Religion trumps safety for women riding motorcycles

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Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#1 Jan 19, 2013
Here's a line for the YouTube video:

"We live in an ocean of insanity when it comes to religion." - Cenk Uygur

Women Banned From Straddling Motorcycles in Indonesia

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""In the name of honoring women, the mayor of Lhokseumawe, in Aceh, Indonesia, recently announced he would prohibit them from straddling motorcycles or bicycles when given a ride. It's in the best interests of women to ride sidesaddle, Suaidi Yahya told the Jakarta Globe, because when they ride with their legs open they are prone to break Shari'a law."*

Women in Indonesia have been banned from straddling motorbikes and will have to ride with both legs to one side. They also can't hold onto a man driving the bike. Is this "morality" being touted over safety for the women? Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian break it down."

Related article:

Indonesia City to Prohibit Women Passengers from Straddling Motorcycles

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EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#2 Jan 20, 2013
Lol! And some Indonesians wish to get science out and the teaching of English language out of primary schools. The best time for a child to learn a foreign language is might be below the age of seven or eight.

(Religion. You can't live with it and you can't live with it :-)

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#3 Jan 21, 2013
Holy flying dogturds! This goes beyond stupid. Oh but this is the same religion that believes in the holy she-camel of Allah.

:sigh:
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#4 Jan 24, 2013
There's always some kindly religious type looking out for women's rights, isn't there?

Bastard.
Amused

Spencer, MA

#5 Jan 25, 2013
Perhaps I should offer him a ride on the back of my Wide Glide. He can ride side-saddle and not hold on to me. By the time I get to 4th gear, I'll bet he has a whole new perspective on passengers' "best interests". Or a serious case of road rash.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#6 Jan 25, 2013
Castrate him. It's not women who have this issue, it's him.
Amused wrote:
Perhaps I should offer him a ride on the back of my Wide Glide. He can ride side-saddle and not hold on to me. By the time I get to 4th gear, I'll bet he has a whole new perspective on passengers' "best interests". Or a serious case of road rash.
Amused

Spencer, MA

#7 Jan 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Castrate him. It's not women who have this issue, it's him.
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Well, obviously there is a problem, and the problem is not with the women. On the other hand, urging that he be mutilated for having an incorrect perception sounds rather a bit like the reaction of a muslim fundie more than the reaction of a rational atheist. Yes, his ideas are rooted in ignorance. But they are really not his ideas. They are the ideas of a religion that is intolerant, bigoted and misogynistic. They are ideas that were planted in his head when he was too young to think critically about them. They are ideas that were drilled into him as a child and as a student. They are ideas that were never questioned by anyone he came into contact with, by any book he was allowed to read, any television or radio program or movie he was allowed to watch or listen to. If you or I were born into that place at that time, is there any doubt we would have the same ideas. Or at least, if we had any doubts, that we would keep those doubts to ourselves and continue to spout the party line out of fear of the consequences of speaking out?

Certainly, the ideas are wrong, and need to be challenged. The people who express these ideas should be educated. But to urge harm to them is wrong.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#8 Jan 26, 2013
He's obviously a danger to women.
He'd have a better life castrated.
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, obviously there is a problem, and the problem is not with the women. On the other hand, urging that he be mutilated for having an incorrect perception sounds rather a bit like the reaction of a muslim fundie more than the reaction of a rational atheist. Yes, his ideas are rooted in ignorance. But they are really not his ideas. They are the ideas of a religion that is intolerant, bigoted and misogynistic. They are ideas that were planted in his head when he was too young to think critically about them. They are ideas that were drilled into him as a child and as a student. They are ideas that were never questioned by anyone he came into contact with, by any book he was allowed to read, any television or radio program or movie he was allowed to watch or listen to. If you or I were born into that place at that time, is there any doubt we would have the same ideas. Or at least, if we had any doubts, that we would keep those doubts to ourselves and continue to spout the party line out of fear of the consequences of speaking out?
Certainly, the ideas are wrong, and need to be challenged. The people who express these ideas should be educated. But to urge harm to them is wrong.

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Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#9 Feb 4, 2013
They don't call Harley's Milwaukee Vibrators for nothing.

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