Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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#198774 Jan 4, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
On the sunbkect of global warming:

The eruption of "Krakatoa" caused "the year without a summer" proving that nature in a single day is far more powerful than all mankind put together over centuries.
So you are open to the idea of the biblical flood then?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#198775 Jan 4, 2014
mtimber wrote:
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If it is a moral absolute, then whether I follow it or not does not remove its moral obligation on me...
Like the moral absolute to "not allow a witch to live." ?

Do you feel you are responsible and should be remorseful because you don't murder witches ?

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#198776 Jan 4, 2014
mtimber wrote:
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God condemns homosexuality as it is an aberration that benefits no one.
But please explain what absolute moral standard you are currently appealing to when you say intolerance of homosexuality is absolutely morally wrong?
Are you not an atheist that holds there are no absolute moral standards? So why are you appealing to them?
Well, since you've never been able to prove that the god you worship is real (whichever one that is) why would his or her opinion on homosexuality be relevant?

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#198777 Jan 4, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>Like the moral absolute to "not allow a witch to live." ?

Do you feel you are responsible and should be remorseful because you don't murder witches ?
Gods judgement will come against all, did you know liars will be judged and condemned to death?

Are you against the idea of moral judgements and moral consequences?

Do you want judgement to be removed?

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#198778 Jan 4, 2014
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>Well, since you've never been able to prove that the god you worship is real (whichever one that is) why would his or her opinion on homosexuality be relevant?
You confuse your desire to suppress the truth with the idea there is no evidence.

Your suppression of truth means you are incapable of perceiving truth. Evidence will do nothing for you as you do not really want it.

Besides, every time you try to appeal to absolute moral standards, you reveal your knowledge of the God you deny...

RiversideRedneck

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#198779 Jan 4, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Amen.
Sleeping, or being unconscious, is being in the intelligent brain. It is fed by the senses - sight, sound, touch. It is the realm of comparison - judging yourself and others by comparing the two. It derives its owner's identity by the things around him.
I see a car, a house, a new power tool. I think I can get that, then that will be who I am. I will finally know who I am when I have the thing. Then we get it, and for a while we are content that we are that. Then it fades. "Is this all I am? I need to have something more."
The conscious man finds his identity in the deeper self. It is in between thoughts, away from the thinking head. Often it is in silence he finds it.
I think this is the secret of music. All music is spiritual. It turns off the thinking, turns on the feeling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =A6R6yvz_wKYXX
Woah.....

"Music turns off the thinking and turns on the feeling."

That's deep.

I dig it.

RiversideRedneck

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#198780 Jan 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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No. I don't like the advice or the name, but you're alright. In my circles, "redneck" is not a badge of honor as I suspect it is with you.
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I don't know why you think you know my motives, or why you think that I would lie about them. Your conclusion is based on nothing but faith. Let me show you how [1] reason and [2] evidence both contradict you.
[1] I told you that we didn't join the Rotary Club because they began meetings with a prayer and with the Pledge of Allegiance, which also contains a god mention, so why would I conceal my unwillingness to wish people a Merry Christmas if it was for the reason you suggest?
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
[2] Also, how about the evidence of your own eyes? Here are five posts that contradict you.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...
Now what do you think?
I think I'll have another coffee.

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#198781 Jan 4, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>Would that be Odin or Zeus ?

Each is attributed to quite different moral codes.
So those gods are omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent?

Which attributes are required for absolute moral standards to exist...

RiversideRedneck

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#198782 Jan 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I think so. I can't find a legitimate reason to be antagonistic to gay people for being gay. If you have that attitude and express it or act on it, you deserve to be criticized
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There is no benevolence or politeness in that belief, and sincere prejudice is not a virtue.
This is a social tug of war, with millions of people each exerting a little force pulling one way or the other. It will be settled according to the vector sum of the individual forces.
I'm pretty sure that the forces of genuine benevolence and politeness, with a measure of empathy, kindness, tolerance and justice thrown in, will prevail, but it will take decades.
I realize that many Christians consider my attitude about the Christian church to be blind hatred and bigotry, but I can't see any way to defend an institution that teaches people to think like that, however sincere they are. And doing so, along with many other things it does, makes the church expendable to me.
Throw in atheophobia, sexual guilting, science demeaning, misogyny, a war on reproductive freedom, and social divisiveness, and it's pretty hard not to want to see it diminished.
I don't expect believers to agree, since those are often their values, so they wouldn't see those things as harmful.
I don't see those things as being existent.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#198783 Jan 4, 2014
mtimber wrote:
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Gods judgement will come against all, did you know liars will be judged and condemned to death?
Are you against the idea of moral judgements and moral consequences?
Do you want judgement to be removed?
As soon as you prove your deity exists, I will consider its opinions as more than just words written in a book.

Have you sold all you have and given the money t the poor ?

No ? I didn't think you believed in it. It is just a tool for you to pretend to be better than others. IN reality, it just makes you a liar.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#198784 Jan 4, 2014
mtimber wrote:
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You confuse your desire to suppress the truth with the idea there is no evidence....
1. It isn't Truth
2. Where is this evidence you claim to have ?

RiversideRedneck

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#198785 Jan 4, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
RR says that cheating is always immoral. I'm saying there's no way to know that it's always wrong. If the definition of cheating dictates that harm is always done, I can see classifying it as immoral on that basis. Even if we go that far, a costs/benefits analysis may show that cheating will likely provide the best outcome compared to other available options.
Tell that to the kids of the horny 48 year old dad that abandons his family for the 26 year old secretary.

Tell them it's the best thing.

RiversideRedneck

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#198786 Jan 4, 2014
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. I find Topix fascinating because it gives me the opportunity to observe, to learn. Why do you enjoy Topix? Is there an ultimate goal? If so, what is it ??..
I just like watching the fishies scurry.

RiversideRedneck

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#198787 Jan 4, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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And so, we should make the most of life: broaden our horizons, treat others with dignity, help the weak, explore nature, share with friends and family, use our intellect to worthy ends, experience emotions.
The goal, as I see it, is to be fulfilled; to prepare for death in the knowledge that our life was lived well.
Socal's a good place to start, Buckaroo. Come on out--but no Fountain, please.
Ever been to the mile-long stretch of dog beach over in Huntington? We took Tyson there,'twas a blast.

Then went to Zack's taco stand by the pier. I highly recommend it.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#198788 Jan 4, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Doctor, don't play the same ole simple tune of Mary had a little lamb. Jazz it up my man.
Most often the "ole" tunes are the best, the one's that have stood the test of time and are played over and over by many different performers. These tunes never seem to get old, just like the acts of murder attributed by your God. It is astonishing that people like you actually worship a psychopathic killer and go to great lengths to justify his acts of murder, especially those of children and babies.

So you want me to "jazz" it up? Ok, how about God sending bears to tear to shreds some mischievous teenagers. Their crime for meeting such a grisly end? Mocking someones bald head, hows that for some Jazz on an ole theme?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#198789 Jan 4, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Doctor, the boys down the street where I lived as a kid had a monkey. They abused that poor animal by beating it with a stick. Until one day the monkey had enough of the beatings and grabbed the stick from one of them.
Then the monkey went on to teach those boys what it was like to be on the opposite end of the stick. That monkey whipped their ever loving *sses.
I always prefer civility but sometimes one must grab that stick and show the abuser what it’s like to get a good ole country *ss whipping. Don’t feel sorry for “Just Think,” cause his smart *ss has it coming to him.
I hope you enjoyed your vacation down South. We missed you,[tipping hat].
Yes, I do understand.

Thanks, Belize was great, two weeks of diving, sailing, and sleeping in the warm sun. Sure beat the shit outta this friggin cold!!

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

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#198791 Jan 4, 2014
mtimber wrote:
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If it is a moral absolute, then whether I follow it or not does not remove its moral obligation on me...
Oh I forgot. You haven't had a shave lately, I hope?

Leviticus 19:27
“‘Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#198792 Jan 4, 2014
mtimber wrote:
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So those gods are omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent?
Which attributes are required for absolute moral standards to exist...
1. According to their followers, yes. Just like you and your deity and everyone else's.

2. Neither. Having power and knowledge do not give one morals. UN;ess you consider Hitler to be very moral. too.

Kill any adulterers or witches lately ? You deity said you ar supposed to. Why are you so immoral ?

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Safety Harbor, FL

#198793 Jan 4, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ever been to the mile-long stretch of dog beach over in Huntington? We took Tyson there,'twas a blast.
Then went to Zack's taco stand by the pier. I highly recommend it.
Place here called Taco bus. Good eats!

RiversideRedneck

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#198794 Jan 4, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
Yep, you are still a moron.
Q.: "Are Chihuahuas dogs ?"
R.R: "No, they are Chihuahuas."
According to RR the French aren't Europeans and the Egyptians aren't Africans.
ROFLMAO
Get up off the floor, Ben. You're embarrassing.

Just like you called the French, "French" right?

hmmm

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