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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Game Over”

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#207964 Jan 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. I'd prefer you remove it ..
Can I keep the boots on?

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#207965 Jan 25, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>What paranoia?
.. nobody is stalking you, especially me ..
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>What paranoia?
I addressed a single post because once again you are throwing around the word terrorism
.. because emotional terrorism is serious stuff. I find threatening someone with eternal flames or demanding someone kill their child unacceptable ..
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>What paranoia?
I will agree to stick to the subject and not make it personal.
.. that would be nice. Your take on homosexuality is commendable and I really enjoy reading those posts ..
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>What paranoia?
But I'm not agreeing to sit silent as you bash my faith with bullshit claims. And while I don't always feel motivated to refute stuff, the promise never to with anyone is a promise I won't make
.. bash your faith? Because we look at emotional terrorism differently ??..
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#207966 Jan 25, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope, it's just a lesson that you should have already learned on your own. Your god isn't in charge here and neither are your preachers.
You don't get to choose what rights you get to enjoy at the expense of my rights anymore.
So sorry. You can still reminisce about the good ole days. Enjoy.
The Preamble of the constitution says,“We the people”

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Sorry to disappoint you Tam. But….. I….. is one of the…..“We the people.”

And that's a lesson you should have already learned.[tipping hat]

Since: Jun 12

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#207967 Jan 25, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text> 1) I never said one validated the other. I said if the argument is gay marriage doesn't add to society because they don't have kids then that would have to be the standard applied to straight couples who marry and don't have kids
No it does not. It only has to be male female who are eligible to marry. That is a shift on burden of proof. Nobody advocates regulating marriage to only fertile couples because gays cannot have children.
2) Burden of proof? What exactly do you think has to be proved and to whom exactly?
The burden of proof is on those who want to legalize SSM in States where it is illegal.
You mentioned earlier, more marriages more divorce and more business for lawyers and i am paraphrasing from memory. Excellent point. That gives that group incentive to legalize SSM. They tie SSM to a civil right. Putting dissenters in the same category as opposition to the civil rights of blacks and minorities. These are legitimate civil rights because skin color, is morally neutral while Homosexual conduct is morally questionable to say the least. It is a con job. Opposition groups are homophobic which is vilifying. SSM is not the equivalent of OSM. In human history the majority report has always been OSM.
3) Again, not the point that irresponsible patents validates gay marriage. But if hetro couples having kids is a benefit to society, that certainly can't include the crappy parents who are putting killers out on the street or uneducated, unemployable kids
Two wrongs do not make a right.
4) Sure 100% of kids came from male and female sperm. What's your point?
Bodies designed that way for a purpose. Hetero marriage sets a foundation for children to know their parents and be known by them. Two mommies does not equal one biological dad. In that sense marriage is child centered and in line with human biology.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#207968 Jan 25, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not about children, and you know it.
You're just a bigot.
Admit it.
You might want to broaden your understanding of the definition of bigot to include the religious intolerant. Because the official definition does include the religious intolerant.

I'm not going to be a rude dog and call you a bigot. We all know what you are.[tipping hat].
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#207969 Jan 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. pure, unadulterated rubbish ..
<< HL white sheet drops on Eagle >>
Who give a red hair rats *ss about your white sheet?

I certainly don't.

Since: Jun 12

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#207970 Jan 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. when some of my relatives visited in September, they left two Miller Genuine Draft ..
.. finally getting around to drinking them ..
.. and, yes, I prefer wine ..
.. didn't you know I'm a sophisticated lady with discriminating tastes ??..
Well then i was right about you all along. Don't strike me as the beer and chips type.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#207971 Jan 25, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Can I keep the boots on?
.. are they spiked ??..

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#207972 Jan 25, 2014
Skumbucketbully being the perfect poster boy for the christian cult; a montage.
Original WSJLM 2014

Post #613914

Skombolis wrote:

You are out of your freaking mind and you are a blatant liar. You want to bring up other things so then I guess we will keep talking

First you tried to say I should have asked you what you meant by your post and acted like i assumed wrong

Then you moved from that lie to claiming you simply disagreed with an opinion of mine

Then you moved from that lie to claiming you did it in defense of mac because i called him effeminate. Oh boo hoo for mac. But at least you finally got around to a version you could pretend was the truth. And your revisionist history on the past is freaking insane that I'm not gonna go thru it all again to correct it.

*I know you won’t go through it, of course you won’t expose yourself as a liar, it’s ok, I’m happy to do it for you*

And you are the queen of narcissism. Do you know what kind of insane narcissist posts that people who just lost loved ones don't deserve special dispensation because everybody has bad things happen to them? Which was after you seemed quite defensive about people saying it must take quite a loser to negative icon posts of someone who just lost a loved one

But that is narcissism to a T. You sit on your pity-pot all day and are so freaking bitter and self-centered and filled with hate that you have to icon posts of people who are suffering and then claim why should they get special treatment? Do you know what that says? It says you don't think anybody gave you the sympathy you deserved for all your many woes so you hate seeing others get sympathy, to the point that you try to crap on it and then justify it by claiming people who just lost loved ones don't get special dispensation.

*that’s not what I said and I’m ok with sharing my experiences with the world, it’s not about me anymore but you are free to pity anyone you like. it was never about “special dispensation” with you, it was about me not disagreeing with you publicly, the second I did, you started attacking, then crying when you realised your imbecilic bully tactics didn’t work on me. you calling anyone narcissistic is laughable*

You actually managed to annoy me, which is very hard to do on this place. But when someone flips the fuck out and goes on an anti-Christian rampage because someone suggested she take responsibility for herself, it is quite clear that person has mental problems. So I tried and tried and tried to stay patient with you and your psycho random insults. But like i have come to discover with people like Shrink, and Doc Reality and John Jaws, that yes they may be crazy but they are also assholes. And at some point the former stops mattering when the latter is the cause of their problems. But lesson learned. No more special dispensation for you.

*most of this is pure invention but he won’t provide the posts I made because he knows that, it’s ok, I’ll provide them eventually, that’s how he makes his posts so long, he adds fiction and slander*

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

“Hard to annoy” Skom? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH A!
me.

Post #613972

Skombolis wrote:

You are not an honest person.

It has been explained to you repeatedly that our goal is to strive for perfect obedience and that when we remain in Christ that He will forgive us when we fail to do so

But you don't believe Christians need to follow the teachings of Christ so I guess it doesn't matter.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

LMFAAO!- me

TO BE CONTINUED....
(his posts are as long as they are dishonest)

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#207973 Jan 25, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Nobody advocates regulating marriage to only fertile couples because gays cannot have children..
.. since when ??..

Since: Mar 09

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#207974 Jan 25, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Personal information I’m going to refrain from answering.
I’ll just say this, there’s millions of kids that have their homes busted up because of divorce. They end up living with people that they don’t like. The kids didn’t have choice but the courts did.
So they’re forced to live in squalor. Where they are repeatedly abused. Some kids are saved from this and removed from the homes and put up for adoption. But by far the most are not removed. They go through life being hated.
As Tam stated earlier most adoptive parents want babies. Older kids that have been abused could be more than a handful so they are passed over. Adoptive parents don’t want that. You are mistaken to believe SSM couples will be any different.
SSM adopting parents will not be the cure all end all as you are eluding too. What will be an issue is who gets the babies. The SSM couples or heterosexual couples?
I’m not saying gay couples will turn kids gay because I don’t know. I am saying kids raised up in this environment are going to have some serious mental issues. Kids are already fragile enough as it is. We don’t have a hundred thousand year history of SSM couples raising adoptive kids do we?
i don't see how it'd personal information to say whether anonymous poster Eagle 12 has adopted any kids. But regardless, it wouldn't matter if you had really as what right is it of yours to say kids who still need to be adopted should stay in foster care instead of going to a home where people love them because the parents are gay?

And I never suggested it would be a cure-all

And gay couples may be particular who they adopt to. Or maybe less so given the difficulty people try to create over them adopting. Either way, more kids will be adopted if gay couples adopt

And even one kid getting stuck in foster care because people who aren't doing shit for that particular kid happen to be against gay people adopting is one kid too many

And I would think anybody that had any first-hand knowledge of the foster care system would feel the same way unless forcing their ideology on a kid is more important to them than the kids themselves. And at care minimum, the argument that people are against it out of concern for thx environment the kid grows up in simply has no merit. There is no way someone could argue a kid is better off info dyer care than with two people that love them no matter what their orientation
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#207975 Jan 25, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Edit
And when you say "our" kids what do you mean by that?
Are you suggesting other people are not part of society where only people against gay marriage should be considered 'society'?
And what gave you done personally that you feel you can claim ownership?
And if you are concerned about the environment they are raised in, what have you done to get 'your' kids out of foster care?
Have you ever even bothered to visit a state foster agency to see the deplorable conditions 'your' kids are stuck growing up in?
And when you say "our" kids what do you mean by that?

A: Me’s kids

Are you suggesting other people are not part of society where only people against gay marriage should be considered 'society'?

A. We the People…

And what gave you done personally that you feel you can claim ownership?

A. Me’s pay a sh*t load of taxes.

And if you are concerned about the environment they are raised in, what have you done to get 'your' kids out of foster care?

A. I raised Me’s kids myself with my wife.

Have you ever even bothered to visit a state foster agency to see the deplorable conditions 'your' kids are stuck growing up in?
&#65532;

A. I raised Me’s kids. I had close family that worked in foster care. And that foster home was far from being deplorable.

[tipping hat]

Since: Mar 09

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#207976 Jan 25, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> No it does not. It only has to be male female who are eligible to marry. That is a shift on burden of proof. Nobody advocates regulating marriage to only fertile couples because gays cannot have children.
<quoted text> The burden of proof is on those who want to legalize SSM in States where it is illegal.
You mentioned earlier, more marriages more divorce and more business for lawyers and i am paraphrasing from memory. Excellent point. That gives that group incentive to legalize SSM. They tie SSM to a civil right. Putting dissenters in the same category as opposition to the civil rights of blacks and minorities. These are legitimate civil rights because skin color, is morally neutral while Homosexual conduct is morally questionable to say the least. It is a con job. Opposition groups are homophobic which is vilifying. SSM is not the equivalent of OSM. In human history the majority report has always been OSM.
<quoted text> Two wrongs do not make a right.
<quoted text> Bodies designed that way for a purpose. Hetero marriage sets a foundation for children to know their parents and be known by them. Two mommies does not equal one biological dad. In that sense marriage is child centered and in line with human biology.
I honestly don't even know where to start

So did you think slaves had the burden of proof to show why they should be free men in the states where slavery was legal?

Did women have the burden of proof to show why they shouldn't be able to vote?

Being illegal isn't synonymous with being wrong

And even if you don't think people are born gay, so what? Nobody needs your permission to marry based on their legal, consenting, adult sexual relationships. Some straight couples like to piss and crap on each other or choke each other or engage in S&M or swinging. How does what someone chooses to do sexually have anything to do with whether they should be allowed equal rights?

Rights that marriage gives straight people like spousal privilege, tax breaks, citizenship, etc

And who cares about who is a biological dad? The only thing that matters is whether they are a good parent. Not where their sperm went. And any kid is better off with 2 loving gay parents than growing up in foster care

“Game Over”

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#207977 Jan 25, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Preamble of the constitution says,“We the people”
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Sorry to disappoint you Tam. But….. I….. is one of the…..“We the people.”
And that's a lesson you should have already learned.[tipping hat]
Let me teach you so that you may teach your children and best friends.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

We call that the Equal Protection Clause.

You "the people" do not get rights that I "the people" don't get. Get it?

Since: Mar 09

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#207978 Jan 25, 2014
To the whack job

I admit you recent insanity has me curious. What are you attempting to prove those posts show? The fact that I said I guess we will keep talking because you weren't dropping it shows that was not out first exchange and also shows I had tried igniting you but your refusal to keep going made me change my mind

You really are crazy

“Game Over”

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#207979 Jan 25, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. are they spiked ??..
Aren't they always? Nine inch okay?

Since: Mar 09

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#207980 Jan 25, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Who give a red hair rats *ss about your white sheet?
I certainly don't.
nobody has ever 'appealed' his white sheet

In fact I know a few ppl that would prefer it

He just lines to talk in 3rd person and name things after himself

I am still a little worked up over the adoption thing as I have ten foster sisters and know not only how bad the system is but what a difference a loving home can make

But that white sheet thing is stupid

Especially from someone who continues to lie about a poster abusing their child
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#207981 Jan 25, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>i don't see how it'd personal information to say whether anonymous poster Eagle 12 has adopted any kids. But regardless, it wouldn't matter if you had really as what right is it of yours to say kids who still need to be adopted should stay in foster care instead of going to a home where people love them because the parents are gay?
And I never suggested it would be a cure-all
And gay couples may be particular who they adopt to. Or maybe less so given the difficulty people try to create over them adopting. Either way, more kids will be adopted if gay couples adopt
And even one kid getting stuck in foster care because people who aren't doing shit for that particular kid happen to be against gay people adopting is one kid too many
And I would think anybody that had any first-hand knowledge of the foster care system would feel the same way unless forcing their ideology on a kid is more important to them than the kids themselves. And at care minimum, the argument that people are against it out of concern for thx environment the kid grows up in simply has no merit. There is no way someone could argue a kid is better off info dyer care than with two people that love them no matter what their orientation
You are making the assumption that SSM couples are going to exceptional parents in every situation. You and I know that’s not going to be the case. There’s very little history of SSM couples raising children.

Yet we are headed down this road and children are going to be hanging in the balance in this massive experiment on a grand scale. And when the outcome 20 years from now is more horrific than it is today. You can blame the people that are pushing this agenda.

Teen suicide rates are going to increase, illegal drug use is going to skyrocket, school dropouts will trend upward, and crime will show a spike, gang involvement will be even more prolific. But you and all the others will have gotten exactly what you wanted. A completion of the meltdown of the family unit.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#207982 Jan 25, 2014
Skombucketbully being the perfect poster boy for the christian cult; a montage.

WSJLM 2014

Post #614776

Skombolis wrote:(to Le_Le)

You are clearly drunk again

We did not have any private PM's over it

You butted into two very public exchanges going on in this room to state those conflicting opinions and start fights

And we never had any PM exchanges about child abuse. In fact the only exchange we had was on here when you suggested I cover for pedophiles because I am a Catholic

You are a sick and delusional person

For the new year, get professional help

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

(remember kiddies, always file away PM’s, especially if they are from loving christians like this one)

Post #614814

Skombolis wrote:

(to a new poster, one of king skombully’s paranoias, he is very intelligent, our dear skom, he thinks no new posters ever come to the highly advertised international forum called topix, he seems to also think that he is the only poster who is allowed to use aliases, classic paranoid projection)

Why hello "new" poster with an anonymous proxy

So you don't like Christians who are against homosexuality I see. Coincidentally we just had an anonymous proxy in here coming from the opposite view. From what one might even suggest is an exaggerated for effect negative Christian stereotype

But haters got to hate. It's a Topix games thing

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHA!-> me

Post #614815

Skombolis wrote:

The people who spend their Topix lives going around Topix hating them are going to be very disappointed to hear that. Although I got a hunch it won't even slow them down.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

“Do you own a mirror?”-> Seen is awesome.

Post #614832

Skombolis wrote:

I clicked on Top Stories the other day for the first time in I can't remember when and that guy's name was the last post in like a dozen rooms

I think that gives a pretty good idea of what we are dealing with here

Still, I agree it is sad. And i know what you mean when it passes the point where you even have energy left to be outraged because it has happened too many times. I think some people carry so much hate inside of them that they are toxic to the soul to even be around

But the one thing that helps that feeling of exasperation is reminding yourself that most people are not like that. Some people roam around like joy vampires and you can't let them succeed.

I have used similar examples for different analogies in the past but if some lunatic was under a freeway overpass shouting hate rhetoric would he pay him any attention or allow it to color your view of mankind in general? You just gotta compartmentalize when it comes to looking at people. And people like that you just put 'em in a box somewhere and try not to think about it.

Yes its important not to forget they are out there as things can get dangerous when we completely disregard the reality of how some people are as hate can be contagious. But these people can only take something from us that we give them. I actually need to keep that in mind much more often across the board

(T) Peace

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

SAYS THE BIGGEST LIAR/SLANDERER/GOSSIP/**CYBER BULLY** IN ALL OF TOPIX -> me

****

TO BE CONTINUED….
(his posts are as long as they are vile and dishonest)

Since: Mar 09

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#207983 Jan 25, 2014
Eagle
Having trouble with reply on phone so gonna respond here

Foster care is a joke

And even the best of foster care facilities is no substitute for a loving home

And I think you may be very confused on what rights you have by paying your taxes

This isn't about what you want. And if you aren't gonna adopt the kid, at least have the decency to not try to prevent other people that want to

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