Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Oct 10

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#195130 Dec 22, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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I don't. But I think the people have a right to organize society and law around principles like one man and one woman in marriage, if that is their will, and it has been.
People may decide differently, and that's fine. I don't like judges deciding it.
That's what judges are for.

People may decide that certain people aren't to be afforded the protections that the Constitution demands. I can vote. I can marry a black man. I can't marry a black woman.

That must be rectified.

Since: May 10

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#195131 Dec 22, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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That's what judges are for.
People may decide that certain people aren't to be afforded the protections that the Constitution demands. I can vote. I can marry a black man. I can't marry a black woman.
That must be rectified.
The Constitution affords no protection for marrying the same sex.

The prohibition is equally applied to every person.

It's not a judge's job to say the Constitution says something it doesn't.

Since: May 10

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#195132 Dec 22, 2013
UndefeatedAtheist wrote:
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You still have provided no evidence that they killed because of a lack of belief
in a deity. Not a shred.
They didn't kill for a lack of belief. Atheism is not a lack of belief.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#195133 Dec 22, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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They didn't kill for a lack of belief. Atheism is not a lack of belief.
Why would I need to believe there is a deity or deities?

So far, I haven't ran across anything that convinces me or causes me to believe there is anything even similar to a deity.

How is it I "believe" there are no deities?

Since: Oct 10

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#195134 Dec 22, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
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The Constitution affords no protection for marrying the same sex.
The prohibition is equally applied to every person.
It's not a judge's job to say the Constitution says something it doesn't.
It affords no protection for marrying the opposite sex, either.

It affords me the right of equal protection. In other words, if you can lawfully marry a woman, so can I.

Would you deny me that right?
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#195135 Dec 22, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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So are the children of God according to Scripture.
Teh God will flood you out in a heatbeat.
Yes he will especially if you build on the beach at low tide in hurricane country.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#195136 Dec 22, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> That's not rape, it is more along the line of an arranged marriage where the female is elevated from slave to wife. She has a thirty day period to morn. These are non Hebrew POW females. If things do not work out she is free. That is through verse 14. That is the problem with your interpretation. You do not look at the whole picture and you ignore historical context. You take a couple verses and ignore everything else. Under that method one can take the Bible and use it to justify anything and they have. But the misuse of a thing does not invalidate its legitimate use. But you are obviously not interested in the proper use of Scripture. You are a hopeless Biblical illiterate who cannot even answer the easiest of questions. You commit anachronistic fallacy.
''Definition: Judging one time period by the standards, mores, truths, or customs of another time, or analyzing a time period as if later customs, information, or standards were known at that time.''
I think your mind is just to poisoned to actually learn anything. You insist on your errors. Its a learning disability.
They will never get it, never.

Since: Oct 10

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#195137 Dec 22, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Yes he will especially if you build on the beach at low tide in hurricane country.
http://www.hark.com/clips/ccgkzjpjgn-brownie-...

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#195138 Dec 22, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>Why would I need to believe there is a deity or deities?

So far, I haven't ran across anything that convinces me or causes me to believe there is anything even similar to a deity.

How is it I "believe" there are no deities?
Maybe in Buck world lack of belief is belief? Like a Thing.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#195139 Dec 22, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Yes he will especially if you build on the beach at low tide in hurricane country.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#195140 Dec 22, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>They will never get it, never.
We get that it's rape, we get that you approve of rape.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#195141 Dec 22, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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It affords no protection for marrying the opposite sex, either.
It affords me the right of equal protection. In other words, if you can lawfully marry a woman, so can I.
Would you deny me that right?
The controversy here is not so much same sex marriage and it has never been about same sex marriage. It’s about adopting children and raising children in non-traditional environments.

Have there been studies about the consequences of raising kids in homes of same sex partnerships? I’m talking about real scientific unbiased studies?

Now I know there are a lot of abusive and dysfunctional heterosexual marriages. In many cases it’s real bad. I’m not so sure same sex marriages will be any different in that respect.

Talk to law enforcement in any large city and they will tell you there’s a hell of a lot of gay partners in abusive and dysfunctional relationships. My concern is for children being raised outside the traditional marriage between heterosexuals.

What will be the physiological outcome for these teens? Will teen suicide rates soar even higher than what they are today because of same sex marriages? I’m afraid children will be the ones to suffer even more than they already suffer in bad heterosexual marriages.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#195142 Dec 22, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1cZUCH6KKt4XX
Sorry I couldn't view it because of my computer security.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#195143 Dec 22, 2013
LuciFerr wrote:
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We get that it's rape, we get that you approve of rape.
What we get is what you don’t get because if you hada got you wouldn’t be a standing there not getting, don’t ya see?

“That's just proof right there that us Haggens knows a heap more about some things than folks gives us credit for.”

Festus Haggen
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#195144 Dec 22, 2013
LuciFerr wrote:
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We get that it's rape, we get that you approve of rape.
Here’s the thing, you don’t understand a lot.

Dr. Galen `Doc` Adams:(Festus offers to buy Doc a beer with a silver dollar that he earned from shoeing horses in episode "Whelan`s Men".) Why don`t you take that money and invest it in something? Why don`t you do that?

Festus Haggen: Invest it in what?

Dr. Galen `Doc` Adams: There`s wonderful land values outside of Dodge. Now why don`t you go out there someplace, look around, and buy yourself a lot?
Festus Haggen: A lot of what?

Dr. Galen `Doc` Adams: A lot! A lot of land!

Festus Haggen: Well fiddle, I can`t afford to buy a lot of land. You probably could the way you`ve been a bilking and gouging...

Dr. Galen `Doc` Adams: Oh, hush up! I`m trying to help you, for heaven sakes. It don`t cost a whole lot to buy a little lot.

Festus Haggen: What do you mean it don`t cost a whole lot to buy a little, or a whole lot to buy a lot, what do you mean?

Dr. Galen `Doc` Adams: Well, I mean,... a little lot of land!

Festus Haggen: But there ain`t no such a thing. A little`s a little, and a lot`s a lot, there ain`t no little lot, or lot of little, don`t you see? Now you want that beer or don`t you?
Dr. Galen `Doc` Adams: No I`m... I`m all worn out.

Festus Haggen:(and as Doc walks away Festus Hollers) If you change your mind me and Newly will be over at the Longbranch having a whole lot of little beers.
(Chuckles and flips his silver dollar)

Festus Haggen: Now I`m buying.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#195145 Dec 22, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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What we get is what you don’t get because if you hada got you wouldn’t be a standing there not getting, don’t ya see?
“That's just proof right there that us Haggens knows a heap more about some things than folks gives us credit for.”
Festus Haggen
God will F*ck you up

Oh, sinner, do not stray
From the straight and narrow way
For the Lord is surely watching what you do
If you approach the Devil's den
Turn round don't enter in
Lest the hand of the almighty fall on you.

He'll f*ck you up (he'll f*ck you up)
Yes, God will f*ck you up
If you dare to disobey his stern command.
Hell f*ck you up (he'll f*ck you up)
Don't you know he'll fuck you up
So you better do some prayin' while you can.

Long ago a man named Lot
Had a wife he thought was hot
But she could not stop her black and sinful ways.
You know it was her own damn fault
When God turned that b!tch to salt.
Thats the way he used to work back in those days:

He f*cked em up (he f*cked em up)
He really f*cked em up
When the people went and turned their backs on him
He can f*ck you up (he'll f*ck you up)
No sh!t he'll f*ck you up
Just like he f*cked the people up back then.

I used to have a friend named Ray
Who walked that evil way
He cursed and drank and broke his neighbors fence
You know Ray was full aware
That some sheep were over there
And he knew them in the Biblical sense.

God f*cked him up (he f*cked him up)
He went and f*cked Ray up
Went and paid him back for all his wicked sins.
He f*cked him up (he f*cked him up)
F*cked that boy completely up
Now he's married to a Presbyterian.

Since: Oct 10

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#195146 Dec 22, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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The controversy here is not so much same sex marriage and it has never been about same sex marriage. It’s about adopting children and raising children in non-traditional environments.
Children just want to be loved, Eagle.

The controversy is yours.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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It’s about adopting children and raising children in non-traditional environments.
There are no traditional environments. Think outside your own box for once in you life.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Have there been studies about the consequences of raising kids in homes of same sex partnerships?
Yes, there have been studies and you won't accept them because they don't conform to your archaic way of thinking.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Now I know there are a lot of abusive and dysfunctional heterosexual marriages. In many cases it’s real bad.
It's real bad. I know the children of some of those.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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I’m not so sure same sex marriages will be any different in that respect.
I'm not either. What's your point?
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Talk to law enforcement in any large city and they will tell you there’s a hell of a lot of gay partners in abusive and dysfunctional relationships. My concern is for children being raised outside the traditional marriage between heterosexuals.
Heterosexual marriage is only "traditional" because you deny with laws any other form of marriage. You're scared shitless that your way of bullying people is coming to an end.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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What will be the physiological outcome for these teens?
Do you even know what physiological means?
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Will teen suicide rates soar even higher than what they are today because of same sex marriages? I’m afraid children will be the ones to suffer even more than they already suffer in bad heterosexual marriages.
Write a self help book for teens. They're killing themselves at an alarming rate as it is now. Change is necessary and inevitable.

Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#195147 Dec 22, 2013
River Tam wrote:
Brown was ill prepared for the devastation that hit New Orleans. President Bush failed in not having a professional Emergency Manager with experience heading FEMA. It wasn’t all Brown’s fault as some like to believe.

The local government and State of Louisiana was also not properly prepared. Disaster preparedness is often not taken seriously until after the fact.

Complicating the incident was many of New Orleans residents were indigent. Not being able to have their own evacuation plan. Thousands of school buses were flooded that could have been used to evacuate the poor prior to the storm hitting.

http://www.snopes.com/katrina/photos/buses.as...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#195148 Dec 22, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
What do you think of a philosophy that teaches one to divert her attention from this world to another one and from this life to the next one, to think of man as diseased with sin and capable of no good, to see animals as soulless meat bags put on earth to be dominated and exploited, and to think that the world he inhabits is corrupt, evil, getting worse every day, and fit for apocalyptic annihilation any day now? Is authentic spirituality possible given that world view?
Dave Nelson wrote:
Uh, that is the kind of philosophy that causes one to strive for more and evolve.
Yeah, that is EXACTLY what that philosophy did for the group that holds it. Striving to be more and evolving is what comes to mind when we think of Christianity and its worldview.

Yet another great insight from you, Dave.
Dave Nelson wrote:
The always looking for something better. How you strive to get off Tobacco Road. You have to look past the immediate for such to occur. You don't get those things by being a dope smoking intellectual.


There you go again with your anti-pot bias.

The problem with ending up on Tobacco Road addicted to tobacco yourself is that you really don't get to give life advice to anybody, do you?
Dave Nelson wrote:
BTW, since you are atheist you know animals are soulless meat bags. As are men. A major tenet of your "non-religion". You are less than consistent in your argumentation.
Please don't try to speak for me or other atheists. You don't know what we believe even after being told.
Dave Nelson wrote:
. Maybe that is because you just like to argue?
What is this post of yours if not content-free argumentation for the sake of arguing?
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#195149 Dec 22, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Children just want to be loved, Eagle.
The controversy is yours.
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There are no traditional environments. Think outside your own box for once in you life.
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Yes, there have been studies and you won't accept them because they don't conform to your archaic way of thinking.
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It's real bad. I know the children of some of those.
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I'm not either. What's your point?
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Heterosexual marriage is only "traditional" because you deny with laws any other form of marriage. You're scared shitless that your way of bullying people is coming to an end.
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Do you even know what physiological means?
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Write a self help book for teens. They're killing themselves at an alarming rate as it is now. Change is necessary and inevitable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =s9p5iyr5bXcXX
I would agree children want to be loved but they also want and need more than that.

They need a safe home environment and financial stability.

Need parents to make good choices from meal selection to handling finances.

They need to be raised in a good moral home with examples set.

They need rules and guidelines.

Need someone to tell them “No,” when they’re going down the wrong road.

They need parents who will talk to them and know who they are hanging around.

They need supervision until they are on their own.

They need their parents to be a coach and motivate them when necessary.

They need to be taken places and learn to enjoy the great outdoors.

Kids need more than love. They need the whole package.

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