Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#190404 Dec 7, 2013
Only a pyrrhic victory.
My internet banking works just fine on December 25th.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No, there's no war.
Try going to the bank on Christmas.
All you'll get is a locked door and an ATM...
We won the war.

Since: Dec 11

Perth, Western Australia

#190405 Dec 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Which god?
God.
duh
I always find it amusing when someone asks a Christian "which god?", as if the Christian just may believe in a different god.
Why do y'all do that?
For clarification there are so many we need to know which god you're talking about. I don't know about anyone else here but I like to know which god I'm saying I don't believe in.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#190406 Dec 7, 2013
Bongo wrote:
cameras at almost every intersection mete out tickets by the ten thousnds a week, 85 dollars each. The cops are always ready to condescend and pummel you at the slightest question
Who do you think is responsible for that?
Bongo wrote:
Im leaving when my youngest gets out of school.
I can understand that.

The important thing to notice is that a liberal like me and a conservative like you are equally unhappy. The liberals are not your enemy. They have been completely disempowered, which is why all that Obama could get passed with his Obamacare was a windfall for the insurers, and why liberals are just as anxious to escape as conservatives like you are.

The corporatists don't represent either of us. It's not a Democrat versus Republican thing, or a liberal versus (Goldwater-type) conservative thing. It's a class war, with the underclass arguing over two parties neither of which represents their interests, but serve the nations owners instead. Isn't that obvious yet?

So yes, move on. Why support such a system? Why underwrite a government that takes so much of your money and gives you so little back in return? You're paying as much as they pay in the countries that offer cradle to grave government services. From Bill Maher:

"Now I know that there are few words in America more toxic than socialist, and these days big government spending is about as popular as Casey Anthony at a Chucky Cheese. Yes, Americans say they hate socialism but when it comes to Social Security, Medicare, unemployment, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, corporate welfare, bailouts, and farm subsidies, what we really say to socialism is I can’t quit you.

"Americans don’t want less spending on healthcare, by almost 2 to 1 they want more. Only 7% of Americans are willing to do away with either Social Security or Medicare, and even 62% of tea party members say those programs are worth the cost, yet 91% say they want smaller government with fewer services. They’re like the guy whose been to prison and says sure I gargle with a guy’s balls once in a while, and there’s nothing I love more than ass play with other men, but no I can’t stand fags.

"Yes, there are millions of people in the world just like you in nice places like Switzerland and Sweden. They enjoy high standards of living and freedom, and they’re socialists. Studies show they’re actually happier than we are, and that’s not surprising, because the only difference between American socialism and European socialism is European socialism works.

"For their tax dollars Europeans get full health care coverage, generous pensions, daycare, long paid vacations, maternity leave, free college, and public transportation that doesn’t smell like pee. Whereas our tax dollars go towards military bases in Germany, subsidies to oil companies, building bridges to nowhere, wars, and putting half of Cheech and Chong in prison."
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#190407 Dec 7, 2013
Ah yes, the believers.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Lots of people go to the bank. Especially those on the lower economic end without credit cards. Watch how much cash is used in WalMart checkout lines.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#190408 Dec 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Christmas is a federal holiday, sweet cheeks.
We won.
Jesus has everything to do with Christmas.
The holiday is even named after Him.
Saying Christmas has nothing to do with Jesus is like saying MLK day has nothing to do with MLK...
Do you celebrate Christmas in your village?
Show me the letters J U and E in Christmas. I'll spot you the S and S.

Martin Luther King day is named after Martin Luther King, Jr.

Petition Congress to make a Jesus day.

Go.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#190409 Dec 7, 2013
I managed to blow a hole through a polycarbonate roof panel on a side building with my last lot of fireworks. Oops.
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
In the way that we celebrate Bonfire Night because of Guy Fawkes.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#190410 Dec 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Which god?

God.

duh

I always find it amusing when someone asks a Christian "which god?", as if the Christian just may believe in a different god.

Why do y'all do that?
Because without counting all the religions, there are many gods, just in the bible.

You can believe a woodland faery made you for all I care, I can believe, or not believe, whatever I want as well, something I base on facts and not a collection of stories and superstitions.

That's why I do that anyway, can't speak for anyone else.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#190411 Dec 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I had to go to the googlers for that one.
A strange celebration.
Do you celebrate it?
Oh yes - it's tradition.

Remember, remember!
The fifth of November,
The Gunpowder treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot!
Guy Fawkes and his companions
Did the scheme contrive,
To blow the King and Parliament
All up alive.
Threescore barrels, laid below,
To prove old England's overthrow.
But, by God's providence, him they catch,
With a dark lantern, lighting a match!
A stick and a stake
For King James's sake!
If you won't give me one,
I'll take two,
The better for me,
And the worse for you.
A rope, a rope, to hang the Pope,
A penn'orth of cheese to choke him,
A pint of beer to wash it down,
And a jolly good fire to burn him.
Holloa, boys! holloa, boys! make the bells ring!
Holloa, boys! holloa boys! God save the King!
Hip, hip, hooor-r-r-ray!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#190412 Dec 7, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
He's addicted.
Yes, and he admits to that. Yet he still feels comfortable dissing pot smokers.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#190413 Dec 7, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Only a pyrrhic victory.
My internet banking works just fine on December 25th.
I know you celebrate Christmas, Jesus' birth, out there in the UK.

Well,, maybe not YOU, but most people do.

Most of your businesses are closed that day, the day prior and the day after.

What devastating cost are you referring to? The festivities? The food? The family gathering?

Or are you that typical type that racks up his credit cards to buy everyone you've ever known a gift?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#190414 Dec 7, 2013
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me the letters J U and E in Christmas. I'll spot you the S and S.
Martin Luther King day is named after Martin Luther King, Jr.
Petition Congress to make a Jesus day.
Go.
Christ's Mass, my dear.

I know you're not this stupid.

You don't play it very well, wither.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#190415 Dec 7, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
We cannot convince American people of the superiority of freedom any more.
You need to talk to your government about that, not the American people. The citizens have little say about national policy any more. They are losing their power at the state level as well.

You are still free, however, to choose the local dog catcher and set the local library's hours.
Buck Crick wrote:
They deserve what they get. And they are gonna' get it.
We agree there.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#190416 Dec 7, 2013
LuciFerr wrote:
<quoted text>
Because without counting all the religions, there are many gods, just in the bible.
You can believe a woodland faery made you for all I care, I can believe, or not believe, whatever I want as well, something I base on facts and not a collection of stories and superstitions.
That's why I do that anyway, can't speak for anyone else.
You didn't answer the question.

You're talking to a Christian.

A Christian, a believer in God.

And you still ask which god?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#190417 Dec 7, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yes - it's tradition.
Remember, remember!
The fifth of November,
The Gunpowder treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the Gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot!
Guy Fawkes and his companions
Did the scheme contrive,
To blow the King and Parliament
All up alive.
Threescore barrels, laid below,
To prove old England's overthrow.
But, by God's providence, him they catch,
With a dark lantern, lighting a match!
A stick and a stake
For King James's sake!
If you won't give me one,
I'll take two,
The better for me,
And the worse for you.
A rope, a rope, to hang the Pope,
A penn'orth of cheese to choke him,
A pint of beer to wash it down,
And a jolly good fire to burn him.
Holloa, boys! holloa, boys! make the bells ring!
Holloa, boys! holloa boys! God save the King!
Hip, hip, hooor-r-r-ray!
God save the Queen.

er, or something like that.

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#190418 Dec 7, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
You have bought into the same paradigm as Buck. You trust our enemies. They have you more interested in the profitability of correctional institutes than in justice.
What makes you think that the government pays private contractors less than it spends when it builds and administers prisons itself? This was the same line we were fed about privatizing the administration of Medicare benefits through senior HMOs, which cost taxpayers about 12% more per Medicare patient than what they paid before the matter was privatized, and patients and physicians get less to boot:
"Overpayment. How much more do they get paid? The Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC), an independent federal body established by the BBA to advise Congress, released its annual “Report to Congress” on March 1, 2007. Their analysis indicates that benchmarks are 116% of the average Medicare FFS [fee for service, what private doctors contracting with Medicare receive] expenditures and payments to plans are 112% of the average Medicare FFS expenditures. "
http://140.174.89.214/News/Arc hives/MA_Overpayments.htm
You simply need to read and evaluate data independently and critically, not just trust authoritative father figures, or at a minimum, learn who is your friend and who is merely posing as your friend.
I don't expect you to believe or trust me. I just noted a few years back what fraction of the American people lean your way, how immovable they were, saw what the inevitable result of that would be, and decided that it wasn't good for me and my family that so many share your philosophy. I don't think it's good for you and yours either, but that's for you to determine.
I can look out my window and see a private prison down the road. One of those CCA places. It is about the biggest economic engine in the county outside the farms and ranches. It supports the local government. They have to pay the county for meals and other things. It is also the biggest employer. It is also cheaper than government run institutions. It also just gets the overflow. They have pulled prisoners out to fill state prisons left emptier after waves of releases.

They are cheaper, more flexible, return more dollars to the local area, and better managed than state facilities. They are much kinder to those drug prisoners and other lesser felonies. You chunk the hard core violent ones in the state system.

Our county jail houses prisoners from other counties in the state, and gets paid for it. It is cheaper for those other counties. Capital costs.

The laws are written. Offenses are to be punished. It is the law. Secular law. Those private prisons tend to be run more efficiently and humanely than state ones. They are more answerable to the public and political pressures. You won't have the entrenchment you get in government power and jobs. Your worst abuses are done in those government prisons.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#190419 Dec 7, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, and he admits to that. Yet he still feels comfortable dissing pot smokers.
I'm not comfortable with a man of your advanced years using words like "dissing".

It's just wrong.

ya dig?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#190420 Dec 7, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, and he admits to that. Yet he still feels comfortable dissing pot smokers.
Evidently, it's easier to quit heroin than cigarettes and here they send the smack addicts to methadone clinics.

Smokers are paying for Australia's deficit.

It's quite a mess.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#190421 Dec 7, 2013
Cisco Kid wrote:
Why do you waste your time worshipping the false god of science? "Nobel winner: scientists get it wrong most of time
AP News | 12/06/13 06:42 pm
Oh boy. Another fine product of Jesus, Inc. You can't have enough neighbors that think like this.

Now that you've covered science, please tell us what you think about critical thinking, autonomy, mankind, and man's lot in life.
Thinking

Merthyr Tydfil, UK

#190422 Dec 7, 2013
Richard Dawkins uses the words "merry christmas" more often than most of your compatriots do. "happy holidays" really grates on me.

To correct you: most of our businesses are not closed the day before but most are closed the day after - except for retailers.

For me, christmas is a great excuse to have parties without any of that tedious church nonsense. The only issue I have is that the pubs shut early on the 25th.

Yes, I will buy quite a few presents but I always pay off my credit cards completely every month.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I know you celebrate Christmas, Jesus' birth, out there in the UK.
Well,, maybe not YOU, but most people do.
Most of your businesses are closed that day, the day prior and the day after.
What devastating cost are you referring to? The festivities? The food? The family gathering?
Or are you that typical type that racks up his credit cards to buy everyone you've ever known a gift?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#190423 Dec 7, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>You didn't answer the question.

You're talking to a Christian.

A Christian, a believer in God.

And you still ask which god?
Sorry dude, I forgot you haven't read the christian bible.

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