why buddha rejected the authority of vedas?
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#1 Mar 13, 2014
one hindu said
because buddha wanted to start his own philosphy he rejected vedas..!
it is easier to discard and difficult to explain anything
can anyone prove him wrong?
#2 Mar 13, 2014
One should ask the Hindus,
1) You say your Hindu Vedas comes from the 4 heads of Brahma
2) did Shiva not curse this Brahma for lying about seeing the end of the fiery pillar?
3) thus your Vedas is a cursed Vedas since it comes from a cursed Brahma.
Buddha rejected this cursed Vedas of the Hindus.
However, Buddha shows us the True Vedas, uncursed:
Buddha distinguished the Tri-Vedas of the Brahmins (I.e today's Hindus) from the Tri-Vedas of the Aryans(Buddhists) in suttas such as the "Tevijja Sutta" as well as many other suttas.
"well brahmin, this description of a brahmin who has the threefold lore (Tevijja) is one thing. The description of him who has the threefold lore in the discipline of the Ariya is quite another thing." (Anguttara Nikaya:3:6 The Brahmins:Tikanna)
Buddha further describes the Buddhist Triveda discipline (Pali: ariyassa vinaye tevijjo) as being the following three knowledges:
1)Knowledge of past births across cycles of ages (contractions and expansions of the universe).
2)Knowledge of heavens and hells.
3)Knowledge of the destruction of defilements (asavas) which cause rebirth (obtainment of Nirvana).
#3 Mar 13, 2014
shall i give u link? will you prove him wrong?
#4 Mar 13, 2014
It really depends on what kind of Hindus they are. If they do not have reason and are nationalist Hindutvadis, it will be a waste of time. If they seem like sincere spiritual seekers, the time might be worth it.
Do they seem reasonable and open to discussion about the Hindu scriptural contradictions which also state that the Brahmin caste in Kaliyuga is cursed and will not know the Vedas (Varaha Purana)?
It is the Hindus who have rejected the highest Vedas, it is the Buddhists who preserve the highest or Ariya Vedas.
#5 Mar 14, 2014
he is on islam forum
who is allah?
is the thread
#6 Mar 14, 2014
his name is Truth Seeker
#7 Mar 14, 2014
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#10 Mar 18, 2014
There is not one single answer, there are many answers as to why Buddha rejected much of what the Veda taught. But generally he used the Veda as point of reference, to allow new notions about the sacred and the profane.
One such anwers was given by Dr. Ambedkar, the early 20th cent. thinker who lead the Untouchables out of the Hindu fold and into that of the Buddha. He said:
" You must take the stand that Buddha took. You must take the stand which Guru Nanak took. You must not only discard the Shastras, you must deny their authority, as did Buddha and Nanak. You must have courage to tell the Hindus, that what is wrong with them is their religion the religion which has produced in them this notion of the sacredness of Caste."
Guru Nanak was the foundig father of Sikhism. The Shastras are among the sacred scriptures of the Hindus.
Today we hesitate calling the Hindu religion wrong, just as we hesitate calling other religions wrong. But Ambedkar belonged to the oppressed people of India and it is more or less understandable that he used strong language, too strong for our times.
Basically Buddha taught us to be independent of vested religious practices or the authority of priests who mediate between the sacred and man. He wished his followers to stand firmly on their own feet, to think for themselves, and act for themselves.
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