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“Ditat Deus”

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#198029 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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You really expect anyone to believe that has anything to do with avoidance of the Christmas greeting?
New Year's Day: 1 January
Solemnity of Mary, Mother of God: 1 January
Saint Basil's Day: 1 January
Twelfth Night: Epiphany Eve: 5 January
Epiphany: 6 January
Armenian Apostolic Christmas: 6 January
Imbolc: 1 February
Candlemas: 2 February
Hedgehog Day: 2 February
Lupercalial - 15 February
Valentine's Day: 14 February
Valentine's Day is a cultural and Christian holiday.

I can't wait to wish everyone a Happy Holiday this February 14th.

Don't wanna go insulting anyone, you know.....

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#198030 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I decided to copy some things people write. Here we go:
Skombolis wrote:
"And presidents are vetted so hard that fakes don't make it through the process."
Buck Crick wrote:
" Presidents are vetted so hard fakes don't make it through the process??
Are you nuts? They had Clinton on tape suborning perjury while he was running the first time!
He received an induction notice, and never reported.
That's not even considering the common knowledge of his whoring.
And he was so vetted, a fake could not get through?"
SkumBogus wrote:
"I mean you already gave a great example of how unpatriotic he is because he slept around on his wife."
Where is it, Skom?
It is right in there moron

"That's not even considering the common knowledge of his whoring."

You intentionally left out the post before it which talks about how a fake patriot couldn't get through the vetting process and that is what you responded to. Do you really need me to re-post it? You are going to a lot of trouble to get out of such an obvious lie. You can't possibly think its gonna work can you?

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#198031 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I decided to copy some things people write. Here we go:
Skombolis wrote:
"And presidents are vetted so hard that fakes don't make it through the process."
Buck Crick wrote:
" Presidents are vetted so hard fakes don't make it through the process??
Are you nuts? They had Clinton on tape suborning perjury while he was running the first time!
He received an induction notice, and never reported.
That's not even considering the common knowledge of his whoring.
And he was so vetted, a fake could not get through?"
SkumBogus wrote:
"I mean you already gave a great example of how unpatriotic he is because he slept around on his wife."
Where is it, Skom?
LOL

Here is the part of my post you responded to you lying dumbass

Skom wrote

"Nobody who simply wanted power or money would ever want to be a president. It is a terrible job and the people with real power and real money stay clear of public service. While some of the lower levels of public service are simply opportunists, nobody that takes public service all the way to the presidency does so without loving their country. And presidents are vetted so hard that fakes don't make it through the process."

It was about how someone who really didn't love their country wouldn't make it through the vetting process. To which you gave examples of what you though was him not being patriotic, including your mention of his whoring around

Can we stop playing now or do you wanna still try to keep this up?

“Ditat Deus”

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#198032 Jan 1, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Mao just didn't know how to farm.
Stalin lost a lot of people defending the land from the Christian Hitler. Millions dead because the Christian Hitler tried to invade Russia.
It was in service of Teh God.
Gott mit uns
Yep.
Then "In God We Trust" MUST mean that all Americans are Christians.

Or when our military swears an oath to God... They MUST be Christian, right?

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#198033 Jan 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Atta boy! Make sure everybody knows how victimized you feel - how unfair people are to criticize Christian homophobia.
Christians fear the extinct and extant species of humans?

If we were to make the ridiculous assumption that the term "homophobic" means anything,...

What term describes Christians who are not homophobic, but voice the opinion that homosexual sex is wrong or immoral?

How would such a person relate their view without being labeled "homophobic"?

That seems problematic. Is it not true that the phony term "homophobic" actually means nothing except a way to marginalize anyone who resists accepting homosexuality as acceptable on moral and religious grounds?

If so, then it is a term charged with moral judgement, which is the same activity implied as worthy of impugning by its usage.

“Ditat Deus”

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#198034 Jan 1, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
At least I don't beat my wife and children like you did.
I didn't beat my wife or children.

You're lying.

What's new.

At least I have the courage to not only raise my kids, but take full custody of them.

What did you do?

You ran.

Coward.

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#198035 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
OK.
World History.
Hope this is helpful.
You wanna' play games, I'll play.
I'm not sure you're up for it.



Roll Tide

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#198036 Jan 1, 2014
Eagle 12 wrote:
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I must admit one of my faults is not reading every post from everybody.
I ask for forgiveness.[taking hat off]
I have to admit, I wasn't sure how or if you would respond

I had read enough from you that I thought it was possible you hadn't read all the exchanges. I am glad that was case. I don't pretend to be anything I am not but at the same time I will almost always reply in kind. I start civil and never take it from there until someone else does. After that, well it becomes whatever it becomes

No forgiveness is necessary. Mistakes don't bother me. But thank you for asking.

(T) Peace

“Ditat Deus”

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#198037 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Christians fear the extinct and extant species of humans?
If we were to make the ridiculous assumption that the term "homophobic" means anything,...
What term describes Christians who are not homophobic, but voice the opinion that homosexual sex is wrong or immoral?
How would such a person relate their view without being labeled "homophobic"?
That seems problematic. Is it not true that the phony term "homophobic" actually means nothing except a way to marginalize anyone who resists accepting homosexuality as acceptable on moral and religious grounds?
If so, then it is a term charged with moral judgement, which is the same activity implied as worthy of impugning by its usage.
If a Smart Car was a Transformer, you think it'd be gay?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#198038 Jan 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Blessed be the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Blessed be his Son, Cheese's Crust, born of Mother Marinara. How grated thou art!
Blessed be He who has come to bring salivation to all men, who was brought down by the giant twirling fork and unceremoniously flung onto a wall where he dried for our sins.
Buck Crick wrote:
That reduces the discourse ...
I thought that it elevated the discourse. It's funny rather than angry or whiny.

Is anybody offended by it? Certainly not Eagle.He thinks that people are already too sensitive to people expressing themselves, especially good-hearted white folk like me..
Buck Crick wrote:
... and makes atheists appear unserious and snarky.
It's comedy, and yes, it is snarky. The Flying Spaghetti Monster was conceived in snark - a response to the Kansas School Board
http://www.venganza.org/about/open-letter/
Buck Crick wrote:
One day the zoo-keeper noticed that the orangutan was reading two books - the Bible and Darwin's Origin of Species. Surprised, he asked the ape, "Why are you reading both those books?" "Well," said the orangutan, "I just wanted to know if I was my brother's keeper or my keeper's brother."
That's clever.

“Turning coffee into theorems”

Since: Dec 06

Trapped inside a Klein Bottle

#198039 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
No. Everyone knows that is not the reason anyone says happy holidays.
The reason is the one holiday. They don't like the name.
Play games if you like, Deadwood.
LOL

Meet the new Buck, same as the old Buck. We won't get fooled again.

(Not that we were ever fooled in the first place.)

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#198040 Jan 1, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>It is right in there moron
"That's not even considering the common knowledge of his whoring."
You intentionally left out the post before it which talks about how a fake patriot couldn't get through the vetting process and that is what you responded to. Do you really need me to re-post it? You are going to a lot of trouble to get out of such an obvious lie. You can't possibly think its gonna work can you?
gggnope.

My post is a rebuttal to what you characterized as a "hard vetting process".

The serial adultery is part of several incidents I used to refute the hard vetting you alleged.

It says NOTHING about patriotism or lack thereof.

Then you said this:

Sombolis: "I mean you already gave a great example of how unpatriotic he is because he slept around on his wife."

You lied.

Do you want me to post the entire conversation again? I can.

And it will show exactly what I'm saying now, which is, that you are wrong in claiming the vetting process is so efficient, when Clinton is on tape suborning perjury, he recieved a draft notice but failed to report, and it was common knowledge he whored around. These were not sufficiently vetted while he was running for office, and if they had been, he would have likely been held as unfit for political high office.

Once again, here is your response to that:

Skombolis: "I mean you already gave a great example of how unpatriotic he is because he slept around on his wife."

You lied. In black and white.

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#198041 Jan 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Bongo's got that covered. He's the fighting patriot busy writing his Congressman, collecting signatures, or whatever it is that he imagines comprises fighting back. I expect that the democracy should be restored any day now.
Heh

Bob Dylan must have been foreshadowing the coming of Bongo when he wrote "Times They Are a Changing"

He probably wrote complains to the companies that make grocery store products too!

Not that I think it is a bad thing to write with a complaint to those in office. But one has to stay realistic about it. And i just have a feeling Bongo has a lot of time to kill and spends it trying to be contrarian or confrontational just to annoy people. He probably fights daily with the people from "I can't Believe Its Not Butter" over what belief means!

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#198042 Jan 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then "In God We Trust" MUST mean that all Americans are Christians.
Or when our military swears an oath to God... They MUST be Christian, right?
How thefuck would I know?

I was born in South Korea and still a citisen.

You'll have to work that out with the ever growing secular young people in "America".

BTW, do you include Canada and Argentina when you say Americans?

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#198043 Jan 1, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Oops.
Sorry, Skom. He got that on WSJLM.
No worries

I thought it was cute he thought he could emotionally manipulate two people smarter than him by using your words when we were fighting. I knew it would have no effect on our new peace. I did want to pat him on the head for even trying though! It was a bold effort for the little guy

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#198044 Jan 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
If a Smart Car was a Transformer, you think it'd be gay?
Why have you never showered with the other boys?

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#198045 Jan 1, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
gggnope.
My post is a rebuttal to what you characterized as a "hard vetting process".
The serial adultery is part of several incidents I used to refute the hard vetting you alleged.
It says NOTHING about patriotism or lack thereof.
Then you said this:
Sombolis: "I mean you already gave a great example of how unpatriotic he is because he slept around on his wife."
You lied.
Do you want me to post the entire conversation again? I can.
And it will show exactly what I'm saying now, which is, that you are wrong in claiming the vetting process is so efficient, when Clinton is on tape suborning perjury, he recieved a draft notice but failed to report, and it was common knowledge he whored around. These were not sufficiently vetted while he was running for office, and if they had been, he would have likely been held as unfit for political high office.
Once again, here is your response to that:
Skombolis: "I mean you already gave a great example of how unpatriotic he is because he slept around on his wife."
You lied. In black and white.
NO you are a liar

Which is why you intentionally broke off the sentence about the vetting and quoted it out of context so people could see what it was about

And I could go back further to show what post of yours I replied to but it isn't necessary

What was being talked about was his patriotism being vetted and you know it. it is why you gave the examples you did. You simply forgot you included your knee-jerk response about his whoring and then tried to call me a lair

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#198046 Jan 1, 2014
Edit:

So people could NOT see what it was about

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#198047 Jan 1, 2014
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>LOL
Here is the part of my post you responded to you lying dumbass
Skom wrote
"Nobody who simply wanted power or money would ever want to be a president. It is a terrible job and the people with real power and real money stay clear of public service. While some of the lower levels of public service are simply opportunists, nobody that takes public service all the way to the presidency does so without loving their country. And presidents are vetted so hard that fakes don't make it through the process."
It was about how someone who really didn't love their country wouldn't make it through the vetting process. To which you gave examples of what you though was him not being patriotic, including your mention of his whoring around
Can we stop playing now or do you wanna still try to keep this up?
ggggnope.

I gave examples of why your claim about the vetting process was wrong, and you were nuts for making the claim.

I even told you that was what I was doing in the response. TWICE!

Here it is:

Buck Crick wrote:

"Presidents are vetted so hard fakes don't make it through the process??

Are you nuts? They had Clinton on tape suborning perjury while he was running the first time!

He received an induction notice, and never reported.

That's not even considering the common knowledge of his whoring.

And he was so vetted, a fake could not get through?"
__________

If I had been arguing patriotism, why would I have started with suborning perjury?

That is illegal, but hard to argue as unpatriotic.

Now. Show me where I used Clinton's infidelity as an example of being unpatriotic.

Or admit you lied.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#198048 Jan 1, 2014
LuciFerr wrote:
Maybe "religious tolerance" wouldn't be so very laughable if things like this didn't happen;
http://www.10news.com/news/san-diego-woman-ca...
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/12/gay-couple...
Thanks for that, Juice.

This will likely result in two reactions: It will energize the faithful - make them more outraged and indignant, possibly emboldening them to take more stands like this in the future - and the bulk of the rest of us will see that response as petty and mean-spirited.

How can that possibly be good for the Christian community? In the past, they might have succeeded in demonizing and marginalizing gays more with such a reaction. Today, they risk doing that to themselves.

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