Atheist Babies

Atheist Babies

There are 43 comments on the Longrider story from Jun 13, 2014, titled Atheist Babies. In it, Longrider reports that:

Andrew Brown wibbles over at CiF about Dawkins' assertion that babies are atheist - that is, atheism is the default and that religious belief is taught.

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“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#1 Jun 15, 2014
Yep, that is pretty much exactly how it is. Babies are free of theism, therefore they are atheists. But indoctrinate them and that changes them to theists.
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#2 Jun 16, 2014
Since babies are the production of the union between the mother and a father, that baby will be taught the parents direction for life in this world, no matter what religion they believe.

When that baby grows to have thinking ability and questions, he will decide for himself what to believe, Atheists are people who choose not to believe in a spiritual force for good or evil, and there is no debate, it is absolute.

On the other hand, a person who was raised in Bible teaching of any kind, and makes the decision all religion is a farce, and lives it, that person, if he has an honest heart, can be reasoned with. The Bible is God's word, even if it is preached by fakes, the truth can be proven as fact.
Hebrews 4:12,13
1 Corinthians 1:21
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#3 Jun 16, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
Yep, that is pretty much exactly how it is. Babies are free of theism, therefore they are atheists. But indoctrinate them and that changes them to theists.
Yes. One would think that was so obvious it wouldn't need stating, but that's religionism for you.
Religion = superstition

Thought this was interesting....
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/15/...

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#4 Jun 17, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Since babies are the production of the union between the mother and a father, that baby will be taught the parents direction for life in this world, no matter what religion they believe.
When that baby grows to have thinking ability and questions, he will decide for himself what to believe, Atheists are people who choose not to believe in a spiritual force for good or evil, and there is no debate, it is absolute.
On the other hand, a person who was raised in Bible teaching of any kind, and makes the decision all religion is a farce, and lives it, that person, if he has an honest heart, can be reasoned with. The Bible is God's word, even if it is preached by fakes, the truth can be proven as fact.
Hebrews 4:12,13
1 Corinthians 1:21
Until you lot can learn to indoctrinate before birth, all babies are born atheist, and stay that way until they are indoctrinated. Atheist is the default. As natural as breathing air.

BTW, in all that rambling did you mean to say something, and only 5 measly judgits .......... slipping a bit?

Leviticus 26:28-29

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#5 Jun 17, 2014
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Yes. One would think that was so obvious it wouldn't need stating, but that's religionism for you.
Religion = superstition
Thought this was interesting....
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/15/...
Sort of like the poster above? I believe saying it a million times is not enough, because so many of them are able to not see truth, no matter how big or loud it is.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#6 Jun 17, 2014
You worship a god that you believe killed every baby not on the ark.
True Christian witness wrote:
Since babies are the production of the union between the mother and a father, that baby will be taught the parents direction for life in this world, no matter what religion they believe.
When that baby grows to have thinking ability and questions, he will decide for himself what to believe, Atheists are people who choose not to believe in a spiritual force for good or evil, and there is no debate, it is absolute.
On the other hand, a person who was raised in Bible teaching of any kind, and makes the decision all religion is a farce, and lives it, that person, if he has an honest heart, can be reasoned with. The Bible is God's word, even if it is preached by fakes, the truth can be proven as fact.
Hebrews 4:12,13
1 Corinthians 1:21
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#7 Jun 17, 2014
Thinking wrote:
You worship a god that you believe killed every baby not on the ark.
<quoted text>
Parents are responsible for their children, according to Jesus, he taught that obedience to parents direction was vital, if the parents disobey God's Prophet for survival, the children die too.
The same is true today, the war of Armageddon will destroy every ungodly person, only the meek will survive. Psalms 37:11. Proverbs 2:21,22
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#8 Jun 17, 2014
You worship a god that you believe killed every unborn baby not on the ark.
True Christian witness wrote:
<quoted text>
Parents are responsible for their children, according to Jesus, he taught that obedience to parents direction was vital, if the parents disobey God's Prophet for survival, the children die too.
The same is true today, the war of Armageddon will destroy every ungodly person, only the meek will survive. Psalms 37:11. Proverbs 2:21,22

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#9 Jun 17, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
<quoted text>
Parents are responsible for their children, according to Jesus, he taught that obedience to parents direction was vital, if the parents disobey God's Prophet for survival, the children die too.
The same is true today, the war of Armageddon will destroy every ungodly person, only the meek will survive. Psalms 37:11. Proverbs 2:21,22
Piss off old buybull god and he will make you eat your children. If the children piss him off, they get stoned ... by you and the village elders. Or if he is in the right mood when you piss him off, he will have your neighbor banging your wife out in the street. Somehow that all just screams that we absolutley must respect the god of Abraham now doesn't it?

Are you meek enough to watch your neighbor hump your wife?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#10 Jun 18, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
<quoted text>
Parents are responsible for their children, according to Jesus, he taught that obedience to parents direction was vital, if the parents disobey God's Prophet for survival, the children die too.
The same is true today, the war of Armageddon will destroy every ungodly person, only the meek will survive. Psalms 37:11. Proverbs 2:21,22
No one needs jesus to be responsible for their children. Or should I say no one should need anyone to blame for their responsibility. Of course there are some numpties who will allow another, even a myth to take the blame for their actions, or lack of them.

The babble says a lot of things including that you god committed genocide which included all (that’s ALL) children on this planet. A while later he went around killing all first born children, and you think this sort of behaviour is ok because it’s your god wot dun it?

No wonder you are happy that child abuse is so rampant in your faith
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#11 Jun 18, 2014
Atheists do not hate God, like you do, your beliefs are according to your brain, demented by your own persuasion, and you have the right to believe whatever you want. You argue something you know nothing about, nor do you have the Truth.

Anyone who is a Bible reader, knows God is real and so is Jesus.
The Bible says, everyone will know Jehovah at Armageddon, but not as a friend. Ezekiel 7:4

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#12 Jun 18, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Atheists do not hate God, like you do, your beliefs are according to your brain, demented by your own persuasion, and you have the right to believe whatever you want. You argue something you know nothing about, nor do you have the Truth.
Anyone who is a Bible reader, knows God is real and so is Jesus.
The Bible says, everyone will know Jehovah at Armageddon, but not as a friend. Ezekiel 7:4
? why do you assume jw’s are god?

There is nothing to hate in the myth, rather like claiming someone hates harry potter
I have read the babble, probably more intently than you could ever consider, and the ting is I do not “interpret” but read what is written, and this is what upsets people like you
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#13 Jun 18, 2014
My point exactly.....
Thinking

Beaminster, UK

#14 Jun 18, 2014
Ezekiel 9:5-7 tells you to kill little children. Do you?
True Christian witness wrote:
Atheists do not hate God, like you do, your beliefs are according to your brain, demented by your own persuasion, and you have the right to believe whatever you want. You argue something you know nothing about, nor do you have the Truth.
Anyone who is a Bible reader, knows God is real and so is Jesus.
The Bible says, everyone will know Jehovah at Armageddon, but not as a friend. Ezekiel 7:4

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#15 Jun 18, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Atheists do not hate God, like you do, your beliefs are according to your brain, demented by your own persuasion, and you have the right to believe whatever you want. You argue something you know nothing about, nor do you have the Truth.
Anyone who is a Bible reader, knows God is real and so is Jesus.
The Bible says, everyone will know Jehovah at Armageddon, but not as a friend. Ezekiel 7:4
Let's break this down
1. Atheist cannot hate that which does not exist without seriously meriting a time out in a padded room.
2. Everyone's beliefs are from their own brain. Your'e kidding right? Like maybe that is where the buybull came from, some loons brain? Does your putrid religion spawn from your own grey matter?
3. Demented by your own persuasion? English is not your first language, now is it?
If we are pretending that the buybull is truth ... then you just might have to cook and eat the kiddies for real, right? That would be a buybull truth, just like your god inflicts men with hemorrhoids, but a sacrifice of golden dipt 'roids will convince him to heal that which he has brought about. Does the golden dip sweeten the festering sacrificial anal tissue?
Roid harvesting, why has there never been a hymn about that? LOL!
A buybull reader is a believer? Not so. Anyone actually reading it, is more likely to file 13 it, rather than believe it. It's the ones who never read past where thier witchdoctors/spell casters tell them to, who are the believers
Arj

Adelaide, Australia

#16 Jun 18, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
Since babies are the production of the union between the mother and a father, that baby will be taught the parents direction for life in this world, no matter what religion they believe.
When that baby grows to have thinking ability and questions, he will decide for himself what to believe, Atheists are people who choose not to believe in a spiritual force for good or evil, and there is no debate, it is absolute.
On the other hand, a person who was raised in Bible teaching of any kind, and makes the decision all religion is a farce, and lives it, that person, if he has an honest heart, can be reasoned with. The Bible is God's word, even if it is preached by fakes, the truth can be proven as fact.
Hebrews 4:12,13
1 Corinthians 1:21
Unless the baby is orphaned or adopted out

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#17 Jun 19, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
My point exactly.....
Ahh so your point is that you are delusional

Thank you for being so honest
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#18 Jun 19, 2014
Arj wrote:
<quoted text>Unless the baby is orphaned or adopted out
Babies are innocent, whether they are orphaned or adopted, it is that child who will grow into his own person with beliefs based on whatever education he is given, especially Bible teachings.
You cannot make anyone love or obey God or Jesus, it is the heart condition of a person that will cultivate that seed of truth.
Matthew 13:18-23
Thinking

Beaminster, UK

#19 Jun 19, 2014
Your bible said all babies not on the ark were drowned.
True Christian witness wrote:
<quoted text>
Babies are innocent...

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#20 Jun 19, 2014
True Christian witness wrote:
<quoted text>
Babies are innocent, whether they are orphaned or adopted, it is that child who will grow into his own person with beliefs based on whatever education he is given, especially Bible teachings.
You cannot make anyone love or obey God or Jesus, it is the heart condition of a person that will cultivate that seed of truth.
Matthew 13:18-23
Yet that does not stop your god from killing them?

And it did not stop you saying that it’s ok for your god to punish/kill innocent babies for the (perceived) sins of their parents

And still the child abuse of indoctrination of children into their parents religious beliefs is widespread

Hypocrite much?

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