Group says six Baha'is detained in Iran

May 20, 2008 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Manawatu Evening Standard

The Iranian authorities has detained six members of the Baha'i faith, an offshoot of Islam considered heretical by Iran's Shi'ite Muslim establishment, members of the religious group have said.

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Mtt

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Why is USA interested so much in a Bahaias community?
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Mtt wrote:
Why is USA interested so much in a Bahaias community?
christians be thinking baha'is are muslims, but they be worshipping baha'u'llah and not Allah. they don't say salaam, they be saying allah'u'abha. i don't be knowing too much about them.

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Mtt wrote:
Why is USA interested so much in a Bahaias community?
In Germany, we have many so-called "Interfaith Dialogues".

Shiite muslims in Hamburg discriminate even in Germany, and their Shura refused to include the Baha'i in the talks.

That's called "religious tolerance"?

Ts, ts;(
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did you know bahai is fastest growing religion in the world, oh yah, specially in african and south american countries.

Even though they get treated so badly in iran, still they are so strong in their believe.
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Islam be the fastest growing, baha'is are the smallest and christians are dying out!
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RICHARD X wrote:
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That's only because there are so many more ignorant people in the world than intelligent. It's easy to sucker the weak minded with the idea of male superiority. That's why there are so many convicts converted to islam in prison.
thank you, very well said. islam is for arab, it is adjusted for their life style.
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Religions are expired,
Humanity,
Wisdom,
Equality,
Justice, and
Peace

will prevail. We are all same. Lets get rid of all religions.
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In Germany, we have many so-called "Interfaith Dialogues".
Shiite muslims in Hamburg discriminate even in Germany, and their Shura refused to include the Baha'i in the talks.
That's called "religious tolerance"?
Ts, ts;(
the baha'is worship a prophet they say is the return of jesus called baha'u'llah so if you be a christian didnt your jesus say to beware of such a prophet??? baha'is have many crazy beliefs thats why we muslims don't believe in them or want them around. and for religious tolerance ask a baha'i about why they be shunning covenant breakers who are baha'is also!!!!!
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thank you, very well said. islam is for arab, it is adjusted for their life style.
lol @ sofia. sofia, please, be quiet when grown men are talking, k sweety? you just told a bold faced lie, and fo rwhat? to add a false sense of credibility to your Bahai religion? the Bahai religion isinfact I believe oone of teh slowedst growing religions, iSLAM IS THE world's adn America's FASTEST GROWING RELIGION in BOTH conversions and birth rates. AND it is no surprise thisis during an era durign which nearly everyone is educated and many in collegel, over 2000 scholar white american females convert to Islam a year. more I think.

Sofia, how can you even say such an ignorant and hostile thing about ISlam? when you follow the Bahai faith? do you know who ccreated the "Bahai" faith? not Baha'ullah"< not the "Bab", Bahaullah just stole the Bab's followers and basis and teachins and claimed himself to be teh Bab's predecessor, now teh Bab, he was a MUSLIM,s os if Islam is just for Arabs and no one else, then sofia, I want yo uto understand that for one ,that is very wrong ,Islam is for everyoen, I'm european been bor nadn raised Musli mlike milions of my fellow countrymen. the Bab, creator of teh entir bAHAI RELIGO NAAND/OR PHILOSOPHY, CONNSIDERED HIMSELF A Muslim, and considered himself the prophet Muhammad's grandson or something like that, the "gate" ,the Imam fro mthe prophet's family who was supposedly Muhama'ds predecessor(one of them) and family hwo was to retur. so Bahaism is an offshoot of Islam, their own holy writings are nearly identical t oISLAM EXCEPT FOR VERY LESS INFORMATIVE AND NOT AS INTELLECTUAL AND NOT AS INSPIRING ,AND NOT AS POWERFUL,A AND EFINATELY NOT AS ORIGINAL. DOESNT HAEV THE INSPIRATION BEHIND IT LIKE THE THE HOLY qUR'AN.

BUT MY POINT IS, SOFIA, THAT aRABS ONLY MAEK UP AROUDN 15% OF TH EmUSLIM POPULATIION, so how is Islam only for arabs, when only 15% of muslims are arab? the other 85% are white, black ,mexican, and other races. more than you know. and how i nthe world can you even say such bad thigns abotu Islam, when you aer require to accept Islamadn teh oly Qur'an as a revelation to EVERYONE, not jus tarabs? and to accept the prophet Muhammad as a messenger of Allah? the Bahai faith is no religion, its not truth, itsa thief's religion who claimed to be amusklim and stole Islamic uranic style and knowledge and followed the devil. Islam is fastest growign because it is truth, monotheism and justie, and equality, and piety, and that is Islam. none of that "human mangod and manifestation sungod and sacrificie.", no, just one God, no god but God our Creator, do good, pray ,worship Him 5 times every day, fast, be good, and we go to heaven(Pradice"< which is caleld Jannah.

peace be upon you and may Allah(SWT) open your eyes Sofia.-'scuse my language, lol, 3rd one.

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>The Arabs Parallel Universe - From An Arab/Muslim's Perspective

Rantings Of A Sandmonkey has a couple of interesting posts up that I'd go so far as to say offer important insight to non-Muslims on some prevalent opinions and the world view of many Arab/Muslims - from the advantage point of a moderate Arab/Muslim's perspective. In one of his previous posts a reader (Jeffrey) had left a comment describing a phenomenon that he had noticed over the past 3 years of viewing middle-eastern news, something he referred to as the A.P.U.,(Arab Parallel Universe).

Sandmonkey writes that the A.P.U. was created by Arabs to explain to themselves why they are in the rut they have been for so long, while also glorifying their personal victories against a world that is always conspiring against them. In the A.P.U., events that happen in our real universe also occur, except that the fashion of their occurrence and their outcome are very different then what we- in the real universe-know them to be. In referring to the commenter he writes:

It amazed me that he came to that conclusion, since it brilliantly summed up something that I have been trying to describe for years. I immediately told all my family and friends about it and upon their realization that we are all citizens of the A.P.U., they started giving me examples and evidence of that geographic phenomenon. In this post I will try to explain some of the rules of the A.P.U., and list examples of them for the sake of explaining to the rest of the world the rules of our very fun parallel Universe.

You can read all of his commentary at his site, but here is a summary and conclusion; the 7 political rules of the APU are:

1) Arabs never make mistakes, and they rarely lose wars.

2) The Zionists and the Americans are always to blame for everything that is wrong in the APU.

3) If there is any credit at all that can be contributed to Arabs in any way, they will take it.
4) Good leadership is inversely related to how US-friendly a leader is!

5) Any media that is not the official state-owned media is filled with Zionist, Jewish, American, Christian, imperialist, anti-arab influences and they LIE ALL THE TIME!

6) There is really no need for elections in the APU, because Presidents and rulers are presidents and rulers for life.

7) The only viable alternative candidate to the current leader or president is this current leader or president's son.<

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/158231.php

I just love Sandmonkey's description of A.P.U.(Arab Parallel Universum)!
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sofia wrote:
did you know bahai is fastest growing religion in the world, oh yah, specially in african and south american countries.
Even though they get treated so badly in iran, still they are so strong in their believe.
Did Bahaias kill Iranian people in this Mosque? Where they involved in it?
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Mtt wrote:
Why is USA interested so much in a Bahaias community?
To see if the bahai's are oppressed in Iran. This will be part of their reason to invade Iran just as the did with Iraq and the Kurds. The poor silly American government and positions they never learn do they lol!

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To see if the bahai's are oppressed in Iran. This will be part of their reason to invade Iran just as the did with Iraq and the Kurds. The poor silly American government and positions they never learn do they lol!
The reason couldnt possibly be to stop a lunatic with nuclear weapons from blowing up half the planet. That would be too logical for you.
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proud black wrote:
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the baha'is worship a prophet they say is the return of jesus called baha'u'llah so if you be a christian didnt your jesus say to beware of such a prophet??? baha'is have many crazy beliefs thats why we muslims don't believe in them or want them around. and for religious tolerance ask a baha'i about why they be shunning covenant breakers who are baha'is also!!!!!
Yes you got a point.

Whatever Bahollah wanted is one thing, his follower are totaly political , and cultiest.
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The reason couldnt possibly be to stop a lunatic with nuclear weapons from blowing up half the planet. That would be too logical for you.
Which are U talking about? The former "lunatic" in Iraq that had "weapons of mass Destruction" which by the way had none or the new "lunatic" in Iran with "weapons of mass destruction" or so they say?! Histories repetitive ain't it? Also yer pretty gullible in believing every word of the media. And may I remind U that the USA has enough of nuclear weapons to wipe out the Earth more than a few times?! Guess U didn't know...BTW yer last post was illogical to say the least.

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Syed wrote:
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Which are U talking about? The former "lunatic" in Iraq that had "weapons of mass Destruction" which by the way had none or the new "lunatic" in Iran with "weapons of mass destruction" or so they say?! Histories repetitive ain't it? Also yer pretty gullible in believing every word of the media. And may I remind U that the USA has enough of nuclear weapons to wipe out the Earth more than a few times?! Guess U didn't know...BTW yer last post was illogical to say the least.
Difference being, in America, the lunatics don't have their finger on the button.

I would also encourage you to write in proper English in "yer" posts if you want to be taken seriously. Just my friendly suggestion to "U".:)
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Should we have been interested in jews being persecuted in Nazi Germany? Should we be interested in Sudanese being persecuted by muslims in Darfur? Should we have been interested in Tutsis being persecuted by Hutus in Rwanda? Should we have been interested in blacks being persecuted in South Africa? If you are part of humanity you should be interested in any human being who is being persecuted.

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Should we have been interested in jews being persecuted in Nazi Germany? Should we be interested in Sudanese being persecuted by muslims in Darfur? Should we have been interested in Tutsis being persecuted by Hutus in Rwanda? Should we have been interested in blacks being persecuted in South Africa? If you are part of humanity you should be interested in any human being who is being persecuted.
Very well said, thank you Eris. It reminds me of something I heard once and can't quite remember where.

When an American asked why should the U.S.A. spend so much time, resources and money helping other countries. The answer he was given...

That's the price you pay for being rich and free.

A very small price for freedom I might add.
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Very well said, thank you Eris. It reminds me of something I heard once and can't quite remember where.
When an American asked why should the U.S.A. spend so much time, resources and money helping other countries. The answer he was given...
That's the price you pay for being rich and free.
A very small price for freedom I might add.
And Hence why the American economy no the world's economy is suffering...thanks alot lol!

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And Hence why the American economy no the world's economy is suffering...thanks alot lol!
What you don't understand is there are many of us who believe freedom is worth dying for not religion. Freedom at any cost.

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