Gitmo Prison Guard Converts From Athe...

Gitmo Prison Guard Converts From Atheism To Islam After Seeing...

There are 1239 comments on the Mediaite.com story from Apr 6, 2013, titled Gitmo Prison Guard Converts From Atheism To Islam After Seeing.... In it, Mediaite.com reports that:

CNN has an amazing story out of Guantanamo Bay about an American atheist prison camp guard that converted to Islam after spending extensive time talking to with some of the English speaking prisoners there.

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Zahir

Hurst, TX

#62 May 25, 2013
Marco the atheist wrote:
"nearly atheistic" is a euphemism for "still believing in god, but not finding the right religion", in other words, not atheist at all.
Not only the Prisoner Guard but even the Prisoners in thousands are embracing Islam in the American jails.
Islam remains to be the fastest growing religion of the world.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#63 May 25, 2013
Zahir wrote:
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Not only the Prisoner Guard but even the Prisoners in thousands are embracing Islam in the American jails.
Islam remains to be the fastest growing religion of the world.
Well then it MUST be true, right?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#64 May 25, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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But I don't see a fundie Christian as a risk because Jesus doesn't tell them to do the things that the Quran clearly tells Muslims to do. That's the difference. You have to actually read the Quran to understand, but nobody here has, and yet they comment on things as if they know. They know NOTHING about Muslims until they read the Quran and the hadiths.
That is exactly the problem with the Christain fundamentals, and in fact almost all Christains. Their bible myth-god has the same type instructions, for them, including orders to bring about the deaths or enslavement of almost everyone outside of thier own groups. They, though do not know the buybull, nor would they believe it. For them the god comes pre-sectioned, where they simply tear off the bits they don't like and keep that which pleases them. Most of this god-myth is never examined.

Seriously what percentage of them .... do you believe, know that their god threatens to make them eat their own children? Now how many of those would it make a difference to? How about their children, would they be accepting of such a god.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#65 May 25, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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God should behave as you think? You created everything? Your wisdom is the ultimate wisdom? My, that's mighty big and self complimentary of you to say.
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((chuckle chuckle)). No biggie, I know that you are discussing an an issue that you are very angry about. Can't say that I blame you, at least, on the surface of the matter. I don't deny your suffering.
The bible myth-god does behave exactly as men have directed him to. He was after all constructed as a tool to aid certain men in their pursuit of power and riches. Do you know why man was created, according to the buybull? It wasn't to worship the god, nor to in any way further the whole of mankind.

It was to till the earth.

Nothing more, some fat assed lazy slug of a man found a way to stay on his ass, while others plowed the earth, to grow his food. He brought a vengeful god to illiterate fools, and they fell before the bringer of the god.

Just for shits and giggles, google: golden hemorrhoids.

Did you know the same god, after creating Adam sent him out, among the animals to find his mate? Imagine that porn rodeo.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#67 May 25, 2013
Just for shits and giggles, google: biblical golden hemorrhoids.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#68 May 26, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>That is exactly the problem with the Christain fundamentals, and in fact almost all Christains. Their bible myth-god has the same type instructions, for them, including orders to bring about the deaths or enslavement of almost everyone outside of thier own groups.
Yell me where Jesus said that. That's what Christians are supposed to follow. Jesus bought a New Covenant and that's what Christians are supposed to follow.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#69 May 26, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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Yell me where Jesus said that. That's what Christians are supposed to follow. Jesus bought a New Covenant and that's what Christians are supposed to follow.
Liars with no proof of god, arguing the details of the lie, instead of the actual lie itself.

That's how apologists confuse the issue deliberately - it is misdirection and dishonesty all the way...

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Leicester, UK

#70 May 26, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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Because he has now changed from his original interview, and can we now be sure that this is the job he still wants anymore? Thank about it.
We know he still want's to be a guard as (far as we know) he hasn't quit, and he hasn't gone out in public and said bad thing about Gitmo.
And so far all he has changed is his religion not the side he is fighting for; he hasn’t yet aided the enemy.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#71 May 26, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Liars with no proof of god, arguing the details of the lie, instead of the actual lie itself.
That's how apologists confuse the issue deliberately - it is misdirection and dishonesty all the way...
All I asked is where Jesus told them to do any of the bad things they do. Do you want to start a whole thread discussing whether God exists or not? I can promise you that thread will last forever, for nobody can prove that God exists and nobody can prove that God doesn't exist. It's a rather pointless discussion.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#72 May 26, 2013
How do you know nobody can prove or disprove god exists?
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>All I asked is where Jesus told them to do any of the bad things they do. Do you want to start a whole thread discussing whether God exists or not? I can promise you that thread will last forever, for nobody can prove that God exists and nobody can prove that God doesn't exist. It's a rather pointless discussion.
EASY MONEY

Bangkok, Thailand

#73 May 26, 2013
Fire the fool and then shoot him, there is no reward for stupidty!
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#74 May 26, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
How do you know nobody can prove or disprove god exists?
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Well, what percentage of all there is to know in the universe do we know?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#75 May 26, 2013
Benjamin Frankly wrote:
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We know he still want's to be a guard as (far as we know) he hasn't quit, and he hasn't gone out in public and said bad thing about Gitmo.
And so far all he has changed is his religion not the side he is fighting for; he hasn’t yet aided the enemy.
Right, so wait until he does like the Fort Hood guy, and then remove him.

Since: Mar 11

Scottsburg, IN

#76 May 26, 2013
Meaningless.

You made the statement that nobody can prove or disprove a god's existence, I am asking how could you possibly know that nobody could do this. Explain that please.
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>Well, what percentage of all there is to know in the universe do we know?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#77 May 26, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Meaningless.
You made the statement that nobody can prove or disprove a god's existence, I am asking how could you possibly know that nobody could do this. Explain that please.
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Okay, now I'm meaningless. So here's something you can understand. Heisenberg's principle. All things are possible, but some things are highly unlikely. If you want to say that God is highly unlikely, then fine. But then that still begs to question on how much knowledge you have to determine whether something is likely or not. If you want to say that you are sure that there is no God that behaves the way YOU think God should, then that would be a fair statement. But now you are the determiner of the way God should be.

“Facts, not fiction”

Since: Apr 07

Earth

#78 May 26, 2013
Seeker wrote:
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Okay, now I'm meaningless. So here's something you can understand. Heisenberg's principle. All things are possible, but some things are highly unlikely. If you want to say that God is highly unlikely, then fine. But then that still begs to question on how much knowledge you have to determine whether something is likely or not. If you want to say that you are sure that there is no God that behaves the way YOU think God should, then that would be a fair statement. But now you are the determiner of the way God should be.
I think someone needs to read up on Heisenberg's principle. It has little to do with "all things are possible".
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#79 May 26, 2013
Okay, we'll try this one. It's a quote from Heisenberg

"Any concepts or words which have been formed in the past through the interplay between the world and ourselves are not really sharply defined with respect to their meaning: that is to say, we do not know exactly how far they will help us in finding our way in the world. We often know that they can be applied to a wide range of inner or outer experience, but we practically never know precisely the limits of their applicability. This is true even of the simplest and most general concepts like "existence" and "space and time". Therefore, it will never be possible by pure reason to arrive at some absolute truth.
The concepts may, however, be sharply defined with regard to their connections... a group of connected concepts may be applicable to a wide field of experience and will help us to find our way in this field. But the limits of the applicability will in general not be known, at least not completely..."

But we all KNOW that there can't be a God. We are sure of it. It is fact. It can be proven.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#80 May 26, 2013
I would have loved to lose a debate in the 13th century by arguing that there is such a thing as radio waves. Clearly I would lose every time.
Imhotep

Sevierville, TN

#81 May 26, 2013
I apply the Abraham Lincoln test for moral casuistry: “If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.” Well, then, if waterboarding does not constitute torture, then there is no such thing as torture.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#82 May 26, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
I apply the Abraham Lincoln test for moral casuistry:“If slavery is not wrong, nothing is wrong.” Well, then, if waterboarding does not constitute torture, then there is no such thing as torture.
It IS classified as torture, why do you think that the Government wanted to do that in secret?

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