Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

There are 1635 comments on the Q-Notes story from Feb 13, 2013, titled Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?. In it, Q-Notes reports that:

President Barack Obama with Rev. Billy Graham at his house in Montreat, N.C., April 25, 2010.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#389 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>hey bob, i thought that you had "proved beyond a shadow of a doubt...";
"I proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt-- ALL the bits in Josephus' writings that mention your ficiontal jesus, are in the WRONG LANGUAGE.
Why is this so very hard for you to grasp?
The language used, was TOO NEW, to have been written by Josephus.
There really is no two ways about it-- it's a fraudulent passage, written by people who lie for a living."
apparently mads still has some doubts about your claim;
madscot wrote:
<quoted text>
"You're probably aware that Richard Carrier argues that the passage may have been written by Josephus but he was actually writing about Jesus Ben Sira (I think that's the right name, there were so many dudes named Yeshua back then)."
and now apparently you're not so sure about your "proof"
"Bob of Quantum-Faith"]<quoted text>
Thanks, but I was unaware...
interesting, which of you is right or are you not so sure?
Blah-blah-blah-- I no longer read your word-salad.

You have been established as a liar.

No amount of you, continuing to post even MORE lies will alleviate that fact, silly boyo.

NEXT!

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#390 Feb 28, 2013
Don't forget they believe in Satan the bad god.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
As for the math bit?
What sort of "math" are you talking of?
Xianist "math" where you claim 1 + 1 + 1 = 1?
Would THAT be the sort of "math" you are whining of?
You silly Xianists-- you claim to be "monotheistic" when in FACT, you are nothing of the sort!
You have any number of gods--
1) your bible-- you worship this like it was a god-- you refuse to change one period of it's evil wordage, why? Because you worship it!
2) your jewsus -- you worship this fictional man like he was your personal lover/slave. Kinda kinky, really
3) your god/father -- this is your personal wishing machine, whom you say special wishes to each day-- you call these wishes "prayers".
4) your holy goat/holy dove/holy rapist -- this is the "ghostly" part of your panetheon, the one you believe raped an underage teen Mary in order to begat the jewsus character.
5) Mary, the underaged teen-mother of jewsus-- whom most of you also worship like a god-- many of you Xianists ask HER for your wishes (prayers)
6) various Saints: peter, paul, john, etc, etc, etc, etc-- too many to count here, but each of these are literal gods as well-- they are granted special godlike magical powers, and many of you also ask them for wishes (prayers).
Shall I go on? Or are you embarrassed enough?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#391 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>oh, then explain bob's position to me in light of mads assertion.
Here's a lovely bit O'History: pictoral proof that Catholics were just fine with Nazism-- the pope of WW2 era, blessing Hitler's government.

It's an ugly series of Cat'Lick photos establishing that Genuine Catholic Church™ was the source of Hitler's anti-Semitic views.

The dogma (read: lies) that the Jews were "christ killers" has been well established throughout the ugly history of Genuine Christianity™, and not just among the Genuine Catholic Church™ either.

It took the ugliness of WW2, where the insane (but still a Genuine Catholic™) Hitler actually took the long-established dogma of Jews were "christ killers" and ran with it to the logical conclusion: kill all the Jews, in the name of Jewsus.(ironic? yep...)

This caused the rest of the world to Wake Up, and reject this evil idea as.... evil.

And of course, the Genuine Catholic Church™ quickly back-pedaled it's official stance regarding Jews, and embraced the new "let's love all Jews" meme.

Until the current, now-defunct Nazi Pope Ratzi of course... but that's another story...

" http://anticlerical.multiply.com/photos/album... ;

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#392 Feb 28, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Don't forget they believe in Satan the bad god.
<quoted text>
Ooops! My bad-- you are absolutely correct-- I should have listed Satan in the #2 spot, right after the BuyBull.

Seeing as how they give Satan-god more power than any of the rest.

Good catch!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#393 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>so you reject an atheistic post because of where i found it? it was still posted by an atheist. so an atheist is a snakeman by association?
While we are on Christian Atrocity™, here's a lovely piece on historical murders in the name of Genuine Christianity™

" http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings... ;

Now, it IS in the form of an essay/blog, but there are nice referential links to the source material.

It's worth your time to read (if you are able TO read, that is-- so far you haven't shown this is one of your abilities)...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#394 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>so you reject an atheistic post because of where i found it? it was still posted by an atheist. so an atheist is a snakeman by association?
Of course, since you are sympathetic with the Genuine Catholic Church™, you might also enjoy this:

The 6 Most Awful Popes

" http://www.somethingawful.com/d/most-awful/po... ;

It's an ugly tale of Pope Depravity writ on the backs (deaths) of the poor-- so very, very typical of True Believers™ though.

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#395 Feb 28, 2013
They always refuse to look at evidence which refutes their skydaddy and his buybull.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I gave you a link. You refused to look into it.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
barry

Henagar, AL

#396 Feb 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>In fact he did, and worse:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/...
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/03/17/us/billy-gr...
again, the inherent divisivness of religious cults is shown clearly...
barry wrote:
<quoted text>be careful. lw lied, bg never said anything about "satanic jews".

so did you read the sites that you posted? he never said anything about satanic jews.
he referenced a verse that refers to the "synagogue of Satan".
"Revelation, which says in verse 3:9 that there are those who claim to be Jews who are liars, and that they belong to a "synagogue of Satan."" so those of the synagogue of satan were not jews.

and your second site only mentions the word satan one time but it does say this;
"Mr. Graham's sterling reputation as a healer and bridge-builder was so at odds with Mr. Haldeman's account that Jewish groups paid little attention, especially because he denied the remarks so strongly."

neither site puts up a quote about "satanic jews"
so in fact he did not reference "satanic jews"
barry

Henagar, AL

#397 Feb 28, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course, since you are sympathetic with the Genuine Catholic Church™, you might also enjoy this:
The 6 Most Awful Popes
" http://www.somethingawful.com/d/most-awful/po... ;
It's an ugly tale of Pope Depravity writ on the backs (deaths) of the poor-- so very, very typical of True Believers™ though.
you are wrong agaain. i have nothing in common with the Catholic church.
barry

Henagar, AL

#398 Feb 28, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
While we are on Christian Atrocity™, here's a lovely piece on historical murders in the name of Genuine Christianity™
" http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings... ;
Now, it IS in the form of an essay/blog, but there are nice referential links to the source material.
It's worth your time to read (if you are able TO read, that is-- so far you haven't shown this is one of your abilities)...
barry wrote:
<quoted text>so you reject an atheistic post because of where i found it? it was still posted by an atheist. so an atheist is a snakeman by association?

can't respond to the truth that exposes your errores so you try to change the subject. my spiritual ancestors had nothing to do with what you posted.
barry

Henagar, AL

#399 Feb 28, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's a lovely bit O'History: pictoral proof that Catholics were just fine with Nazism-- the pope of WW2 era, blessing Hitler's government.
It's an ugly series of Cat'Lick photos establishing that Genuine Catholic Church™ was the source of Hitler's anti-Semitic views.
The dogma (read: lies) that the Jews were "christ killers" has been well established throughout the ugly history of Genuine Christianity™, and not just among the Genuine Catholic Church™ either.
It took the ugliness of WW2, where the insane (but still a Genuine Catholic™) Hitler actually took the long-established dogma of Jews were "christ killers" and ran with it to the logical conclusion: kill all the Jews, in the name of Jewsus.(ironic? yep...)
This caused the rest of the world to Wake Up, and reject this evil idea as.... evil.
And of course, the Genuine Catholic Church™ quickly back-pedaled it's official stance regarding Jews, and embraced the new "let's love all Jews" meme.
Until the current, now-defunct Nazi Pope Ratzi of course... but that's another story...
" http://anticlerical.multiply.com/photos/album... ;
barry wrote:
<quoted text>oh, then explain bob's position to me in light of mads assertion.

bob, what's this got to do with your claim to have "proved beyond a shadow of a doubt" that the writings of josephus were tampered with and a forgery added and then your accepting mads' assertion that they could be the words of josephus but that he was referring to anothe Jesus ben what ever his name was.

when called on your false claim you want to change the topic. this is a thread about bg not the catholic church.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#400 Feb 28, 2013
So you don't believe in god, jesus, hell or an afterlife?
barry wrote:
<quoted text>you are wrong agaain. i have nothing in common with the Catholic church.
barry

Henagar, AL

#401 Feb 28, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Blah-blah-blah-- I no longer read your word-salad.
You have been established as a liar.
No amount of you, continuing to post even MORE lies will alleviate that fact, silly boyo.
NEXT!
coward. face the truth.
barry

Henagar, AL

#402 Feb 28, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
No.
You would run away once more.
Pity you.
barry wrote:
<quoted text> oh, sorry i must have missed it. what post was it in or could you simply re-list it?

oh, so you can't list it because you never did post one did you?

when i check your posts i find and show that they don't say what you claim they say.
sorry

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#403 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>you are wrong agaain. i have nothing in common with the Catholic church.
Really?

All modern Genuine Christianity™ comes directly from the Catholic Church™.

So, you are lying here-- as per your usual habit.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#404 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
my spiritual ancestors had nothing to do with what you posted.
That yet another of your lies.

Do you or do you not, use the Genuine Bible™?

Hmmm?

If you do not use the bible, then WHAT do you use to justify your Genuine Christianity™?

If you DO us the bible? Then-- THESE ARE YOUR CHRISTIAN ANCESTORS.

And you are EQUALLY GUILTY FOR ANYTHING THEY DID--

--- because you all use the SAME EVIL BIBLE.

So.

You are lying, yet again.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#405 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>barry wrote:
<quoted text>oh, then explain bob's position to me in light of mads assertion.
bob, what's this got to do with your claim to have "proved beyond a shadow of a doubt" that the writings of josephus were tampered with and a forgery added and then your accepting mads' assertion that they could be the words of josephus but that he was referring to anothe Jesus ben what ever his name was.
when called on your false claim you want to change the topic. this is a thread about bg not the catholic church.
Josephus' words about "jesus" are forgeries.

Period.

The language is the wrong age-- too new-- for Josephus to have used.

Period.

There is no getting around that one--

-- but even if it WASN'T a forgery?

It was decades too late! Josephus wasn't even born, before your Jewsus allegedly died.

So anything Josephus wrote? Gossip.

Pure-D gossip.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#406 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>coward. face the truth.
I have: the bile-bull is an evil book, written by evil men, in order to control fools (such as ... you).

That is the truth.

You? You are the coward, afraid to face the fact that YOU ARE NOT MAGICALLY SIGNIFICANT TO THE GREATER UNIVERSE.

You aren't you know-- you're just a little insignificant speck of life on a tiny little planet-- and the greater universe DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOU.

At all.

And you, in your abject cowardice, cannot face that.

I suppose there's a lot of EGO on your part, too.

You insignificant narcissistic Genuine Christian™ you...

... LOL!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#407 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>barry wrote:
<quoted text> oh, sorry i must have missed it. what post was it in or could you simply re-list it?
oh, so you can't list it because you never did post one did you?
when i check your posts i find and show that they don't say what you claim they say.
sorry
*yawn*

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

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#409 Feb 28, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>i see that you documented your claim by posting a viable link. not.
Even you can check out the Nixon/Graham conversation.

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