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Atheist and Christian to 'solve the mystery of the universe' at Midtown Scholar event

There are 218 comments on the PennLive.com story from Dec 13, 2013, titled Atheist and Christian to 'solve the mystery of the universe' at Midtown Scholar event. In it, PennLive.com reports that:

Is it possible for a libertarian Christian and a liberal atheist to talk religion and politics and still remain civil? That's what Adam Murtagh of Mount Joy and Adam Lee of New York City are out to find out during their "Think! " debate and book signing at Midtown Scholar Bookstore in Harrisburg at 2 p.m. Dec. 14. Both have written books about ... (more)

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Since: Jun 12

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#142 Dec 23, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Haven't done LSD in 40 years. You poor kids. You can't even keep up with a 70 year geezer in your silly fundie Evangelical Atheist clique of irrational idiots who can't think logically for the life of them.
I don't have to trot out God or any of that stuff to crush your atheist pastie of a philosophy like the cockroach it is, always coming out when anyone turns the Light out. Logic itself utterly stomps your ideology to pieces.
LOGIC: The only Objective Philosophy of inquiry is Agnosticism which does follow the Scientific Method. Atheism does not because atheists have made up their minds about the subject matter of spiritual phenomena. Made up their minds using the data of other atheists and refusing to use the data of people who actually know what they're talking about because they've experienced it. No scientist goes to the people without experience of a subject to get an accurate assessment of that subject. That's just common sense but common sense is always lacking in fundamentalist true believers, so every day our Evangelical Atheist fundamentalist true believers plaster their irrational religious beliefs hoping that numbers will counter logic and thus they pack together, I'd say like wolves, but wolves have a dignity that Evangelical Atheists do not possess.
Trolls, it is because atheists stalk Christians on internet talkboards and Christians rarely bother to go to boring as hell atheist boards, the few there in comparison to the many religious ones that service the spiritual needs of human beings with fully functioning brains instead of ones lacking good access to both hemispheres and having the left brain thinking blot out bicameral awareness so necessary to see the world holistically. And to see God at work in the material world.
There's more devastation of Evangelical Atheism from just plain LOGIC that I could go into here but you know what? I just realized I keep breaking my own rule never to argue with fundamentalist true believers. It is a hopeless task to try to get them to see reason. They can't and so words just fly back and forth. I do hope somebody out there has caught my meaning about how logic itself can easily derail the primary "logic" of atheism. We theists don't really have to say a word about God to defeat atheism. Sorry, boys, but it truly is the END TIMES of ATHEISM...
I' could still put you all on my Catholic Church membership sign up forms I'm giving out for Christmas. Me 'n Francis, we're buds now in the Great Spirit of Christ. He in his guest cabin and driving his used car and me in my Celestial Kingdom often seen driving my electric blue Merkabahmobile with gravity redirect drive, able to hover and go anywhere needed on earth and of course zoom anywhere in the known Universe with positronic anti-matter Spirit drive capable of reaching any point in time and space in the known and unknown Universe in zero elapsed time. But I tire of casting my pearls before swine, certainly before turning atheist demons into swine then into wine, a newest testament miracle, to be served at appropriate times and places in old Port bottles with the T scratched out and a proud P put in.
Wall of bullshit and lies
LCNLin

United States

#143 Dec 23, 2013
"Wall of bullshit and lies "

Relax and have a great day
Jim

London, UK

#144 Dec 23, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
"Wall of bullshit and lies "
Relax and have a great day
A typical conversation with LCN the Creationist troll:

Atheist: "You posted a wall of bullsh*t"

Theist Troll: "Bwahahaha, why thank you! Jesus be with you!"

Theist Troll: "But Dawkins has no time for atheism...."

Atheist "Here we go again you idiot, Dawkins is an atheist."

Theist Troll "ERR, OK, OK, if god isn't real, then what is love? Free will or determinism"

Atheist "Why are you changing the subject?"

Thiest Troll " Haha! So you admit that Hitler was Atheist!"

Atheist "What the f*ck?"

Theist Troll "Why are you atheists always so angry?"

Atheist "You are dishonest, its astonishing."

Theist Troll "The pope is catholic!! Bwahaha Theists Win!!"

Atheist "Holy sh*t you f*cktard"

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#145 Dec 23, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
Wall of bullshit and lies
Except for the first sentence-- I can well believe this moron did and continue to does, very strong psychotropic drugs.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#146 Dec 23, 2013
Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
A typical conversation with LCN the Creationist troll:
Atheist: "You posted a wall of bullsh*t"
Theist Troll: "Bwahahaha, why thank you! Jesus be with you!"
Theist Troll: "But Dawkins has no time for atheism...."
Atheist "Here we go again you idiot, Dawkins is an atheist."
Theist Troll "ERR, OK, OK, if god isn't real, then what is love? Free will or determinism"
Atheist "Why are you changing the subject?"
Thiest Troll " Haha! So you admit that Hitler was Atheist!"
Atheist "What the f*ck?"
Theist Troll "Why are you atheists always so angry?"
Atheist "You are dishonest, its astonishing."
Theist Troll "The pope is catholic!! Bwahaha Theists Win!!"
Atheist "Holy sh*t you f*cktard"
LMAO!

“Reason's Greetings!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#147 Dec 23, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Haven't done LSD in 40 years. You poor kids. You can't even keep up with a 70 year geezer in your silly fundie Evangelical Atheist clique of irrational idiots who can't think logically for the life of them.
I don't have to trot out God or any of that stuff to crush your atheist pastie of a philosophy like the cockroach it is, always coming out when anyone turns the Light out. Logic itself utterly stomps your ideology to pieces.
LOGIC: The only Objective Philosophy of inquiry is Agnosticism which does follow the Scientific Method. Atheism does not because atheists have made up their minds about the subject matter of spiritual phenomena. Made up their minds using the data of other atheists and refusing to use the data of people who actually know what they're talking about because they've experienced it. No scientist goes to the people without experience of a subject to get an accurate assessment of that subject. That's just common sense but common sense is always lacking in fundamentalist true believers, so every day our Evangelical Atheist fundamentalist true believers plaster their irrational religious beliefs hoping that numbers will counter logic and thus they pack together, I'd say like wolves, but wolves have a dignity that Evangelical Atheists do not possess.
Trolls, it is because atheists stalk Christians on internet talkboards and Christians rarely bother to go to boring as hell atheist boards, the few there in comparison to the many religious ones that service the spiritual needs of human beings with fully functioning brains instead of ones lacking good access to both hemispheres and having the left brain thinking blot out bicameral awareness so necessary to see the world holistically. And to see God at work in the material world.
There's more devastation of Evangelical Atheism from just plain LOGIC that I could go into here but you know what? I just realized I keep breaking my own rule never to argue with fundamentalist true believers. It is a hopeless task to try to get them to see reason. They can't and so words just fly back and forth. I do hope somebody out there has caught my meaning about how logic itself can easily derail the primary "logic" of atheism. We theists don't really have to say a word about God to defeat atheism. Sorry, boys, but it truly is the END TIMES of ATHEISM...
I' could still put you all on my Catholic Church membership sign up forms I'm giving out for Christmas. Me 'n Francis, we're buds now in the Great Spirit of Christ. He in his guest cabin and driving his used car and me in my Celestial Kingdom often seen driving my electric blue Merkabahmobile with gravity redirect drive, able to hover and go anywhere needed on earth and of course zoom anywhere in the known Universe with positronic anti-matter Spirit drive capable of reaching any point in time and space in the known and unknown Universe in zero elapsed time. But I tire of casting my pearls before swine, certainly before turning atheist demons into swine then into wine, a newest testament miracle, to be served at appropriate times and places in old Port bottles with the T scratched out and a proud P put in.
"…the fall of man in paradise has always been followed by his expulsion." -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
(See Genesis Chapter 3 where humankind is cast from Eden for their sins. Hitler compares this to the need to exterminate the Jews for their sin against Christ.)

“Reason's Greetings!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#148 Dec 23, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Figure it out. Hint: it's code for another letter I can't put in lest it offend our kosher and halal friends..
“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”–Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#149 Dec 23, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Except for the first sentence-- I can well believe this moron did and continue to does, very strong psychotropic drugs.
The guy from the Elecrtric Kool-Aid Cult want to lecture us on reality. What a joke!

I've always said keep them talking, and they will eventually show their true colors. This guys is still seeing psychotropic induced colors.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#150 Dec 23, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The guy from the Elecrtric Kool-Aid Cult want to lecture us on reality. What a joke!
I've always said keep them talking, and they will eventually show their true colors. This guys is still seeing psychotropic induced colors.
Indeed he is.

LSD can linger in the system for years, or so they tell me.

One reason why I never tried the stuff, myself-- too dangerous..

Since: Aug 12

Location hidden

#151 Dec 23, 2013
I love this time of year...

Atheists offended by Christmas
Christians offended by 'Happy holidays'
And Muslims offended by fucxxng everything.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#152 Dec 23, 2013
swerty wrote:
I love this time of year...
Atheists offended by Christmas
Christians offended by 'Happy holidays'
And Muslims offended by fucxxng everything.
LMAO!

Indeed.
Jim

London, UK

#153 Dec 23, 2013
86 Christian Trolls watching the forum and downvoting atheist posts, because they can't win any arguments on christmas eve.

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#154 Dec 23, 2013
How much you make a year, oh Bob of such sanity and how many leaders of industry and organizations do you deal with in your work time if any which I suspect is zero because you're always here posting away like the OCD atheist maniac you are.

Let's compare work histories and impacts on society of one's work to see who's the moron and who's the idiot atheist without any more sense than to judge a person by internet forum postings. Way scientific there, Bob..way to go..no wonder you think the crap you do with your head up your behind as you move forward to type another lunatic observation from the none informed but egotistically compelled.

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#155 Dec 23, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Except for the first sentence-- I can well believe this moron did and continue to does, very strong psychotropic drugs.
I didn't read it
LCNLin

United States

#156 Dec 23, 2013
UK Christmas

'Twas the night before Christmas and all through the house, people were eating baked ham, burritos, fish pie and tikka masala. This is Britain: where Christmas dinner is all mapped out, but Christmas Eve is a culinary free-for-all. I have relatives for whom 24 December isn't complete without steak and chips. Others insist on Indian takeaway, while for years my friends and I celebrated at a Tex-Mex restaurant (because nothing says Christmas like a chimichanga).

In many European countries the Eve is commemorated with a gut-busting feast. Yet in Britain, the 24th lacks a universal tradition, leaving us free to create our own rituals. There are recurring themes, but is there a reason why we don't we have a national Christmas Eve dish on a par with Christmas dinner?

Food historian Catherine Brown says it's because "festive eating habits in the past have often been dictated by religion. When Christmas was banned in Scotland after the Reformation, Presbyterian ministers visited their flock to check they had no festive foods in the house. Christmas wasn't a public holiday in Scotland until 1958, so there's no long-established history of festive eating on Christmas Eve in either my parents' or grandparents' memories. In England, the Puritans also banned the celebration of Christ's Mass. But, unlike Scotland, Christmas traditions revived after the monarchy was restored."

One of the more popular Christmas Eve dishes is fish, particularly fish pie. "This is a Catholic tradition related to the Feast of the Seven Fishes. Some Catholics still include seven different fishes in the meal – not difficult if you're making a pie," says Brown. Christmas Eve was traditionally part of the advent fast period, and during this time fish was eaten widely, a tradition that carried on even after the Reformation: "Fish days were regularly promulgated by monarchs including the Stuarts, to stimulate the British fish trade," says food historian Annie Gray.

It's hard to know how many Brits, Catholic or otherwise, still eat fish on Christmas Eve because when it comes to Christmas we are a myopic bunch – what's traditional in our own house becomes the only tradition. But food writer Felicity Cloake, for one, is a fan. "We always, always have fish: either pie or a big piece of salmon. It's nice to give yourself a break before the meatfest to come."

Ham is also popular. "It's an old tradition linked to the Martinmas slaughter of the animals people couldn't afford to feed during the winter. The best joints - the hams - were eaten at the feasting dinner," says Brown. For a contemporary take, the goddess Lawson suggests ginger-glazed ham for Christmas Eve in her recipe book Nigella Christmas.
LCNLin

United States

#157 Dec 23, 2013
United Kingdom Christmas food ---Part two ---

Christmas Eve is also a time for dishes that reflect our diverse backgrounds. Spiced beef is on the menu at Irish blogger and author Niamh Shields's house: "It's like corned beef but with spices and is a grand Cork Christmas tradition. It goes back to the spice trade. Traders from Asia would travel to Cork and trade spices for butter."

Few go to town on Christmas Eve feasts like the Italians. "Our family has always prepared a multi-course fish-based dinner for about 24 people," says chef Massimo Bottura. In the Caldesi household, chefs Katie and Giancarlo have created an Anglo-Italian ritual: leaving out port and panettone for St Nick. Meanwhile, like the Catholics, half-Italian cook Laura Santtini nods to her roots with a fish pie: "Fish is meant to bring good luck for the coming year, so I make it with a big pinch of Italian guilt for fear of breaking with tradition."

Like the Italians, Scandinavians also hold their main feast on the 24th. The Swedes serve sumptuous julbord. "For Christmas Eve dinner, we have a table laden with pickles and preserves. Pickled herring is the most important component, then boiled eggs and Löjrom, says Swedish chef Niklas Ekstedt. Half-Danish chef Anna Hansen still celebrates with a feast consisting of "braised red cabbage, brown potatoes (baby potatoes blanched and then finished in butter and sugar), boiled new potatoes, roast pork and gravy."

Gravlax is also popular among non-Scandis. The Caldesis pair it with champagne, while Australian food writer Bill Granger says: "When I was growing up, we didn't really have any Christmas Eve traditions, but as soon as I had my children, we felt like we needed our own. I get some gravlax to make smoked-salmon blinis and do a couple of big salads."

So perhaps our lack of Christmas Eve culinary tradition doesn't matter – it just leaves us free to cherry-pick the best continental rituals and make up our own. Start this season, and in a few years it'll seem as much a part of the day as sobbing over The Snowman or putting out carrots for Rudolph. Whatever you eat on Christmas Eve, have a merry one.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#158 Dec 23, 2013
biomystic wrote:
How much you make a year, oh Bob of such sanity and how many leaders of industry and organizations do you deal with in your work time if any which I suspect is zero because you're always here posting away like the OCD atheist maniac you are.
Let's compare work histories and impacts on society of one's work to see who's the moron and who's the idiot atheist without any more sense than to judge a person by internet forum postings. Way scientific there, Bob..way to go..no wonder you think the crap you do with your head up your behind as you move forward to type another lunatic observation from the none informed but egotistically compelled.
Holiday, doofus.

And I stand by my statement: you exhibit severe brain damage, likely due to excessive use of psychotropic (and illicit) drug use.

You are most amusing.

And kinda pathetic, too.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#159 Dec 23, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't read it
Me neither-- but the first sentence caught my eye-- his admission of illicit drug use.

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#160 Dec 23, 2013
biomystic wrote:
How much you make a year, oh Bob of such sanity and how many leaders of industry and organizations do you deal with in your work time if any which I suspect is zero because you're always here posting away like the OCD atheist maniac you are.
Let's compare work histories and impacts on society of one's work to see who's the moron and who's the idiot atheist without any more sense than to judge a person by internet forum postings. Way scientific there, Bob..way to go..no wonder you think the crap you do with your head up your behind as you move forward to type another lunatic observation from the none informed but egotistically compelled.
“The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.”–Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf
(This quote is very interesting for it disperses the idea that Hitler raged war due to being an Aryan supremacist. He states quite clearly that he has a problem with Jews for their belief not race. That is why many German Jews died in WW2 regardless of their Aryan nationality.)

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#161 Dec 23, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Me neither-- but the first sentence caught my eye-- his admission of illicit drug use.
I only caught that first sentence and this part where he thinks he's being stalked and displays his paranoia, "Trolls, it is because atheists stalk Christians on internet talkboards and Christians rarely bother to go to boring as hell atheist boards,

Obviously he either hasn't been here on the Atheism Forum very long, or he's just lying again.

Furthermore, he's come here to this Forum to disparage Atheists on this thread. We did not stalk him. In fact I didn't know about his Electric Kool-Aid Cult until I googled his moniker.

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