Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

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President Barack Obama with Rev. Billy Graham at his house in Montreat, N.C., April 25, 2010.

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Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1039 May 2, 2013
Plus Dorothy came from Kansas at a time Kansas actually existed unlike Jesus who came from a city that didn't exist until the second century :)

Dorothy is coming out way ahead I hate to say it believers.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Don't forget: Dorthy of Oz, lived in a REAL place: Kansas.

But wait! There's more! In Oz, Dorthy experienced a tornado that lifted up a whole house! That can really happen, in Kansas--where there really are house-lifting tornados!

But wait! It gets even better! The actual Wizard of Oz was >>also<< from Kansas! And got to Oz via a hot air balloon!

And it turns out? There really >>are<< hot air balloons! They really do fly!

So it must all be true, right?

Right?

And little Toto too?

<laughing out loud>

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1040 May 2, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Plus Dorothy came from Kansas at a time Kansas actually existed unlike Jesus who came from a city that didn't exist until the second century :)
Dorothy is coming out way ahead I hate to say it believers.
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Oooh, good points. Dorthy for the WIN!

I say let's start a Church of Dorthy the savior of little dogs.
Imhotep

Gainesville, FL

#1041 May 3, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Oooh, good points. Dorthy for the WIN!
I say let's start a Church of Dorthy the savior of little dogs.
I don't think we're in Kansas anymore Toto

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1043 May 3, 2013
She saves the entire land of oz not Jesus! Sorry Jesus fans Dorothy outshines him!
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Oooh, good points. Dorthy for the WIN!

I say let's start a Church of Dorthy the savior of little dogs.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1044 May 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Plus Dorothy came from Kansas at a time Kansas actually existed unlike Jesus who came from a city that didn't exist until the second century :)
Dorothy is coming out way ahead I hate to say it believers.
<quoted text>
Wrong.

The city of Jesus' origin existed in the first century.

It had a different name then.

There is a difference in being renamed and not existing.

If you changed your name today, it would not render you non-existent yesterday.

For instance, when a woman marries, taking her husband's name, she still existed when single.

Otherwise, it would create a huge mess with record-keeping, credit records, criminal records, bank accounts, etc.

I can explain this more if you are not catching on.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1045 May 3, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
She saves the entire land of oz not Jesus! Sorry Jesus fans Dorothy outshines him!
<quoted text>
Oh, without a doubt-- Dorthy is >>loyal<< in contrast to Jesus, who isn't-- unless you act like a suck-up, of course.

Then Jesus is condescending to your azz...

I'll take Dorthy over Jesus any day. And the Cowardly Lion too.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1046 May 3, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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Wrong.
The city of Jesus' origin existed in the first century.

It had a different name then.
False. Archeology has dated Nazereth-- it did not exist during the alleged Jesus-events. Not even under a different label.

You are so very wrong? It's pathetic.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1047 May 3, 2013
Exactly Nazareth is not built on the ruins of another city. There really wasn't much of anything on the land.

Buck has a lack of blood flow to the brain because of all that fat. He is probably due for a stroke soon if he doesn't get on a heart healthy diet with proper exercise.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>False. Archeology has dated Nazereth-- it did not exist during the alleged Jesus-events. Not even under a different label.

You are so very wrong? It's pathetic.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1048 May 3, 2013
Dorothy also didn't condemn people to an eternity of burn hell if they didn't wear ruby slippers lol!
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, without a doubt-- Dorthy is >>loyal<< in contrast to Jesus, who isn't-- unless you act like a suck-up, of course.

Then Jesus is condescending to your azz...

I'll take Dorthy over Jesus any day. And the Cowardly Lion too.

“I'm out hunting”

Since: Jan 10

For your mind and soul

#1049 May 3, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
False. Archeology has dated Nazereth-- it did not exist during the alleged Jesus-events. Not even under a different label.
You are so very wrong? It's pathetic.
Christians love to lie in order to justify or scare people about their beliefs
On of their favorite lies is this: America must not become another Rome. Rome fell because of immorality and homosexuality.
Some godbot was saying that shyt to me.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TB7D3DSH7930G...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TB7D3DSH7930G...

I had to teach this dumb godbot some real history.
Rome fell twice, the Western Empire in 474, the East in 1453. On both dates, they were christian. By 474, hey had been christian for over 140 yrs. In fact, Rome reached it's zenith when it was most pagan and homosexual(under the reign of Emperor Hadrian). Pagans at the time blamed Christians for the empire's fall.
The truth is, that xtians love to rewrite the history of Rome so they can use it as a way to scare Americans into voting them in so that they could impose useless abstract moral laws on the rest of humanity

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1050 May 3, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Christians love to lie in order to justify or scare people about their beliefs
On of their favorite lies is this: America must not become another Rome. Rome fell because of immorality and homosexuality.
Some godbot was saying that shyt to me.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TB7D3DSH7930G...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TB7D3DSH7930G...
I had to teach this dumb godbot some real history.
Rome fell twice, the Western Empire in 474, the East in 1453. On both dates, they were christian. By 474, hey had been christian for over 140 yrs. In fact, Rome reached it's zenith when it was most pagan and homosexual(under the reign of Emperor Hadrian). Pagans at the time blamed Christians for the empire's fall.
The truth is, that xtians love to rewrite the history of Rome so they can use it as a way to scare Americans into voting them in so that they could impose useless abstract moral laws on the rest of humanity
Indeed. It was christianity which enabled the inevitable decay of the Empire-- Xianity teaches it's people to be mindless sheep-- easy prey for barbarians.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1051 May 4, 2013
Did you see how now they are saying that ancient Christians were not persecuted for their beliefs as much as previously thought?

And this from a study at catholic college Notre Dame!
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>Christians love to lie in order to justify or scare people about their beliefs
On of their favorite lies is this: America must not become another Rome. Rome fell because of immorality and homosexuality.
Some godbot was saying that shyt to me.
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TB7D3DSH7930G...
http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TB7D3DSH7930G...

I had to teach this dumb godbot some real history.
Rome fell twice, the Western Empire in 474, the East in 1453. On both dates, they were christian. By 474, hey had been christian for over 140 yrs. In fact, Rome reached it's zenith when it was most pagan and homosexual(under the reign of Emperor Hadrian). Pagans at the time blamed Christians for the empire's fall.
The truth is, that xtians love to rewrite the history of Rome so they can use it as a way to scare Americans into voting them in so that they could impose useless abstract moral laws on the rest of humanity

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1052 May 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Did you see how now they are saying that ancient Christians were not persecuted for their beliefs as much as previously thought?
And this from a study at catholic college Notre Dame!
<quoted text>
Is anyone surprised?

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1053 May 4, 2013
The study shows they were prosecuted for breaking the law. It seems early Christians were quite the belligerent bunch contrary to what modern Christians want you to believe.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Is anyone surprised?

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1054 May 4, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
The study shows they were prosecuted for breaking the law. It seems early Christians were quite the belligerent bunch contrary to what modern Christians want you to believe.
<quoted text>
Of course they were... the local gods were usually a strict part of the culture, and therefore a part of the local laws too.

They were all law-breakers. And I have no doubt, proud of it too.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1055 May 4, 2013
Even examples of them storming another religion's temple and proselytizing shouting at worshippers.

When you look at the record of Christians who were executed for just being Christians? Few and far between.

They were really just an annoyance it seems for their first 250 years.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Of course they were... the local gods were usually a strict part of the culture, and therefore a part of the local laws too.

They were all law-breakers. And I have no doubt, proud of it too.

“I'm out hunting”

Since: Jan 10

For your mind and soul

#1056 May 5, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Did you see how now they are saying that ancient Christians were not persecuted for their beliefs as much as previously thought?
And this from a study at catholic college Notre Dame!
<quoted text>
No, I would like aa link to that if you can. It wouldn't surprise me. No one cared about them until they started rioting and fighting each other over what books should be in the buybull and dumb shyt like which day is the Sabbath day.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#1057 May 5, 2013
You would be correct!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-23195...
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>No, I would like aa link to that if you can. It wouldn't surprise me. No one cared about them until they started rioting and fighting each other over what books should be in the buybull and dumb shyt like which day is the Sabbath day.

“I'm out hunting”

Since: Jan 10

For your mind and soul

#1058 May 5, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You would be correct!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-23195...
<quoted text>
Thanks for the link. We all know how they lie.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#1059 May 5, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong.
The city of Jesus' origin existed in the first century.
It had a different name then.
There is a difference in being renamed and not existing.
If you changed your name today, it would not render you non-existent yesterday.
For instance, when a woman marries, taking her husband's name, she still existed when single.
Otherwise, it would create a huge mess with record-keeping, credit records, criminal records, bank accounts, etc.
I can explain this more if you are not catching on.
Coming from the guy that wants you to desperately believe that jesus rode on the backs of dinosaurs and that fossils "aren't really there".

Give it up Buck: 0 Athiests converted by your stupid lies.

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