Gitmo Prison Guard Converts From Atheism To Islam After Seeing...

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CNN has an amazing story out of Guantanamo Bay about an American atheist prison camp guard that converted to Islam after spending extensive time talking to with some of the English speaking prisoners there.

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Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#652 Jun 12, 2013
Yes agnostic means you do not have knowledge about god. It deals with the proposition of knowledge not faith. As I clearly stated.

You Christholes always make such braying jackasses out of yourself.

And you don't need to be a mystic to see that!

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, the definition of gnostic has to do with knowing, and agnostic means not knowing. Have you ever even stepped foot in any college, let alone a University? And yet you KNOW it all and want to tell everybody else how it is? You never listen to anything. Anybody who is completely dismissive without being able to explain why, in detail, as you have continually done, is someone who is not well educated. Forget about religion for a moment, I can tell that you don't even have any formal education in Philosophy nor Psychology. I think it was you that actually had the ignorance to even poo poo Heisenberg, one of the most brilliant minds in Physics, as merely a dead German. That alone shows your ignorance and lack of education. BTW, let me ask you, just how many guns do you have? Do you have any semi anarchist leanings? I'm not making any claim, just asking and exploring.

Givemeliberty wrote, "
Why do you attack non believers?
Certainly you are not an agnostic.
<quoted text>
"

And you are an "us verse them" sort of person, and I love to see you and Shamma argue about things because you and him are the same person on the opposite sides of the spectrum, and neither of you have the faintest idea of that. So you guys are two peas in a pod, made for each other. Dogma verse dogma. You say he's stupid, and he's says you are stupid and going to hell. Perfect. A conversation where neither listens to a word the other says and instead just exchanges insufficiently explained, blanket claims. You're wrong. No, you're wrong. And nothing of any real substance ever comes of it, except for mutual anger.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#653 Jun 12, 2013
Yawn.... And?

Perhaps you should self reflect on your lack of reading comprehension?
Seeker wrote:
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#654 Jun 12, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes agnostic means you do not have knowledge about god. It deals with the proposition of knowledge not faith. As I clearly stated.
Would you please quit making up your own definitions? Choose the correct word that says what you actually mean.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#655 Jun 12, 2013
Wow you are dim, mystic lover. What definition that I gave was incorrect?

Hurry up now or be humiliated once again.
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>Would you please quit making up your own definitions? Choose the correct word that says what you actually mean.
Thinking

Sidmouth, UK

#656 Jun 13, 2013
Hate is a very strong word.
Do you feel you deserve to be hated?
Do you feel important enough to be hated?
Why not tell the truth for once and see how that goes.
Lincoln wrote:
Being an agnostic seems honest.
Why do you hate those who do not share your beliefs?
<quoted text>
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#657 Jun 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Wow you are dim, mystic lover. What definition that I gave was incorrect?
Hurry up now or be humiliated once again.
<quoted text>
"Agnosticism has nothing to do with belief it has to do with knowledge."

ag·nos·tic
/ag&#712;nästik/
Noun
A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena;...
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#658 Jun 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Why not tell the truth for once and see how that goes.
What's the truth?
Thinking

Sidmouth, UK

#659 Jun 13, 2013
Example: I'm truthful when I say I'm a 6.x on this scale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_of_thei...

Lincoln doesn't give straight answers.
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
What's the truth?
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#660 Jun 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Example: I'm truthful when I say I'm a 6.x on this scale.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectrum_of_thei...
Lincoln doesn't give straight answers.
<quoted text>
Oh, straight answers. Okay.
Thinking

Sidmouth, UK

#661 Jun 13, 2013
Evasion - as exhibited by Lincoln - certainly devalues my opinion of someone's viewpoint.
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, straight answers. Okay.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#662 Jun 13, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Evasion - as exhibited by Lincoln - certainly devalues my opinion of someone's viewpoint.
<quoted text>
Willful evasion can be annoying. Some people think that I am trying to be evasive because the ideas I put forth can often be very abstract and foreign to normal modes of reasoning. But I don't think of it as evasive, just something that might not be easily or immediately grasped because of the foreign nature of them. But I do always try to answer every request given to me the best that I can. Sometimes, things don't fit into words very well and that can confuse, irritate or even frustrate some, or just cause them to outright dismiss it without any real explanation why.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#663 Jun 13, 2013
Again it deals with knowledge. I notice you couldn't provide a link. Allow me to be more honest.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

Agnosticism: The view that the existence of any deity is unknown or unknowable.

http://i.word.com/idictionary/agnostic

Where did you find your strangely worded definition that threw belief into it? Surely it was a reputable source used in universities everywhere right?

Oh wait... Here is where you mysticed that up!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...

Urban dictionary!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Oh you Christholes are hilarious! Thanks for the laughs idiot!
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>"Agnosticism has nothing to do with belief it has to do with knowledge."

ag·nos·tic
/ag&#712;nästik/
Noun
A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena;...

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#664 Jun 13, 2013
I will say your bumbling has more to with ignorance than your failure to properly express yourself in words.
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>Willful evasion can be annoying. Some people think that I am trying to be evasive because the ideas I put forth can often be very abstract and foreign to normal modes of reasoning. But I don't think of it as evasive, just something that might not be easily or immediately grasped because of the foreign nature of them. But I do always try to answer every request given to me the best that I can. Sometimes, things don't fit into words very well and that can confuse, irritate or even frustrate some, or just cause them to outright dismiss it without any real explanation why.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#665 Jun 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Again it deals with knowledge. I notice you couldn't provide a link. Allow me to be more honest.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
I didn't see the word knowledge on that entire page. Now if you mentioned the word gnostic, I would probably see the work know or knowing or knowledge.
Givemeliberty wrote:
Agnosticism: The view that the existence of any deity is unknown or unknowable.
http://i.word.com/idictionary/agnostic
Where did you find your strangely worded definition that threw belief into it?
Because you said that it has to do with knowledge, and yet the word is the antithesis of knowledge because gnostic means knowledge or "knowing". Again, have you ever stepped foot in any University, let alone any College in your entire life? You don't sound like you have.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#666 Jun 13, 2013
Yes retard because gnostic means with knowledge agnostic means without!

Wow just wow.

Holy hell you are thick! No wonder you fall for mystic bullsht artists!
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't see the word knowledge on that entire page. Now if you mentioned the word gnostic, I would probably see the work know or knowing or knowledge.

Givemeliberty wrote, "
Agnosticism: The view that the existence of any deity is unknown or unknowable.
http://i.word.com/idictionary/agnostic
Where did you find your strangely worded definition that threw belief into it?"

Because you said that it has to do with knowledge, and yet the word is the antithesis of knowledge because gnostic means knowledge or "knowing". Again, have you ever stepped foot in any University, let alone any College in your entire life? You don't sound like you have.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#667 Jun 13, 2013
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
What about the term that I mentioned called "self reflection"? What does that term mean to you?
Sounds like babble-speak to me.

In short? New Age bullshit, devoid of useful meaning.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#668 Jun 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes retard because gnostic means with knowledge agnostic means without!
Wow just wow.
Well then don't say things like this and I wouldn't have to correct you, okay?

"Agnosticism has nothing to do with belief it has to do with knowledge."

Those are YOUR words, not mine. Now go ahead and backtrack and try to rearrange them and reexplain them any way that you can to save face. I know how you operate at this way. You have a HUGE pride to protect, and that is your major shortcoming.

Now, let me even piss your excessive pride off even more. Have you ever graduated from any decent University or even College? Have you ever had any formal classes in Philosophy, Psychology, Law, Logic or Mathematics? I don't think that you have, and I can tell by the nature and general tone of your responses. I don't ask for agreement, I merely ask for well thought out INTELLIGENT and EDUCATED disagreement, if you choose to disagree. But you display none of that, while others who disagree with me DO. You are nothing but an angry bag with a major chip on your shoulder and an uneducated wannabee.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#669 Jun 13, 2013
I have my Masters yes. And again... yet again... once again of Mystic lover, show me where I was incorrect about the term agnsotic?

Agnosticism really has nothing to do with belief one way or the other.

Here let me hold your hand and try to use smaller words.

Athesist/Theist deals with the proposition of personal belief in a god. Okay? With me so far? Didn't get lost in mystic candyland?

Ok good. Now a breath, exhale, clear your mind of mystic stupidity.... With me? Ready? Are you sure? I can give you another few minutes little fella if you need it. Take a break before reading further I don't want you to injure yourself...

ready?

Last chance...

No really last chance half wit...

Here we go....

Agnostic/Gnostic deals with the proposition of having knowledge or knowing about a god's existance.

Wait! Don't respond and make a braying jackass out of yourself! I know you want to!

Take your time, go slowly... Very slowly! Read it and then read it again a few times. Say it out loud to yourself slowly and maybe it will finally sink through layers.

I swear folks I should be able to claim this on my taxes as educating the mentally challenged.
Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
Well then don't say things like this and I wouldn't have to correct you, okay?
"Agnosticism has nothing to do with belief it has to do with knowledge."
Those are YOUR words, not mine. Now go ahead and backtrack and try to rearrange them and reexplain them any way that you can to save face. I know how you operate at this way. You have a HUGE pride to protect, and that is your major shortcoming.
Now, let me even piss your excessive pride off even more. Have you ever graduated from any decent University or even College? Have you ever had any formal classes in Philosophy, Psychology, Law, Logic or Mathematics? I don't think that you have, and I can tell by the nature and general tone of your responses. I don't ask for agreement, I merely ask for well thought out INTELLIGENT and EDUCATED disagreement, if you choose to disagree. But you display none of that, while others who disagree with me DO. You are nothing but an angry bag with a major chip on your shoulder and an uneducated wannabee.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#670 Jun 13, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
I have my Masters yes.
In what? And from where?
Givemeliberty wrote:
And again... yet again... once again of Mystic lover, show me where I was incorrect about the term agnsotic?
Agnosticism really has nothing to do with belief one way or the other.
You said it had nothing to do with belief and had to do with knowledge, and you know you said that. And the definition I quoted mentioned both belief and LACK of knowledge. I knew you would backtrack and change what you said any way that you could and I even said that in my last post.
Givemeliberty wrote:
Here let me hold your hand and try to use smaller words.
Why don't you just use the correct ones the first time and you wouldn't even have to "hold my hand"? It's not my fault.
Givemeliberty wrote:
Athesist/Theist deals with the proposition of personal belief in a god. Okay? With me so far? Didn't get lost in mystic candyland?
Ok good. Now a breath, exhale, clear your mind of mystic stupidity....
There is no need for the extraneous, personal comments. That only shows anger and excessive hurt pride on your part. Just get to the point.
Givemeliberty wrote:
With me? Ready? Are you sure?
I was ready 50 or so posts ago. Why the stupid theatrics?
Givemeliberty wrote:
I can give you another few minutes little fella if you need it. Take a break before reading further I don't want you to injure yourself...ready?
Last chance...
No really last chance half wit...
Here we go....
Again, slights like this only show your anger and that your pride is hurt or challenged. Just get to the point.
Givemeliberty wrote:
Agnostic/Gnostic deals with the proposition of having knowledge or knowing about a god's existance.
The fact of the matter is that you never said Agnostic/Gnostic, you merely said Agnostic, and I knew you would try to cleverly backtrack any way that you could because you can't stand to ever be mistaken about anything, but it's all in writing. If you think I misunderstood, then it's YOUR fault not mine. But you never even uttered the word Gnostic at all until I pointed out how you were erroneously using the term Agnostic. In fact, I was the first person who even uttered the term Gnostic, because I know full and well what both words mean. But I know that you can't stand to ever be mistaken about anything and this is where the anger and personal slights to me come from before you even got to the point itself in your post. I've seen this profile before.
Seeker

Lowell, MA

#671 Jun 13, 2013
"Agnostic/Gnostic deals with the proposition of having knowledge or knowing about a god's existance."

And that is Gnostic, not Agnostic. So you are wrong once again, and i can even prove it.

Here's the definition of agnostic once again, but I guess you are so smart that you should have written the dictionary itself

ag·nos·tic
/ag&#712;nästik/
Noun
A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena

So where is knowledge or having knowledge in that definition? Do you want to know where we can find the words you said?

Gnos·tic (nstk)
adj.
1. gnostic Of, relating to, or possessing intellectual or spiritual knowledge.

So go argue with the people that wrote the dictionary themselves, as we all know that they are all full of it and you are smarter than they are and know the meaning of words better than they do, if that suits your needs.

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