Bill Maher believes in God?

Bill Maher believes in God?

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hmm

Seattle, WA

#1 Apr 9, 2009
I was watching this clip of Bill Maher in an interview/debate and I am confused. I thought Bill Maher was an Atheist/Agnostic?

He seems to say at 2:09+ "Whoa whoa, I didn't say I don't believe in God, I said I don't believe in religion".

I want others to watch this clip and please tell me this is what I heard:

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hmm

Seattle, WA

#2 Apr 10, 2009
Bill Maher never attacks Judaism. It's very strange that he strictly focuses on Islam and Christianity?

I am just saying if you are truly an atheist, like many of you on here are, wouldn't you primarily strike the religion of your own people first? Wouldn't you want to save your own people from the "delusion"? He doesn't seem to try to save Jews from believing in Judaism?

What do you atheists think of Bill Maher?

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#3 Apr 10, 2009
Bill Maher was born to a Jewish mother and a Catholic father. He was raised Catholic and did not even know he was half jewish till he was 13 years old.This from his own mouth.starts at 50 sec. He also says he don't like the word atheist and says about himself that he does not know if there is a god.


Bill's movie Religulous ridicules Christianity,
DailyAtheist

New Albany, OH

#4 Apr 10, 2009
Agnostics do not believe in God because there's not enough eveidence that God exists. Atheists believe that God does not exist. Bill is an agnostic. He does not believe that there's eveidence for the existence of God. Conversely, he oes not believe that anyone can say that "there is no God" with certainty.
nina

Canada

#5 Apr 10, 2009
hmm wrote:
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I am just saying if you are truly an atheist, like many of you on here are, wouldn't you primarily strike the religion of your own people first?...
no, because being an atheist is not about childish temper tantrums

all religions are equal in their silliness, there's no reason to single one out above the others
hmm

Seattle, WA

#6 Apr 10, 2009
I see most of you missed the point of the video clip and what I was asking.

Bill Maher said "Whoa whoa, I didn't say I don't believe in God, I said I don't believe in religion". He said that in that videoclip, I always had the impression that Maher didn't believe in the existence of God or a deity.

Well if he is striking primarily Christianity and slightly Islam, but never Judaism. That is what is troubling me, how can you be anti-religion when you are selective of the religions you criticise?

Is it wrong to criticise Judaism?
hmm

Seattle, WA

#7 Apr 10, 2009
I personally don't think Bill Maher is an agnostic nor an atheist. He is a deist and he might be a closet Jew possibly Kabbalist!
hmm

Seattle, WA

#8 Apr 10, 2009
wow, they deleted my posts

Is talking about Judaism not allowed in the Western Nations?

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Nunya

#9 Apr 10, 2009
hmm wrote:
Bill Maher said "Whoa whoa, I didn't say I don't believe in God, I said I don't believe in religion".
But he didn't that he DID believe in god.
hmm wrote:
Well if he is striking primarily Christianity and slightly Islam, but never Judaism. That is what is troubling me, how can you be anti-religion when you are selective of the religions you criticise?
Is it wrong to criticise Judaism?
Perhaps he only attacks religions that affect his personal life. And no, it's never wrong to attack ANY religion.

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#10 Apr 10, 2009
hmm wrote:
I was watching this clip of Bill Maher in an interview/debate and I am confused. I thought Bill Maher was an Atheist/Agnostic?
He seems to say at 2:09+ "Whoa whoa, I didn't say I don't believe in God, I said I don't believe in religion".
I want others to watch this clip and please tell me this is what I heard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =qYW2xXxFVtUXX&feature=Pla yList&p=5CD8B35CC015F7EF &index=10&playnext=1 &playnext_from=PL
Bill was just making sure nobody was putting words in his mouth or twisting his argument. Being quoted correctly in any kind of debate is paramount.
hmm

Seattle, WA

#11 Apr 10, 2009
LowellGuy wrote:
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Bill was just making sure nobody was putting words in his mouth or twisting his argument. Being quoted correctly in any kind of debate is paramount.
"quoted correctly". So is correct to conclude that Maher meant "I believe in God but not in religions" when he said "Whoa, whoa I didn't say I don't believe in God, I said I don't believe in religions" ?

I am only asking what is Maher's position on the existence or nonexistence of a Supreme Deity?

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Nunya

#12 Apr 10, 2009
hmm wrote:
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"quoted correctly". So is correct to conclude that Maher meant "I believe in God but not in religions" when he said "Whoa, whoa I didn't say I don't believe in God, I said I don't believe in religions" ?
I am only asking what is Maher's position on the existence or nonexistence of a Supreme Deity?
Perhaps you should watch his movie " Religulous" or his weekly show. It's on tonight on HBO.

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#13 Apr 10, 2009
hmm wrote:
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"quoted correctly". So is correct to conclude that Maher meant "I believe in God but not in religions" when he said "Whoa, whoa I didn't say I don't believe in God, I said I don't believe in religions" ?
I am only asking what is Maher's position on the existence or nonexistence of a Supreme Deity?
I suggest you take his words for his words and nothing more. You're creating something out of nothing.
hmm

Seattle, WA

#14 Apr 10, 2009
LowellGuy wrote:
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I suggest you take his words for his words and nothing more. You're creating something out of nothing.
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ar...

Bill Maher's own words:
“I'm not an atheist, though, because the belief that there is no God only mirrors the certitude of religion,” he says.“No, I'm saying that doubt is the only appropriate response for human beings.”

Let me draw attention to "I'm not an atheist" and "the belief that there is no God" and "only mirrors the certitude of religion"

Bill Maher says exactly how I have been saying it on this forum. He draws attention to that "atheism" is a belief, those are his own words!
hmm

Seattle, WA

#15 Apr 10, 2009
madscot wrote:
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Perhaps you should watch his movie " Religulous" or his weekly show. It's on tonight on HBO.
He is not on your atheist side:

Bill Maher said:
“I'm not an atheist, though, because the belief that there is no God only mirrors the certitude of religion,” he says.“No, I'm saying that doubt is the only appropriate response for human beings.”

“What, me worry?”

Since: Mar 09

I'm a racist caricature!

#16 Apr 11, 2009
hmm wrote:
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http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ar...
Bill Maher's own words:
“I'm not an atheist, though, because the belief that there is no God only mirrors the certitude of religion,” he says.“No, I'm saying that doubt is the only appropriate response for human beings.”
Let me draw attention to "I'm not an atheist" and "the belief that there is no God" and "only mirrors the certitude of religion"
Bill Maher says exactly how I have been saying it on this forum. He draws attention to that "atheism" is a belief, those are his own words!
And what you suggested is that we should interpret his doubt as belief in God.
nina

Canada

#17 Apr 11, 2009
LowellGuy wrote:
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And what you suggested is that we should interpret his doubt as belief in God.
he says clearly at the end of religulous that doubt is the only logical position

it's not leaning to one side or the other
WhatABunchOfMowo ns

Mesa, AZ

#18 Apr 12, 2009
hmm wrote:
I see most of you missed the point of the video clip and what I was asking.
Bill Maher said "Whoa whoa, I didn't say I don't believe in God, I said I don't believe in religion". He said that in that videoclip, I always had the impression that Maher didn't believe in the existence of God or a deity.
Well if he is striking primarily Christianity and slightly Islam, but never Judaism. That is what is troubling me, how can you be anti-religion when you are selective of the religions you criticise?
Is it wrong to criticise Judaism?
1) I imagine his references are based on context - in America, he predominantly speaking to Christians, who, also talk about Muslims because of 9/11. Muslims are considered in america to be the most 'die hard' in their religion - tho, I would argue against that.

2) Do we walk into stores having Hanukkah sales in December - no, they are Christmas sales. The point being, in America - Christians are the majority. He may have a very different dialog in Israel... I dont know.

3) you tube clips are edited in length and do not always give full context - yes, I have heard him criticize jews too - but, that is a HUGE NO NO in America, you get labeled 'anti-semetic' when you criticize too harshly. So, he needs to be cautious if he wishes to continue being a public figure, and it makes sense that he concentrates his criticisms on 'the locals and their nemesis'
WhatABunchOfMowo ns

Mesa, AZ

#19 Apr 12, 2009
hmm wrote:
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He is not on your atheist side:
Bill Maher said:
“I'm not an atheist, though, because the belief that there is no God only mirrors the certitude of religion,” he says.“No, I'm saying that doubt is the only appropriate response for human beings.”
The believers have changed the definition of atheism to vilify atheism - the *real* definition of atheism is 'with out belief in god'- NOT 'certainty there is no god'.
Seems they have a distorted view of agnosticism too - they seem think 'they believe in some kind of god, just not what the bible describes'- instead of the more proper definition describing 'unknowable'.

I think BM is following along with the believers distorted definitions of these terms, and thus why he explains his views instead of relying on some singular term to describe them.

And he states what the 'most logical' way to think, he doesn't really say how he does think, it may not go 100% with 'logic'. Any 'belief' has some 'illogical' thought.
hmm

Seattle, WA

#20 Apr 12, 2009
WhatABunchOfMowons wrote:
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The believers have changed the definition of atheism to vilify atheism - the *real* definition of atheism is 'with out belief in god'- NOT 'certainty there is no god'.
Seems they have a distorted view of agnosticism too - they seem think 'they believe in some kind of god, just not what the bible describes'- instead of the more proper definition describing 'unknowable'.
I think BM is following along with the believers distorted definitions of these terms, and thus why he explains his views instead of relying on some singular term to describe them.
And he states what the 'most logical' way to think, he doesn't really say how he does think, it may not go 100% with 'logic'. Any 'belief' has some 'illogical' thought.
Thanks for noticing that I wasn't talking about atheism or agnosticism but about Bill Maher and you further went onto describe your view of Bill Maher's position/view/opinion/logic etc instead of just trying to defend "atheism or agnosticism"
Just like you said, "He explains his view" which whether it falls inline with a majority of atheists/agnostics or not are still his views.
The title of my thread is "Bill Maher believes in God?" the "?" is asking a question because from that clip as well as from his interviews, I am under the assumptiong that he is a believer of Deity hence a Deist and NOT a believer of religion hence NOT a THEIST!
The thing is , I think the definition of "Atheism" is NOT the same as the definition of "Adeism". Deism is the Belief in Deity, many Atheists claim to Lack Belief in a Deity however they label themselves as "Atheists" which means "Lack of belief in religion".

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