Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Anon

Lakewood, OH

#191861 Dec 12, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> You do that often.
I see you're back on the West Coast as opposed to your New York haunts. Does this fulfill your private jet fantasy? You are a Topix millionaire, are you not?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#191862 Dec 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
I fully understand your sentiments, and share most of them. And when I retire, I am considering several places outside the U.S. as a "base of operations". But I'm still fighting for what I consider to be worth the battles.
You SHOULD fight the battles you find worthy. I do.

If Mexico is a possibility, send me a PM and I'll share what I know with you - and anybody else that is interested. We're well satisfied with our choice and this life.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#191863 Dec 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I fully understand your sentiments, and share most of them.
And when I retire, I am considering several places outside the U.S. as a "base of operations".
But I'm still fighting for what I consider to be worth the battles.
When I answered your post, for some reason, I thought it was Riverside Redneck I was responding to. You don't need my advice or my help, although I would share whatever I have or know with you.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#191864 Dec 12, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I see.
The war on drugs causes people to get hooked on drugs.
The War on Drugs created the illegal drug trade, with drug pushers who will use any means to get people hooked. Since it's already an illegal enterprise, they have no reason to use ethical business practices.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Damn them people trying to uphold the law.
Upholding unjust laws is not virtuous.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#191865 Dec 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
Sorry, I have to be a quibbledick. I'll give you "armed cult". Give you "entrenched after a shootout". Have to take away "thought to be abusing children". That was made up. Have to omit "apocalyptic ranting", since people do that all the time, including environmentalists. It's not a substantive factor. Have to call you on some omissions, as in the nature of the raid, and the extreme nature of the resolution of the standoff. But hey, for you, not bad.
Thanks. I'll get back to you after I'm done with the video.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#191866 Dec 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
My response was to your Bush conversation about ramming through elements of domestic surveilance, unless I misread it. He was a liberal on those issues.
No problem. I just needed to know what you meant by liberal. For you, Bush and the illegal invasion of privacy are liberalism. By that reckoning, I agree that liberalism has been a disaster. It certainly was in Nazi Germany.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#191867 Dec 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
Reports say the ATF agents who were shot and those dragging them to safety were praying. I don't hold the praying against them. Do you think the agents should have died because they were praying?
No.

Do you think that they should have lived because they were?
Buck Crick wrote:
The Davidians ... made bad choices. If they had known the government was going to burn them alive, more would have probably come out.
Road map. It doesn't take a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.

Buck Crick wrote:
When our government decides to burn citizens alive, they should give warning, at least. Can you agree on that? Not only that, but before they tore into the building with tanks, chewing up some persons with the tracks, they announced on loud speaker that they would not make an armed attack. Then, as aerial video shows, started firing automatic weapons into the house.
I'm not here to defend that government. That's a separate issue for me.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#191868 Dec 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
did you see the movie, A Day Without a Mexican?
I did - years ago. It was surrealistic.

Were you aware that today is a big holiday in Mexico - Día de la Virgen de Guadalupe? We've been hearing bandas and cohetes all day.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#191869 Dec 12, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
What is the meaning of that string of words with regard to reality? Wittgenstein would say that the words have no meaning if the world would be exactly the same were the words not "true," or if the opposite were "true."
The meaning of the linguistic string, "There is an elephant in the room" relates to things that might happen because its true that are different were it not true. If true, I might see or hear an elephant if I were in the room. If the opposite were the case - no elephant - I could not do those things. That is the meaning of meaningful words.
And that is why the linguistic string "There is an invisible pink unicorn in the room" is meaningless. There is no discernible difference in the world between when one claims it is the case and when one says that the IPU has left the room and it is no longer the case.
What is the discernible difference between it being the case that the US was formed on the basis of man's rights being an endowment from god and the opposite? If nothing, then the words are meaningless.
Do you claim that Christianity contributed any ideas to American law? Do you think that we are indebted to the Christianity for America? Do you think perhaps that ideas like individual liberty and the separation of powers would not have occurred to the founders without the idea that a god was involved?
I wonder where we'd be if we had trusted in Smurfs all those years ago.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#191870 Dec 12, 2013
BOOBY nice to see you still have no life........

Oh and your health will be far worse

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191871 Dec 12, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
You SHOULD fight the battles you find worthy. I do.
If Mexico is a possibility, send me a PM and I'll share what I know with you - and anybody else that is interested. We're well satisfied with our choice and this life.
Thanks a lot.

I have hinted numerous times, and don't get the time of day about your secret paradise.

After all we've been through.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#191872 Dec 12, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
Texas is the state they lived in.. I think that would be the state to compare their gun possession to.
This is what you needed to have posted:

"Far from inviting an exodus and surrender, tape recordings reveal that by late March, FBI negotiators told the Davidians: "No one is authorized to come out of there for any reason. The patience of the bosses is no longer what it was. If anyone tries to come out, they will be treated in such a way that they'll be forced to retreat."

[28:05 on the video]


That changes everything.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#191873 Dec 12, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
You may not think so but God does speak to people.
Children say that about their imaginary friends, and believe it too.

You can find people of many religions who claim for their deity what you do for yours.

Does that connect any dots for you? I bet it doesn't.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#191874 Dec 12, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I wonder where we'd be if we had trusted in Smurfs all those years ago.
There wouldn't be a nation.

The source of rights had to be beyond the arbitrary whims of man; an intrinsic right, equal for all, regardless of birth.

Martin Luther King, Jr. illustrated this in one of his speeches, when he remarked that our rights come from our humanity itself, and that humanity is holy, because it is in the image of God.

Not the least remarkable quality of their idea is the inheritance of rights being there for all citizens, even those who don't believe in God.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#191875 Dec 12, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe. I'm not sure what you think I believe. I want government to help people. Most entitlements are not wealth shifting, but are financed by the beneficiaries themselves during better times - things like unemployment and disability insurance, and Meciare and Social Security.
Only a fraction of would be what you might call frank socialism - the haves supporting the have nots. This would be help for the needy, sick, elderly, disadvantaged, and unlucky - things like Medicaid and welfare.
Most of the rest is related to building and maintaining infrastructure, essential services such as police and fire departments, and to facilitating productivity as with quality public education, and various grants and low interest loans for students and small businesses.
I don't see a nanny state there.
You took the thoughts right out of my head

I don't see a nanny state there, either.

Apologies, doc. I misjudged.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#191876 Dec 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know that Mexico is part of America, right?
Ugh

Really?

I thought it was part of Europe.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#191877 Dec 12, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Which Christians did that? You'd think a bunch of Christians wouldn't forget to put the word God in the Constitution.
The Christians that founded America did that.

I though t you knew.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#191878 Dec 12, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course he did; because your Jewsus *only* exists inside your own ugly imagination.
And you are one of the most hate-filled people around.
So naturally, that's what your .. ahem... jewsus "told" you do say.
I find it interesting that your jewsus **hates** the same people **you** hate.
Very interesting.
Dammit.

I thought I was #1....

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#191879 Dec 12, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> she better be, shes one of those behemoth type leviathans you see at walmart or the all you can eat buffets.
LMAO!

Not one of those Walmart chicks with the back boobs??

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#191880 Dec 12, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
The War on Drugs created the illegal drug trade, with drug pushers who will use any means to get people hooked. Since it's already an illegal enterprise, they have no reason to use ethical business practices.
<quoted text>
Upholding unjust laws is not virtuous.
What illegal narcotics laws do you feel are unjust?

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