Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

Feb 13, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Q-Notes

President Barack Obama with Rev. Billy Graham at his house in Montreat, N.C., April 25, 2010.

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barry

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#102
Feb 22, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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His horrid programs of lies are supported by government tax credits.
That's him, using my taxes, to lie.
Without the tax support, none of your evil religion would have survived to the modern day.
your clueless. you don't even know what a tax credit is.
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#103
Feb 22, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Riiiight... like a document from a liar like Graham is ... honest.
Riiiiight.
it's a document required by law and submitted each year to the irs. so if it's a lie which years did the irs have a problem with?

seems to me that hatred clouds your perspective.
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#104
Feb 22, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Why do you lie? Oh! Lying is your only tool.
Silly boy-- none of the gospels were written before 60CE. Most were 90-120CE.
This is common scholarship of modern bible scholars.
I'm sorry your education is so ... lacking.
ok, once again, this is what i was and am responding to;
"Not a single document, letter, diary, book-of-whatever, was written about your Jewsus during his life.
Not one. All--without exception-- were written 60, 90, 100's of years AFTER."
now you just claimed that none of the gospels was written before the year 60 and most were written 90...
so my simple question to you is this;
when did Christ supposedly live and die?
your math is very fuzzy.
oh and btw, they all were written by contemporaries of Christ.
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#105
Feb 22, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
None of these people met Jesus. You fail. The Josephus line is a Christian forgery that doesn't appear in his earlier work. Josephus also proves Nazareth did not exist at that time. Tacitus would never call Jesus the Christ an that never shows up until the 15th century version of his writing!
The rest of your jokes at best are repeating what Christians told them, nothing more. This is not proof.
Btw Josephus and Tacitus wrote about Hercules so are you accepting that he existed as well?
Wait are you actually so stupid as to include unapproved gospels of Jesus as proof he existed?
Lmfao!!!
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if you are going to bring up the idea that they wrote about hercules, perhaps you can print exactly what they wrote about him so that all can see that they never gave credence to the existence of hercules but simply were quoting what someone else claimed about hercules.
now maybe i'm wrong and you can correct my understanding it.
or perhaps you are just blindly repeating what some nonbeliever desperately throws out as evidence.

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Feb 22, 2013
 
Stop braying like a jackass. Even Christian scholars admit nothing was written about Jesus for at least 50 years after his death.
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<quoted text>ok, once again, this is what i was and am responding to;
"Not a single document, letter, diary, book-of-whatever, was written about your Jewsus during his life.
Not one. All--without exception-- were written 60, 90, 100's of years AFTER."
now you just claimed that none of the gospels was written before the year 60 and most were written 90...
so my simple question to you is this;
when did Christ supposedly live and die?
your math is very fuzzy.
oh and btw, they all were written by contemporaries of Christ.
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#107
Feb 22, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Even you beloved Christian scholars admit nothing was written about Jesus until decades after he was said to die.
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so? and how can you be so sure? rome leveled jeruselem in the year 70. destroyed everything in it. a lot of documentation is missing from that time.
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#108
Feb 22, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Few people would have given him dime-one, if they did not get tax credits from the government.
He'd have had to get... a REAL job-- something he is not qualified to do.
But more importantly, he'd never have made it out of the backwoods that spawned him.
For the betterment of everyone involved.
again you show your ignorance. you have no idea what a tax credit is.
no one that i can tell ever received a tax credit for donating to the bg association.

ignorance does spawn hatred.
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Feb 22, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I figured you'd mention those.
Sorry to burst your bubble, moron, but neither of these people were alive during the "blessed" events.
They were writing ... GOSSIP once again.
Silly boy.
"Sorry to burst your bubble, moron,"

real classy.
can't convince or prove your point so you need to resort to elementary school name calling.
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Feb 22, 2013
 
Givemeliberty wrote:
Why won't he give all his money to charity? Or most of it, he has over 25 million in cash, so donate 20million to charity billy!
his organization runs on a 15% budget. 15% of all donations are spent on administration and fundraising. that leaves about 85% going back into actual charitable efforts. i doubt that there are many organizations that you give to who could claim the same.

now the bigger question is are you and bob related? you both seem to have a problem comprehending facts and terminology. bg does not have over "$25 million in cash". his net worth is around $25 million. big difference. and i will bet that the vast majority if not all of it will go to charity when he passes. it just won't likely go to any charity that you would support.

what will you leave to charity when you pass?
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Givemeliberty wrote:
Stop braying like a jackass. Even Christian scholars admit nothing was written about Jesus for at least 50 years after his death.
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braying? put up a link to prove your point. bob apparently couldn't find one. at least his infidel site was honest in their scholarship. how about you take a shot at it?

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<quoted text>your clueless. you don't even know what a tax credit is.
My clueless...what?

Oh!

You meant to write "you're" as in "you are"...

... but you wrote "your" instead, meaning possessive-pronoun.

I find that amusing that someone with as poor a command of basic English, is attempting to educate men on... taxes...

... LMAO!

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barry wrote:
<quoted text>it's a document required by law and submitted each year to the irs. so if it's a lie which years did the irs have a problem with?
seems to me that hatred clouds your perspective.
It is a given that Graham is a liar.

That is automatic, as he is a Genuine Christian™, and they must, by definition, lie.

(they operate based on faith, and faith--by definition--is lying)

So of COURSE the document is fraud.

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barry wrote:
<quoted text>ok, once again, this is what i was and am responding to;
"Not a single document, letter, diary, book-of-whatever, was written about your Jewsus during his life.
Not one. All--without exception-- were written 60, 90, 100's of years AFTER."
now you just claimed that none of the gospels was written before the year 60 and most were written 90...
so my simple question to you is this;
when did Christ supposedly live and die?
your math is very fuzzy.
oh and btw, they all were written by contemporaries of Christ.
Your Jewsus was allegedly born on or around 3BCE. And died approximately 33 years later, at around 30CE.

NOTHING is written about him during that time--NOTHING.

None of your gospels (including those not "official").

None of your allegedly "secular" sources (Joseph, et-al)

Nothing written by the Romans-- even though we have 1000's of Roman records from that time-frame-- but NOTHING about your Jewsus.

Nothing was written DURING the period 3BCE to 60CE about your Jewsus-person.

Nothing.

The OLDEST writing dates to approximately 60CE.

Some date from 100CE and on.

Most date even later than that.

Do try to keep up.

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barry wrote:
<quoted text>if you are going to bring up the idea that they wrote about hercules, perhaps you can print exactly what they wrote about him so that all can see that they never gave credence to the existence of hercules but simply were quoting what someone else claimed about hercules.
So glad you phrased it EXACTLY that way.

For that is EXACTLY how they wrote about your fictional Jewsus!

They were REPEATING what others' said-- gossip in other words.

Good!

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barry wrote:
<quoted text>so? and how can you be so sure? rome leveled jeruselem in the year 70. destroyed everything in it. a lot of documentation is missing from that time.
Indeed.

Including ALL (if there ever was ANY) alleged documentation about your Jewsus.

ALL that we have left, is gossip and heresay.

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barry wrote:
<quoted text>again you show your ignorance. you have no idea what a tax credit is.
no one that i can tell ever received a tax credit for donating to the bg association.
ignorance does spawn hatred.
A tax credit means that if you give money away, you are credited that amount BACK by NOT paying the amount in TAX.

Thus?

Without tax exempt status, Billy-the-liar-Graham would never have made it out of the backwoods hickville that spawned him.

For NOBODY would have given him dime-one, without being PAID BACK BY THE GOVERNMENT.

This is true of ALL of your Genuine Christian™ Institutions of Lying.

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barry wrote:
<quoted text>"Sorry to burst your bubble, moron,"
real classy.
can't convince or prove your point so you need to resort to elementary school name calling.
Well, stop acting like a moron then.

If you are able, that is... doubtful...
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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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My clueless...what?
Oh!
You meant to write "you're" as in "you are"...
... but you wrote "your" instead, meaning possessive-pronoun.
I find that amusing that someone with as poor a command of basic English, is attempting to educate men on... taxes...
... LMAO!
right, deflect by playing the role of grammar police. you really are clueless. i was talking about your lack of understanding exactly what a tax credit is. no one and no way that i can think of can receive a tax credit from donating to bg's association.
maybe you can enlighten us.

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barry wrote:
<quoted text>his organization runs on a 15% budget. 15% of all donations are spent on administration and fundraising. that leaves about 85% going back into actual charitable efforts. i doubt that there are many organizations that you give to who could claim the same.
now the bigger question is are you and bob related? you both seem to have a problem comprehending facts and terminology. bg does not have over "$25 million in cash". his net worth is around $25 million. big difference. and i will bet that the vast majority if not all of it will go to charity when he passes. it just won't likely go to any charity that you would support.
what will you leave to charity when you pass?
Since we KNOW he is just another LIAR for JEWSUS?

It is doubtful these numbers you give here, are even a LITTLE accurate.

You are likely making them up as you go.

Lying is your only strategy, after all.

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Feb 22, 2013
 
barry wrote:
<quoted text>braying? put up a link to prove your point. bob apparently couldn't find one. at least his infidel site was honest in their scholarship. how about you take a shot at it?
Reading that site is where I drew my conclusions that 60 years it the oldest gospel.

Obviously, you failed to read the site-- typical lying Xianist.

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