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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#188323 Nov 29, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

Merriam Webster good enough?
a : a disbelief in the existence of deity
b : the doctrine that there is no deity
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

a : has actual, real-live people who are like that.
b : only exists in the fevered and self-lying brains of god-robots.
a : you don't get to redefine words.

b : you don't get to redefine words.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188324 Nov 29, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
"Nothing" must either (A) exist, or (B) not exist.
If (A), then something cannot come from it.
If (B), then something cannot come from it.
Given only (A) and (B) are possible, something cannot come from nothing.
How many ways do you want to lose on this, Bert?
Because I am perfectly willing for you to lose as many times as you wish.
Have you revised your revision of "religion poisons everything" again, yet?
Wrong, either something can come from nothing or it can't. The ONLY way to determine if either one of these proposition are true is to be able to examine the properties of BOTH of the subject matters. Without a thorough examination of both "something" and "Nothing" No definitive conclusion can be drawn.

No I haven't revised the fact that religion poisons everything "Meaningful" And I gave a list, would you like me to repost that list, just for you?

BTW I asked you for a definition of "nothing" Cat got yer tongue?

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#188325 Nov 29, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry I angered you by making fun of your Hero Jesus. You do know that he had nothing noteworthy to say? That his very existence is in question, yet you are angered by a joke. Your "Hero" is not all he's cracked up to be, and just may well have never existed.
You are mistaken, Berp Legumes.

I could not get mad over a light-weight like you pontificating through your ass about anyone's existence, or on anything, for that matter.

Particularly when you claim nothing both exists and doesn't exist.

On the other hand, if someone were on this thread with an elementary level education in history of the era, and made such claims, I might respond to them.

So far, none has shown up.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#188326 Nov 29, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>How could you forget another one of my favorites "God The Failed Hypothesis" How science shows that God does not exist. Victor Stenger..
Stenger is a light-weight.

Like you, Berp.

Excuse me.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#188327 Nov 29, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Already done, multiple times.
Results - psi exists.
And yet somehow other scientists can never repeat those tests. Odd that.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188328 Nov 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly right.
My cat is an atheist. So am I.
Without any **proof** that gods are real?
Atheism is the only rational conclusion.
Yeah, there are a number of words that scare the shit out of them, Rational, and evidence.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#188329 Nov 29, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Including God. So who or what caused God to exist? NO SPECIAL PLEADING NOW< it a childish tact.
Nobody believes in a god that began to exist.

So what was your point, Berp.

Excuse me.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#188330 Nov 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes default position.
You god-robots have failed-- and quite spectacularly too-- to show that your god is a real thing.
(I will now await your **insults** because, you know, that is how Jesus would reply to me. Right?)
It isn't our responsibility to prove anything to you.

You've made your choices and have decided on your own beliefs.

Why do you blame us?
Bongo

Bronx, NY

#188331 Nov 29, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Blue Oyster?
Wan't that a band?
If it's a bar, I have probably hit somebody in it.
Never like a lot of noise in a bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mPIeI-muZv0XX
Tell us about the wagon wheel

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#188332 Nov 29, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>The problem with a debate about God, there is no "knowledge" and nothing rational about the belief.
Then why do you attempt to rationalize your belief?

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#188333 Nov 29, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Sorry -I forgot the first an very critical post in this series, so I'm posting it again with the revisions:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
FIVE posts later and still no communication.
[IANS groans even more and heaves even harder as he laboriously struggles to roll the boulder uphill.]
There you go, nitpicking again.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#188334 Nov 29, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody believes in a god that began to exist.
So what was your point, Berp.
Excuse me.
Nobody believes in a god then.
Because it definitely never existed before the human mind invented it.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188335 Nov 29, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> baffled buffoon, you obstreperously prevaricate. You also err greatly in your claim that There is NO evidence for Jesus, Heaven, Hell, or Your demon God. Youre either a hypocrite or ignorant of the atheist rule book whereby you make a positive claim without proof.
ALL, you have is an immoral holy book to prop up your beliefs, NOTHIBNG ELSE. It is a fact that there are NO CONTEMPORARY accounts of Jesus outside of the bible.

Then wanting to be true to the "atheist rule book" There is no verifiable or scientifically observed evidence that supports your POSITIVE claim that Hell, Heaven, or your Demon God exist. Is that more palatable for you? I'll go one step further and say that anyone who accepts a belief without evidence or for no good reason is totally irrational, and depending on the fervor of their belief could be considered totally insane.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#188336 Nov 29, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>The problem with a debate about God, there is no "knowledge" and nothing rational about the belief.
Which belief?

Atheism or theism?

Since: Sep 08

Rocky Ford, CO

#188337 Nov 29, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Blue Oyster?
Wan't that a band?
If it's a bar, I have probably hit somebody in it.
Never like a lot of noise in a bar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mPIeI-muZv0XX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Just under 2 minutes is when it starts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I've heard that is recreation in parts of Central America.

I've chopped off 2 inch tree limbs clean in one swing in my day. Overhead. Those thin spring steel cane machetes with sharp blades can be awesome.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188338 Nov 29, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for illustrating the fraud again.
You can't get to atheism on evidence.
It requires belief.
You want to change the meaning of atheism to make it the default position.
You are a fraud, Bert.
"In our understanding, the argument for this broader notion was
introduced into the philosophical literature by Antony Flew in "The
Presumption of Atheism" (1972). In that work, he noted that he was
using an etymological argument to try to convince people *not* to
follow the *standard meaning* of the term. His goal was to reframe
the debate about the existence of God and to re-brand "atheism" as a default position."
-Uri Nodelman; Senior Editor, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
I know you're smarter than this, aren't you? Well just maybe I was mistaken. You get to Atheism NOT on evidence, but from COMPLETE LACK OF EVIDENCE, Holy shit, put down the weed boy!!!

I'm not changing anything goober, Atheism IS the default position. Twist and turn anyway you like, Atheism REJECTS the POSITIVE claim that a GOD exists..........thats it goober, nothing else.

Once again calling it a belief seems to make you feel better about your gullibility, thats fine, your embarrassed I know, so seek your comfort zone by calling Atheism a belief, it's ok, we all understand how desperate you are to pull un all down to your level of extreme gullibility.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188339 Nov 29, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong, either something can come from nothing or it can't. The ONLY way to determine if either one of these proposition are true is to be able to examine the properties of BOTH of the subject matters. Without a thorough examination of both "something" and "Nothing" No definitive conclusion can be drawn.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha h..., Berp,...bwahahahahaha..

OK, Berp. I'll give you a chance to examine "nothing", and then we will debate whether something can come from it.

How long will you need to examine nothing?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha....

Done yet?

Bwhahahahahahahhahahahahaahaha hahahah...Berp,...excuse me.

Are you ready to look at a second "nothing" yet?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahah...

Oh god, there is no brain power on this thread for me to challenge any more.

Now I'm depressed.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#188340 Nov 29, 2013
Igor Trip wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet somehow other scientists can never repeat those tests. Odd that.
Yes, they have.

You don't know what you're talking about, Igrope.

Again.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#188342 Nov 29, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahaahaha h..., Berp,...bwahahahahaha..
OK, Berp. I'll give you a chance to examine "nothing", and then we will debate whether something can come from it.
How long will you need to examine nothing?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahaha....
Done yet?
Bwhahahahahahahhahahahahaahaha hahahah...Berp,...excuse me.
Are you ready to look at a second "nothing" yet?
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahah...
Oh god, there is no brain power on this thread for me to challenge any more.
Now I'm depressed.
I can see that I have reduced you to a bawling pile of quivering protoplasm , completely unable to converse in any intelligent way. My logic confuses you so you answer with a string of bwahah's symbolizing you complete inability to reason. I find this extremely comical.

I have asked now Three times for YOUR definition of nothing, so far (crickets)

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#188343 Nov 29, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep.
I'd be happy to welcome actual **proof** that a benevolent god is watching out for humans.
Alas, the problem of **preventable** evil in the world proves there is no such a thing.
Oh, I did not rule out the possibility of a Résistance.

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