Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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I dissent.
Physical violence has kept me housed and fed.
And people who know of me give a wide swath.
Understood. It works for some folks.

I used to be very violent, it helped change me into the man I am today.

But nowadays I have no reason to be violent anymore.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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Disbelief and lack of belief are not "essentially" the same.
You are dead wrong, Dipshit.
"Disbelief" is the presence of something, not the absence of something.
"Lack of belief" is the absence of something.
"Atheism" is the presence of something - belief that no god exists.
Absence of belief is not atheism.
Atheism is an affirmative position of belief.
Atheism is as much a belief as theism.
Correct.

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Palin considers it satire as long as you don't say "effing retards". I'm not sure how she feels about touchy-feely euphemisms like "special needs," however
Hey! You reminded me of a joke. Would you like to hear it?
It wasn't funny the first, second, or third time.

I'll try not to be so touchy-feely from here on.

Starting now,...

Bill Maher is a lying, crooked nosed, little leftist ass wipe who pretends he thinks of jokes while a team is working round the clock to feed him lines.

His face strikes me as exceptionally punch-worthy.

He wouldn't call the baby a retard in front of it's daddy, and neither would you.

Wonder why that is?

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Catcher1 wrote:
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Violence is for punks, dummies, moral weaklings and cowards.
Take your choice.
Walk a mile in my shoes, Silky Pants.

Some of us just like our fists to feel things crunch.

If you tried it, you might be surprised at the sensation.

Then you want to refine and develop its efficiency and power through better technique.

It's an art form.

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Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Or are you going to be stupid enough to claim that "disbelief" and "lack of belief" have different meanings?
Bwahahahahahah....

Well, yes, I guess I'm stupid enough to claim the two words have different meanings.

Since the two words have different meanings.

Sure is good to have you back, Darwin'sStumpHumper.
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+++++++GOD NOW APPROVES OF SAME-SEX-MARRIAGE!!!+++++++ God has changed His mind regarding Homosexuality!. God can change His mind on matters if He wants to, there are instances in the Bible where God does just that!. This time is no different. God has certainly been answering the big Gays prayers lately!, with their recent Supreme Court victories and all. God wouldn't answer me, a Straight guy!. You know, I once asked God for a wife, 5 months later, He gave me a wh**e!. I do admit, I did used to blaspheme God a couple years on down before this, but I stopped this. I figured this was the reason God raped me. If God didn't want to give me a wife, He sure as Hell didn't have to give me that rotten wh**e!!!. Because God bestowed this evil upon me, my blaspheming Him returned with a vengence!!!. I lay it on old God now and I don't care if I do go burn forever, HAHAHAHAHA!!!. I blaspheme God real good now. I do it more then I ever did and I am a might proud of that fact, HAHAHAHAHA!!!...GIVE ME ANOTHER WH**E GOD!!!!!!!!!.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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Walk a mile in my shoes, Silky Pants.
Some of us just like our fists to feel things crunch.
If you tried it, you might be surprised at the sensation.
Then you want to refine and develop its efficiency and power through better technique.
It's an art form.
LOL! Your are not nearly as tough as your words and I am sure you are quite familiar with the wearing of silk panties.

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I am enjoying Buck in my short foray here. His claims are so idiotic as to be hilarious. At least, when taken in small doses.
Take care. I may hang around for a little while...or I may not.
MY claims are idiotic??

Bwahahahahahaahaaaaa....
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There is a contradiction unless you use different rules.

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No contradiction. The contradiction arises IF you try to use the same rules.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> They demonstrate he is using a unscientific definition of the word "theory"
and is in fact scientifically he is using the word theory instead of the correct term "hypothesis".
Behe is using the term "theory" in a more strict construction than the other scientists use it frequently in scientific literature.

They didn't demonstrate anything, other than the fact that Behe is much smarter and more honest than they are.

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@ Riverside Redneck - this is not a disproof of your god, but it is a sound rebuttal to the argument from complexity for its existence, which is the basis of the intelligent design / irreducible complexity argument.
It is nothing of the sort.

Intelligent Design profers no such argument.

Again, you don't know what you're talking about.

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timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>It wasn't supposed to sound profound.
Thanks for telling me.

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Hey Buck.
What would you say is your career record, wins and losses, on Topix arguments?
Be honest now.
Winning 99.99%

The only one I can recall losing is when I got mixed up on the writing of the Copper Scrolls found in the Qumran excavations.

It was a couple of years ago. I corrected the record.

That's it.

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It doesn't matter to non-believers like me if I'm called atheist, agnostic &/or secular. Abrahamic gods and these...
godchecker.com
are now discredited, from a rational point of view. To take them seriously one would have to believe a god sent a prophet to Earth or other silly Abrahamic dogma. The Torah, Bible and Quran are just old books and religion is plainly man-made, not god-given.
Buck Crick wrote:
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Disbelief and lack of belief are not "essentially" the same.
You are dead wrong, Dipshit.
"Disbelief" is the presence of something, not the absence of something.
"Lack of belief" is the absence of something.
"Atheism" is the presence of something - belief that no god exists.
Absence of belief is not atheism.
Atheism is an affirmative position of belief.
Atheism is as much a belief as theism.
Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology

When it comes to religion and superstitious beliefs the USA can sometimes appear as backward as anywhere in Waziristan or the Middle East.

Jonny Eve states the "bleedin' obvious"...
http://www.atheismuk.com/2012/03/31/atheism/y...

Clerics should be relics of the past.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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Buck Crick wrote:
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Behe is using the term "theory" in a more strict construction than the other scientists use it frequently in scientific literature.
They didn't demonstrate anything, other than the fact that Behe is much smarter and more honest than they are.

That's a crick of shat.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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"A New Earth" is also outstanding.
Agreed.

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Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Really? Have you read "The God Delusion"? Dawkins clearly says that he is an atheist in that book. And he defines atheism in the way I have described.
But then, we find that you lie continuously. So why should I pay any attention to what you say?
If you think I'm lying, then I'll let Dawkins refute you himself, Darwin'sDogPecker.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9102...

Interviewer: "Why don't you call yourself an agnostic, then?"

Dawkins: "I do"

Interviewer: "But you are called the world's most famous atheist".

Dawkins: "Not by me".

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Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Again, clearly you haven't read the book and are speaking opinions that are without basis.
The delusion he is speaking of is the delusion that there is actually evidence of the god of yours. In that sense, yes it is a delusion. The evidence you all claim is in fact nonexistent. And with no evidence it is only logical to conclude that there is very, very likely no god.
Though admittedly, one can not claim "no god" definitively. Not without perfect knowledge on the subject, which no human has.
Excuse me Darwin's stepchild. Over 150 years ago, the missing link was to be the proof man was not created. It's 2013 it's still missing. Page 92 in Darwin's autobiography he admits he does believe in a creator, or God. Even your theory of prove fails to be proven, and if it was the debate would still be alive.

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RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Who refers to you that way?
Tough litigators.

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Thank you for your advice. I'm familiar with the book, its author, and its thesis. I'm curious as to why you recommend this book for me. Do you think I have trouble living in the moment, or that some aspect of my manner of thought is causing me to suffer? If I'm suffering, I'm grateful to you for bringing that to my attention. I thought I was happy.
Actually, my thought keep me coming into new things on a regular basis.
And would you please define close minded, and explain how it applies to me with a specific example or two?
Anyone that would conclude their faith is proven, is closed minded. There are way too many details we can't answer to introduce anything in regards to the origin of man, earth, souls, and the universe, for anyone to say "I know" or "it is fact"

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Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Sorry, Dave, but "dis-" means "not". And yes, there are similarities in meaning between "disavow" and "lack of vow", though modern usage gives disavow a stronger meaning. "lack of vow" would mean neither vowing for or against, while "disavow" would be to vow against.
However, the case with "disbelief" and "lack of belief" are essentially the same. Both mean "to not believe".
You really should think these things through more thoroughly.
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So you are saying that belief is the same as non-belief?
Explain to me, clearly, the semantic difference between "a disbelief in Santa Claus" and "a lack of belief in Santa Claus".
Disbelief is a denial. It is an affirmation that you don't believe in something.

Lack of a belief is no commitment to a certain thinking about something. It is being apathetic and non-committal.

You are on here denying. You are committed to a belief.

No matter what you might like to think.

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