Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#208000 Jan 25, 2014
Better to talk with a sober cannibal than a drunken christian.

Since: Dec 12

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#208001 Jan 25, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>He white-sheeted you and you appealed it?
Wow you are more desperate for Internet friends then they thought

Anybody with an ounce of sf-respect would laugh I someone's face (figuratively speaking) if some fork hypocrite who names things after himself told them he was shunning them

But you are trying to kiss a lot of asses at once and putting in a lot of energy to your new persona of the 2 month long anti-Christian despite talking like someone who has always been against faith. I guess your figured what's one more ass right?

You appealed

So pathetic
This post of yours is awesome.

Of course I don't expect you to understand that a person can realise they've done the wrong thing to another, feel remorse and apologise.

He was much more forgiving and gracious than any christian here as well.

Since: Jan 11

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#208002 Jan 25, 2014
River Tam wrote:
Hasn't everybody? It's the greatest work of fiction since the Bible.
How does it compare to Misfits?

I just started watching.

Since: Dec 12

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#208003 Jan 25, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text>Well i see you have taken the low road and resorted to personal attacks. Your mental capacities come off as impaired tonight.
That's nothing new but don't you indulge in personal attacks as well?

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#208004 Jan 25, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, slavery is wrong. You wouldn't want to be a slave, ergo you should not enslave others. It really is as simple as that.
Why? Do you think slavery isn't wrong? Your holy book says it isn't.
"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
Abraham Lincoln

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#208005 Jan 26, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
How does it compare to Misfits?
I just started watching.
You have to be ready for anything when you watch Misfits. Don't give up on it. It just gets better and better. I liked seasons 4 and 5 the best.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#208006 Jan 26, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> You won't find the Bible in the fiction part of Barnes and Nobel but you will find Don Quixote along with Gone With The Wind and Atlas Shrugged.These are three of my favorites. No, not everybody has read Don Quixote but they are the ones who miss out.
I particularly liked Lord of the Flies and The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. I've never read Atlas Shrugged. Do you recommend it?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#208007 Jan 26, 2014
mtimber wrote:
I have given you an explanation and shown you that your biased interpretation of the text is not the absolute interpretation that is required.
You just made the list:

REASONS GIVEN ON TOPIX WHY SKEPTICS AREN'T QUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON THE BIBLE

[1] I took the scripture out of context. It means something other than what it says (context and implied meaning never supplied).
[2] I don't understand literary criticism
[3] It's an allegory, not literal.
[4] It's literal, not an allegory.
[5] Scripture is only transparent to those with a child's perspective
[6] Scripture is only transparent to biblical scholars
[7] I am not filled with the Holy Spirit
[8] That's the mystery of it all. "God works in mysterious ways"
[9] Man's mind is too puny to grasp the immensity of God's truth and justice.
[10] You were obviously never a "true christian"
[11] You don't have enough faith. You have to believe to understand.
[12] You can’t criticize the bible because you don’t believe or understand it.
[13] Why do we think we can pretend to know God?
[14] Scripture always interprets scripture
[15] Ever heard of biblical hermeneutics?
[16] You are not TRULY with truth and sincerity seeking God.
[17] You have to know how to translate Hebrew and Greek
[18] You are using a completely unsupportable transliteration of Scripture
[19] You have clearly not studied the ancient peoples who wrote those things or you would not come up with the conclusions you have.
[20] It takes humility to understand the Bible
[21]“Stop scripture mining."
[22] You have to be familiar with the technical terminologies in the bible before you can comprehend it.
[23] Even Satan can quote scripture.
[24] In any other field, like medicine, engineering, technology, electronics, software, computer, unless you have qualifications and experience, you are not allowed to open you mouth.
[25] You have no reference in the knowledge of God to know our experience in Christ Jesus. The Word has to be embedded in one's heart, and that can come from God only.
[26] You're asking me to give you a four year bible study course on Topix?
[27] Dont fall in the trap of being a one verse wonder. You need to understand the passage and true meaning of the verse.
[28] You're only making a fool out of yourself trying to argue over something that you are not Blessed to understand.
[29] When you read scripture, one has to discern WHO that particular verse was written to..The believer or the Non believer. If we cant understand that then YES, the bible would seem to be very contradicting.
[30] A doctor, lawyer, scientist, or engineer are so used to reading their professional documentation literally, that metaphor, allegory, parables, hyperbole, and analogies are like another language unto themselves.
[31] You are not bright or educated enough to spew against Bible
[32] I would question the person who thinks that you understand even one page of any Bible. Without first learning the language how could you.
[33] Your arguments are so full of errors and misconceptions I don't even wanna touch it.
[34] You and others like you can't understand because you're not permitted to unless/until you repent and confess Christ as LORD.
[35] The power of the gospel is designed to frustrate the wisdom of the wise.
[36] It's so damn cute when atheists reach for their Bible to make their point. I love it!
[37] Your biased interpretation of the text is not the absolute interpretation that is required.

Yet we go on interpreting the words anyway, just as was intended by whomever first spoke or wrote them.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#208008 Jan 26, 2014
mtimber wrote:
What is interesting however is that you are making moral judgements about God, yet you deny God.
Why is that interesting? We judge your entire theology.
mtimber wrote:
Without God, as revealed in Christ, you have no basis for morality, you have no basis where you can account for morality.
You meant Zeus, right? There is no basis for morality without Zeus. Of course, Jesus may be Zeus. Their names are nearly identical, like John, Juan, Sean, Jean, Ian, and Giovanni.
mtimber wrote:
please account for absolute moral standards.
Where? Where do you see absolute moral standards? We change them whenever we learn more.

So do you. The whole Jesus thing is an update. You do know what the "New" in "New Testament" means, don't you?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#208009 Jan 26, 2014
mtimber wrote:
what empirical evidence do you have that matter can spontaneously create life and even more absurd "mind"?
What do you care? You don't require it to believe. Your beliefs are faith based. Why don't you have faith that matter can spontaneously create life and mind?

Since: Dec 12

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#208010 Jan 26, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>You just made the list:

REASONS GIVEN ON TOPIX WHY SKEPTICS AREN'T QUALIFIED TO COMMENT ON THE BIBLE

[1] I took the scripture out of context. It means something other than what it says (context and implied meaning never supplied).
[2] I don't understand literary criticism
[3] It's an allegory, not literal.
[4] It's literal, not an allegory.
[5] Scripture is only transparent to those with a child's perspective
[6] Scripture is only transparent to biblical scholars
[7] I am not filled with the Holy Spirit
[8] That's the mystery of it all. "God works in mysterious ways"
[9] Man's mind is too puny to grasp the immensity of God's truth and justice.
[10] You were obviously never a "true christian"
[11] You don't have enough faith. You have to believe to understand.
[12] You can’t criticize the bible because you don’t believe or understand it.
[13] Why do we think we can pretend to know God?
[14] Scripture always interprets scripture
[15] Ever heard of biblical hermeneutics?
[16] You are not TRULY with truth and sincerity seeking God.
[17] You have to know how to translate Hebrew and Greek
[18] You are using a completely unsupportable transliteration of Scripture
[19] You have clearly not studied the ancient peoples who wrote those things or you would not come up with the conclusions you have.
[20] It takes humility to understand the Bible
[21]“Stop scripture mining."
[22] You have to be familiar with the technical terminologies in the bible before you can comprehend it.
[23] Even Satan can quote scripture.
[24] In any other field, like medicine, engineering, technology, electronics, software, computer, unless you have qualifications and experience, you are not allowed to open you mouth.
[25] You have no reference in the knowledge of God to know our experience in Christ Jesus. The Word has to be embedded in one's heart, and that can come from God only.
[26] You're asking me to give you a four year bible study course on Topix?
[27] Dont fall in the trap of being a one verse wonder. You need to understand the passage and true meaning of the verse.
[28] You're only making a fool out of yourself trying to argue over something that you are not Blessed to understand.
[29] When you read scripture, one has to discern WHO that particular verse was written to..The believer or the Non believer. If we cant understand that then YES, the bible would seem to be very contradicting.
[30] A doctor, lawyer, scientist, or engineer are so used to reading their professional documentation literally, that metaphor, allegory, parables, hyperbole, and analogies are like another language unto themselves.
[31] You are not bright or educated enough to spew against Bible
[32] I would question the person who thinks that you understand even one page of any Bible. Without first learning the language how could you.
[33] Your arguments are so full of errors and misconceptions I don't even wanna touch it.
[34] You and others like you can't understand because you're not permitted to unless/until you repent and confess Christ as LORD.
[35] The power of the gospel is designed to frustrate the wisdom of the wise.
[36] It's so damn cute when atheists reach for their Bible to make their point. I love it!
[37] Your biased interpretation of the text is not the absolute interpretation that is required.

Yet we go on interpreting the words anyway, just as was intended by whomever first spoke or wrote them.
Brilliant.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#208011 Jan 26, 2014
River Tam wrote:
I'm not a big fan of Chris Christie but I applaud him and the newly elected AG of Virginia. Opposing same sex marriage is not a battle you can win. Cut your losses and get on with your business. Tell the fundies, "Hey, you lost this one. Let's refocus on those Indian Casinos !!!!! We'll show those heathen redskins"
Same sex marriage legalization and easing the War on Pot are the two great victories of reason and compassion - the twin engines of humanist ethics - over the methods and values of Western religion in this era. Life is getting better for two huge swaths of humanity.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#208012 Jan 26, 2014
River Tam wrote:
He didn't say you wrote the quoted passage.
Are you saying you didn't post that?
It's possible that he didn't. Sometimes I first see a post in the quote section above a response to it. If I respond the the quote part at the top rather than the response below it, I'll copy the quote, hit the reply button, inset the quote between the generated tags, and hopefully, not forget to change the name from that of the responder to whomever posted the upper section. The Scott Lively stuff may have come out of a post that Clearwater responded to, perhaps one from Buck. Clearwater may be correct that he didn't post that, and I may have inadvertently implied that he did in the way I just described - I'm not sure. If that happened, I apologize.

Of course, my comment was about Scott Lively, not at whomever brought his glowing character reference of Barton to this thread.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#208013 Jan 26, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Are you human or software?
mtimber wrote:
Can you answer the question?
No, and neither can you.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

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#208014 Jan 26, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Same sex marriage legalization and easing the War on Pot are the two great victories of reason and compassion - the twin engines of humanist ethics - over the methods and values of Western religion in this era. Life is getting better for two huge swaths of humanity.
There is still a battle. Ginsberg is 80. Scalia, Breyer and Kennedy are pushing 80. The makeup of the SCOTUS will change in short order. I don't trust the electorate to make wise decisions. I mean, look at Bush. I'm sure he's a nice man but he had no business running a country.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#208015 Jan 26, 2014
mtimber wrote:
So where do you get absolute moral standards from
Nowhere. No such thing is known to exist.

By the way, you asking this question repeatedly after it's been answered repeatedly is why you are indistinguishable from a mechanism.
mtimber wrote:
Your own opinion does not count as a transcendent source by the way.
Why not? My answers transcend your Magic 8-Ball quality of answer.
uidiotracemakewo rldpeace

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#208016 Jan 26, 2014
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
The alpha males ruled. What they believed, including in the spiritual, was what it was. A theocracy.
You go back a ways and there was a fine line between growing into a full grown and functional family member and being dinner for it.
Fitting in with the local establishment was an evolutionary advantage.
U mean you alpha male pyscopaths that ruin society with you warring religious fundamentalism idealogy and ruin nations! Man you evil ! abhahahaaa

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#208017 Jan 26, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
From what he writes, I'm thinking lightbeamrider must have had a real struggle deciding he was heterosexual. He must have been so very tempted to play for the other team.
I wonder...

Since: Sep 11

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#208018 Jan 26, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
That thing that answers your prayers.
lol

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

New Holland

#208019 Jan 26, 2014
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you told your son that you'd kill him if god asked you too?
More importantly, have you told the police?
Jeez….
If it happened today, Isaac would have been taken away by welfare after that incident. You'd hope so, anyway.

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