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Atheist and Christian to 'solve the mystery of the universe' at Midtown Scholar event

There are 218 comments on the PennLive.com story from Dec 13, 2013, titled Atheist and Christian to 'solve the mystery of the universe' at Midtown Scholar event. In it, PennLive.com reports that:

Is it possible for a libertarian Christian and a liberal atheist to talk religion and politics and still remain civil? That's what Adam Murtagh of Mount Joy and Adam Lee of New York City are out to find out during their "Think! " debate and book signing at Midtown Scholar Bookstore in Harrisburg at 2 p.m. Dec. 14. Both have written books about ... (more)

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#102 Dec 20, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Empty words, Bob and Chrysler product. You can't make any case stand making Hitler into a Christian as Wikipedia explains to anyone without the Evangelical Atheist blind faith fundamentalist in denial mindset that is truly a fundamentalist belief system because the believers in atheist belief, that there is no spiritual phenomena and religionists are all liars or deceived, behave exactly like the fundamentalist believers in God. Both groups deny any evidence exists countering their beliefs. Just as you're doing here. Denying the Wikipedia counter evidence for your belief, not fact at all but belief, in Jewish and atheist attempts to make Hitler a Christian when his whole life behavior contradicted everything Christianity stands for. This is just atheists trying to create a false history so as to blame Christians on an atheist madman.
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#103 Dec 20, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
wikipedia pfff *coffee on screen* haha ...
Indeed.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#104 Dec 20, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
christards trying to change history because a christarded madman did something awful
Ever has it been thus.

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#105 Dec 21, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
christards trying to change history because a christarded madman did something awful
You are exactly correct. Here is the evilibible.com website's very first paragraph.

Hitler Was a Christian

The Holocaust was caused by Christian fundamentalism:

History is currently being distorted by the millions of Christians who lie to have us believe that the Holocaust was not a Christian deed. Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today’s Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian in order to place his misdeeds on those with out Jesus. However, from the earliest formation of the Nazi party and throughout the period of conquest and growth, Hitler expressed his Christian support to the German citizenry and soldiers. Those who would make Hitler an atheist should turn their eyes to history books before they address their pews and chat rooms.

http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian...

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#106 Dec 21, 2013
carchar king, I think you stuck a stick in the nest of vipers and they are hopping mad! They are exposed now as lunatics, out to lunch as bad as if not several degrees worse than your Alabama grade school drop out born again AA street preacher. Just look at the parade of evangelical atheists in utter denial of historical facts that contradict their Fundamentalist Atheist Belief, this one, that Hitler was a Christian, when the record shows he was a Christian deceiver big time, like George Bush but much better at it. Neither one practiced Christianity although George made sure his church image was secure. I wonder if he goes to church as much now now that he's out of the spotlight. But while in office, he greatly deceived American Christians as he broke and rebroke Jesus' commandment against war. We who are real Christians following the teachings of Jesus Christ are always against war. The world only knows of Pauline Christians who follow Paul's teachings and not Jesus'. The communitarian Christians, they follow Jesus' teachings and they never go to war.

Btw, these are the End Times of Atheism..your philosophy is doomed now as the fundamentalist nature inherent in the atheist ideology as we see so amply demonstrated every day by atheist fanatics, is exposed for what it always was: Evangelical Atheism. Be door to door next..
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#107 Dec 21, 2013
I don't think Hitler was a Christian at heart, but then I don't think most Christians are. Even my RC parish priest 40 years ago didn't seriously believe that Christ arose from the dead, or that there were 'three persons in one god'. He tried to argue that though religion is man-made and the Bible was written by men, the Bible is allegorical. That doesn't make sense either, but at least it isn't stark raving mad like some superstitious USAmericans who still talk as if the Bible came from a god of some sort who made man in "His" image.

From:
http://www.skeptical-science.com/atheism/inte...
Will religion completely vanish (in the USA)?
Not vanish exactly, but fade away until clerics take their proper place in the history books beside witches, medicine men and soothsayers.

Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology
Truth will out and denying it won't help anymore than arguing that Hitler was a Christian or an atheist.(Actually, he was probably whatever suited him at the time and religion/atheism was neither his focus nor motivation).
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#108 Dec 21, 2013
This poll appears to prove how crazy and superstitious USAmerican Christians are, e.g. it suggests that 75% of Christians say they 'strongly agree' that "Jesus was literally born of a virgin"
http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/surve...

(But don't laugh, it offends some Christians :-)

Alternatively, Jonny Eve offers a common-sense view....
http://www.atheismuk.com/2012/03/31/atheism/y...

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#109 Dec 21, 2013
biomystic wrote:
carchar king, I think you stuck a stick in the nest of vipers and they are hopping mad! They are exposed now as lunatics, out to lunch as bad as if not several degrees worse than your Alabama grade school drop out born again AA street preacher. Just look at the parade of evangelical atheists in utter denial of historical facts that contradict their Fundamentalist Atheist Belief, this one, that Hitler was a Christian, when the record shows he was a Christian deceiver big time, like George Bush but much better at it. Neither one practiced Christianity although George made sure his church image was secure. I wonder if he goes to church as much now now that he's out of the spotlight. But while in office, he greatly deceived American Christians as he broke and rebroke Jesus' commandment against war. We who are real Christians following the teachings of Jesus Christ are always against war. The world only knows of Pauline Christians who follow Paul's teachings and not Jesus'. The communitarian Christians, they follow Jesus' teachings and they never go to war.
Btw, these are the End Times of Atheism..your philosophy is doomed now as the fundamentalist nature inherent in the atheist ideology as we see so amply demonstrated every day by atheist fanatics, is exposed for what it always was: Evangelical Atheism. Be door to door next..
The Angry Atheist Routine - Yawn!

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Pale Blue Dot

#110 Dec 21, 2013
A Fascinating New Poll Shows That Americans Are Losing Faith In God

http://www.businessinsider.com/new-harris-pol...

only 74% of Americans believe in God, an 8% decline since 2009.

In another decline, only 54% of Americans are now "absolutely certain" in God's existence, a 12% decrease over the last decade.

Number of people that believe in Creationism and UFO's TIED at 36%

http://www.harrisinteractive.com/NewsRoom/Har...

The Decline in Religiosity in America continues.

"The Trend is your friend".

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#111 Dec 21, 2013
biomystic wrote:
carchar king, I think you stuck a stick in the nest of vipers and they are hopping mad! They are exposed now as lunatics, out to lunch as bad as if not several degrees worse than your Alabama grade school drop out born again AA street preacher. Just look at the parade of evangelical atheists in utter denial of historical facts that contradict their Fundamentalist Atheist Belief, this one, that Hitler was a Christian, when the record shows he was a Christian deceiver big time, like George Bush but much better at it. Neither one practiced Christianity although George made sure his church image was secure. I wonder if he goes to church as much now now that he's out of the spotlight. But while in office, he greatly deceived American Christians as he broke and rebroke Jesus' commandment against war. We who are real Christians following the teachings of Jesus Christ are always against war. The world only knows of Pauline Christians who follow Paul's teachings and not Jesus'. The communitarian Christians, they follow Jesus' teachings and they never go to war.
Btw, these are the End Times of Atheism..your philosophy is doomed now as the fundamentalist nature inherent in the atheist ideology as we see so amply demonstrated every day by atheist fanatics, is exposed for what it always was: Evangelical Atheism. Be door to door next..
Another Cultist coming on the Atheism Forum to tell Non-believers his way is the only way without any proof of anything.. Haven't we heard that countless times before?

Biomystical Christianity

http://biomystic.org/bc.htm

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#112 Dec 21, 2013
EdSed wrote:
I don't think Hitler was a Christian at heart, but then I don't think most Christians are. Even my RC parish priest 40 years ago didn't seriously believe that Christ arose from the dead, or that there were 'three persons in one god'. He tried to argue that though religion is man-made and the Bible was written by men, the Bible is allegorical. That doesn't make sense either, but at least it isn't stark raving mad like some superstitious USAmericans who still talk as if the Bible came from a god of some sort who made man in "His" image.
From:
http://www.skeptical-science.com/atheism/inte...
Will religion completely vanish (in the USA)?
Not vanish exactly, but fade away until clerics take their proper place in the history books beside witches, medicine men and soothsayers.
Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology
Truth will out and denying it won't help anymore than arguing that Hitler was a Christian or an atheist.(Actually, he was probably whatever suited him at the time and religion/atheism was neither his focus nor motivation).
I find that there are many such preachers/priests as you describe: they think the bible is, at best, a sort of diary/fables/personal philosophies of people who lived a long time ago.

Which makes me wonder why they even bother with all the silly nonsense at all?

If they don't think anything in the bible is remotely factual? Why bother with it?

I suppose it could simply be that they don't have a clue what to do with their lives now, after having spent so much of it in preparation for preaching.

Kinda sad, really.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#113 Dec 21, 2013
EdSed wrote:
This poll appears to prove how crazy and superstitious USAmerican Christians are, e.g. it suggests that 75% of Christians say they 'strongly agree' that "Jesus was literally born of a virgin"
http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/surve...
(But don't laugh, it offends some Christians :-)
Alternatively, Jonny Eve offers a common-sense view....
http://www.atheismuk.com/2012/03/31/atheism/y...
Indeed. A wild tale of myth, if ever there was one told.

About as believable as flying reindeer, in fact. Or egg-laying bunnies for that matter.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#114 Dec 21, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Angry Atheist Routine - Yawn!
Did you even read that wall-o-words?

I didn't bother this time-- lots of bubble-gum "philosophy" and zero substance.

Not unlike sugar-free chewing gum.... what's the point? You can't swallow it. It has zero nutritional value. You don't even get a mild sugar rush. Just endless, and meaningless chewing....

... <heh>

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#115 Dec 21, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
A Fascinating New Poll Shows That Americans Are Losing Faith In God
http://www.businessinsider.com/new-harris-pol...
only 74% of Americans believe in God, an 8% decline since 2009.
In another decline, only 54% of Americans are now "absolutely certain" in God's existence, a 12% decrease over the last decade.
Number of people that believe in Creationism and UFO's TIED at 36%
http://www.harrisinteractive.com/NewsRoom/Har...
The Decline in Religiosity in America continues.
"The Trend is your friend".
I find it quite interesting, that UFO sightings have decreased dramatically with the rise in cheap and ubiquitous cameras.

In the past? I would guess that less than 1 person in 50, always had a camera with them at all times.

These days? I would say that better than 6 of 10 people have a camera with them everywhere they go, in the form of a camera-phone.

And what do you know?

The number of reported UFO's dropped significantly.

Whenever there are **objective** methods of capturing what really happens?

The number of bullsh7t "answers" seem to diminish dramatically.

Imagine how much of the Jesus Legend would be re-written, had nearly everyone had a camera with them.....

.... LMAO!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#116 Dec 21, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Another Cultist coming on the Atheism Forum to tell Non-believers his way is the only way without any proof of anything.. Haven't we heard that countless times before?
Biomystical Christianity
http://biomystic.org/bc.htm
Oh dear.

The author of that website has taken some **seriously** strong psychotropic drugs.

Just the color choices alone, says much about what's left of the mind behind it.... and none of it is good.

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#117 Dec 21, 2013
Bob, your Evangelical Atheist opinions of mine or any theist's religious work are about as valuable as those of any Muslim's and of the same type of religious warfare mindset. You should co-council with Muslims and some Pentecostals on how to deal with the growing number of people identifying you atheists as fellow fundies with the religious boys and girls, both of you massively in denial of facts, like Wikipedia exposed about Hitler that counter atheist religious warfare propaganda. We see the compulsive need to deny the facts with dozens of more atheist posts trying desperately to cover over the truth.

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#118 Dec 21, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Bob, your Evangelical Atheist opinions of mine or any theist's religious work are about as valuable as those of any Muslim's and of the same type of religious warfare mindset. You should co-council with Muslims and some Pentecostals on how to deal with the growing number of people identifying you atheists as fellow fundies with the religious boys and girls, both of you massively in denial of facts, like Wikipedia exposed about Hitler that counter atheist religious warfare propaganda. We see the compulsive need to deny the facts with dozens of more atheist posts trying desperately to cover over the truth.
Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack the Jews and uphold his anti-Semitism:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#119 Dec 21, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Bob, your....
Aaaaand I quit reading at this point.

I do not need the fevered delusional opinion of a psychotic who is tripping on some bad mushrooms or LSD.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#120 Dec 21, 2013
MrDesoto1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Here Hitler uses the Bible and his Christianity in order to attack the Jews and uphold his anti-Semitism:
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow my self to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows . For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." –Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)
Yep.

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#121 Dec 21, 2013
Wikipedia, evangelical atheists in denial. Wikipedia. You're attempts to smear Christians with Hitler are empty of historical fact of Hitler's private views of Christianity. Wikipedia and we told you fundie atheists that Hitler's public speeches were just like George W. Bush's, said to gull Christians into doings extremely un-Christian acts of violence. You play AIPAC style character assassination games with historical truth and now you're caught out in your lies.

But as we all know, I can post historical truth up the yin yang in response to your atheist propaganda, and none of any factual information gets past the Evangelical Atheist Denial of anything contradicting the Dogma. So you atheists, being driven by religious fervor to evangelize your atheists beliefs are compelled to post against critics and thus you flood the comments everyday with atheist bullshite trying to smother posts containing the truth about atheists fundamentalist neurosis and mental disability, victims of poor access to their right brain hemispheres where holistic consciousness and spiritual cognition takes place.

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