true hadiths
and another interesting note : there is another group of Muslims going by the Quran only.
in quoting whatever texts, take the whole contextual situation, then judge. bits and pieces may be taken out of context.
Not much help since the Koran is not much better morally.

Qur’anic verse:(Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess."

Most likely those hadiths are true since Mo was poisoned by one of his Jewish captive wives. Takes real hate to poison someone.
xScope

Rancho Cucamonga, CA

#18 Jun 7, 2013
Let's just watch, some verses which reveal something which sampu does not want to admit then immediately it is fake.

“bungai terong”

Since: Mar 08

lantang senang belama

#19 Jun 9, 2013
xScope wrote:
Let's just watch, some verses which reveal something which sampu does not want to admit then immediately it is fake.
oh well, say whatever you please :)

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