Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck

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#207100 Jan 24, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
The only reason you think he's a homophobe is because he points out the homosexual sex is a sin.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Your whole argument is based on your belief that his prejudice is a fact, and he repeats it without overt anger. If you were told that all Christians are abominations by somebody who believed that it was a fact, you would be howling "bigot!"


Prejudice?!

If what he or I spout is prejudice, then it's prejudice against all sin.

Stop focusing so much on homosexuals.
How would you respond to my pointing out to you that the only reason that you thought that such a person was a bigot was because he pointed out that Christians are abominable? Would that make you feel differently about such a person? Of course not.
Correct. I'd let it go in one ear and out the other.

I certainly wouldn't be bitching and whining that some people think Christians are abominable.

You see, I'm not an atheist.
If you repeat church doctrine about homosexuality being sin, you are a homophobe.


Really?

What if I repeat church doctrine about lying? Am I a lyophobe?

What about stealing? If I ridicule thiefs am I a thiefophobe?
Calling somebody a "sinner" defamatory in the same way that calling them a criminal, traitor, idiot, liar, or slob is. It a declaration that someone is unacceptable because he or she falls below some minimal standard of decency. It obviously no defense that you think its true.
It also doesn't matter whether you agree. If you or anybody else propagates what others consider hateful and damaging ideas, you will be judged by them according to the effect of your words, not your state of mind..
G'head, judge away.

RiversideRedneck

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#207101 Jan 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:

How do you do that? Using blame, guilt or shame?
Actually, all three sound good.
What is it that you object to about seeing addicts as victims rather than perps?
They're not victims unless they're drugged by someone else.

Usually, that isn't the case.
What difference does it make except in the way that people feel about them?
It might help with less tolerance towards their drug habits.
One mindset leads to empathy, the other to harsh judgment. Do you think that there is a good reason to prefer the latter?


Absolutely.

Being a doc, haven't you seen the horrific results of people using drugs like meth or cocaine after just a few years?

Wouldn't it make sense to catch these people and lock them away for a time until their addiction breaks?

RiversideRedneck

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#207102 Jan 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Is sunlight evidence of sunlight or of a sun?
Sunlight.

Is a wake evidence of a boat or a wake?

RiversideRedneck

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#207103 Jan 24, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:

Hmmm
Maybe E=MC2 created Latinos then they used lightsabers to cut a hole in the fence and the US gub'ment got all pissed about it, fed them marijuana and created anti-marijuana laws.
I mean. That's just a guess, but I believe it has merit.
ChristineM wrote:
Why are some godbots always so childishly stupid?
Just mimicking your "E=MC2 proves that God can't be omnipotent" bullshit.

I thought you knew.

RiversideRedneck

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#207104 Jan 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You want a better explanation than that. Goddidit, right?
That seems more plausible that "nothing did it"...

RiversideRedneck

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#207105 Jan 24, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
Mendacious? You are too polite, Mongo.
Topix is a great classroom, huh?
I bet you didn't know the Pope is an atheist, God was disproven by E=mc^2, and dinosaurs had no DNA.
Those 3 revelations alone are worth your time here.
Did you catch this?

"blacklagoon wrote:
No, we stop at stop signs and red lights for purely selfish reason, so we don't get killed or injured."

For once, I'm at a loss for words.

Since: Sep 08

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#207106 Jan 24, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, DeadWood.
Snakes do not talk.
If the snake curls up in a circle, his length is infinite, right?
Bwahahahahahahahahha....
The Ouroboros is an archetype grossly misinterpreted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

Note all the fanciful and mystical aspects assigned to it.

Now look at it from a physical process view.

You know how a snake swallows. Look at the snake as a volume of mass and energy contracting itself to to it smallest possible dimension.

How much of itself can it swallow before it can't swallow any more? Can it it swallow more than that and just disappear if the energy necessary is supplied?

It represents a shrinking back to the point that it originated.

That snake is like an electrical current. Within the current is a powerful force that binds and tries to shrink. It is bipolarity trying to return to neutrality or a ground state.

That snake represents some physical and mathematical properties of this existence that are rather advanced for its age. The knowledge of the serpent.

RiversideRedneck

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#207107 Jan 24, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Of course I was being deceptive in that, I know the definition of add.

I was taking a cue from the Topix Atheist! handbook.
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
Deception is a christian trait, own it dude, take responsibility for your actions.
o.O

I did take responsibility....

"Of course I was being deceptive"

E=MC2 proves it.

RiversideRedneck

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#207108 Jan 24, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
Yes, you win little boy.
You're so smart!
I!m proud of you.
"I!m" ??

Counselor.......

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#207109 Jan 24, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Divinity Surgeon wrote, "
Deception is a christian trait, own it dude, take responsibility for your actions."

o.O

I did take responsibility....

"Of course I was being deceptive"

E=MC2 proves it.
Yeah but then you ruined it by blaming Atheists.

Since: Sep 08

La Veta, CO

#207110 Jan 24, 2014
If you get down to how something can exist, like this universe, using math and physical processes you can soon learn you can't make it out of nothing.

You can't assemble anything in a true void. It won't stick together. You can't even build a branch extending into it. It would suck everything you have into it, including the roots.

If you got down and carefully analyzed how this material world was created, or could be created, it is inescapably obvious it was within the confines of a larger existence or something that could be formed. Even the magical BBT required a pre-existing starting point of volume. That was a bud off a branch expanding, or a seed within a larger environment. But the expansion in neither case could be into a total void.

You can't make something out of nothing. Even a math formula.

Simple fact is this existence is within a larger presence.

Topix atheists will do their damndest to believe we appeared magically out of nothing.

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#207111 Jan 24, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Capisce.
You're not Biblically trained or educated.
<quoted text>
Oh. I've never seen it spelled that way, with the hyphen. Just "nth".
Oh, I see. One can only play if one has been indoctrinated.

Why don't you try to answer the challenge rather than trying to divert attention from the fact you can't.

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#207112 Jan 24, 2014
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah, a dissembling Gal who eats bacon sandwiches with a Jew on the british Riviera. Watching topix can be like watching someone squeeze a blackhead out.
Believing what Buck says is like believing Velveeta is real cheese.

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#207113 Jan 24, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Honey we are not interested in what you believe Darwinism to be nor your pedantic cherry picking and deliberately ignoring the evidence
What I sat point here is what Darwinism is actually defined as
As I said, 3 popes beats one archbishop every time.
Keep tryingÂ…
Buck has demonstrated that he is very good at parroting what the Discovery Institute says. He has bought their line of BS hook.line and sinker.

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#207115 Jan 24, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, DeadWood.
Snakes do not talk.
If the snake curls up in a circle, his length is infinite, right?
Bwahahahahahahahahha....
Yes. I agree, snakes do not talk. But the Bible claims there was this talking serpent, ya see, and he...

And serpent = snake, unless you believe Cecil was real.

BTW, Buck, you are always whining "I never said that. Show I said that!"

Well, here is a challenge for you Bucko...show where I ever said what you are claiming I said above. Put up or shut up.

<Actually, I don't expect Buck to either put up or shut up. He is very much a hypocrite, which is why he has no credibility. I can't fathom why Bongo grovels at Buck's feet.>

RiversideRedneck

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#207116 Jan 24, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
Who said dinosaurs had no DNA?
Blacklagoon.

Your fellow atheist and science worshipper says DNA didn't exist until it was discovered.

RiversideRedneck

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#207117 Jan 24, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
HL: this is what I'm talking about
Aw, y'all talk about lil ole me?

RiversideRedneck

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#207118 Jan 24, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Strange that you'd capitalize "science" as if it's a proper noun.....
Catcher1 wrote:
Excellent rebuttal.
You're such a smart boy.
That wasn't a rebuttal, that was a query.

Smart guy.

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#207119 Jan 24, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh, I see. One can only play if one has been indoctrinated.
Why don't you try to answer the challenge rather than trying to divert attention from the fact you can't.
Who are you to challenge?

There is more indoctrination behind your game of let's play challenger than any real intellect.

You seem to fancy yourself the Devil's advocate. Maybe for purposes of argumentation, Something you learned to do in high school or college discussions and associate with being smart.

You are in the real world now. This is not those little developing minds imitating intelligence games. What you think and do has lasting effects. Time for serious analysis on a level beyond what you are used to.

You should concentrate more of analyzing what is and less on playing "Oh, whaddabout". Get in the mode while you can.

RiversideRedneck

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#207120 Jan 24, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
Excellent rebuttal.
You're such a smart boy.
Why do you complain about me being a wiseass when half of your posts are equally wiseass-istical?

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