The mindset was, and has continued to be, that "god" had to be of the pattern of a monarch. I am not of that mindset.
Kaku is also a pop scientist like the late Richard Feynmann and Carl Sagan, and Bill Nye, and Neil deGrasse Tyson. They speak to lay audiences, and takes poetic license. Scientists don't consider the expansion of the universe to be an explosion which occurs into a larger space, but the expansion of space itself. I'm sure that Kaku knows that.I was watching "Imus in the Morning" this morning. He had on Dr. Michio Kaku, theoretical physicist, talking about the Hadron Collider. Dr. Kaku said that they were looking for the cause of the Big Bang. In his words, "Where is the match that started the explosion?". You may have not followed it, but I argued for 2 weeks on here with Polymath for the proposition that the Big Bang requires a cause. He persisted with "No, a cause has to precede an event, and it is not possible, because time had not yet begun, so no cause could precede it". I proved his thesis abzurd over and over.
That being said, I think that we can discuss the cause of the universe, but we have to do it from an extra-universal perspective, as from that of a multiverse, which is highly speculative. Polymath has a right to object to us doing that. Still, I will:
Our time may have begun some thirteen trillion years ago, but this multiversal metatime (any transcendent or higher level time) from which our space-time may have budded may extend back infinitely (please don't bother arguing about the impossibility of that, especially if you are willing to conceive of a god that way).
From the perspective of within the universe, referring to something existing before the start of time is meaningless, just as being on the surface of the earth but north of the north pole is meaningless.
We're dong pretty good staying civil, Buck.
[QUOTE who="Buck Crick"Gratifying to see that a real physicist, Dr. Kaku, says Buck is right and Polymath is full of shit.[/QUOTE]
What do you need Kaku for? You do that yourself. This was the purpose of all of this, wasn't it - to get to that sentence.