Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#184817 Nov 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Since Dave refuses, perhaps you'd like a shot at defining open mindedness, and explaining to us how that applies to you.
I believe that open-mindedness means looking at everything honestly, objectively and subjectively. Not just through the microscope's evidence lens. Being open-minded implies a willingness to consider all sides of an argument, something I think today's atheist can't do.

We Christians say that we 'know' answers that we cannot possible know yet as they believe fully in the Bible. We take it on faith, on belief.

I'll admit that being open-minded means that I HAVE to admit that the Bible may be wrong, which I have. I've contested the 'omnipotence' part of God that clearly cannot be true.

You agnostic/atheists wait for evidence to become available that makes God a fact, but most of you say you'd accept His existence, but still consider Him evil. You're minds seem to be closed, not to anything, just to God. I've seen a lot of atheists that have spiritual experiences, believe in luck, ego or karma, believe in ghosts or aliens, etc. your minds are closed to God.

Who is really open minded? Being open-minded is the best viewpoint as it allows the truth to shine through, and done times that truth requires no evidence.

Open-mindedness cannot be a framework in which you start with absolute truth and ignore everything that contradicts it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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Fennario

#184818 Nov 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
The modern ReThugs: the party of the most intensely felt **greed** in centuries.
You might like this recent edition of Bill Maher's New Rules. The sound is a little faint, but audible:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/09/1254...

And then there's this, also about American conservative Christians:
http://www.alternet.org/belief/gospel-selfish...

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#184819 Nov 16, 2013
Anon wrote:
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So a visit from god is not that big a deal. I would have thought it would have been life transforming, but what do I know? Are all Christians this hard to impress?
Have you experienced God?

If not, you have no frame of reference to dictate how it can or should go.

You're like a virgin teaching sex ed.

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#184820 Nov 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I agree.
You're not special, and you're touched.
Not touched by a lotioned up cucumber, no.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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Fennario

#184821 Nov 16, 2013
madscot wrote:
IANS! How are ya my friend? Took a sabbatical to read A Song of Ice and Fire and a few other books I've been wanting to read. Good to see you are still here.
Congrats on the wedding. Please pass that on to your stunning bride. She's an amazing woman. You did very well for yourself there.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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#184822 Nov 16, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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Hi Madscot. Did you like the book better than Topix?
;-)
Hola, amiga. Did you catch my recent reference to you?
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/atheism/T...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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Fennario

#184823 Nov 16, 2013
Thinking wrote:
No way to design an ethical universe, is it?
If there is a designer, it's evil.
If Jehovah exists, we're all doomed.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

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#184824 Nov 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
You might like this recent edition of Bill Maher's New Rules. The sound is a little faint, but audible:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/09/1254...
And then there's this, also about American conservative Christians:
http://www.alternet.org/belief/gospel-selfish...
.. on nearly all videos including YOUTUBE, a 'closed-caption' option is now available ..

.. click the CC option at the bottom of video then click ENGLISH ..

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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Fennario

#184825 Nov 16, 2013
Bongo wrote:
Prescriptive lexicography: Prescriptive lexicography creates dictionaries on the basis of how people *should* write or speak - based on some idealized norms which may or may not be decreed by an institutional language authority such as the Académie Française.
Does that sound like anybody we know?
Bongo wrote:
The latter does appear to be the way of the Topix atheist.
You misspelled "Buck Crick"
Bongo wrote:
Hey Ians, God clearly says he will frustrate the wisdom of the wise.
That's why we love the little scamp.
Anonymous

Scottsdale, AZ

#184826 Nov 16, 2013
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#184827 Nov 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
You might like this recent edition of Bill Maher's New Rules. The sound is a little faint, but audible:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/09/1254...
And then there's this, also about American conservative Christians:
http://www.alternet.org/belief/gospel-selfish...
They would be a lot more believable if they didn't quote others, or use the same terms and formulations in their arguments. It's like they agree with what their teacher said.

None of them are the slightest bit original in their argumentation. They are almost interchangeable."

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TUGI0DV ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch ...
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#184828 Nov 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Have you experienced God?
If not, you have no frame of reference to dictate how it can or should go.
You're like a virgin teaching sex ed.
Sadly, I've never had a god experience.
I suck at attracting nonexistent entities... but I'll keep at it cuz that's what humans do, right?
Who needs common sense and logic when superstition and myth can get you the exact outcome you're looking for.

“Ditat Deus”

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#184829 Nov 16, 2013
Anon wrote:
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Sadly, I've never had a god experience.
I suck at attracting nonexistent entities... but I'll keep at it cuz that's what humans do, right?
Who needs common sense and logic when superstition and myth can get you the exact outcome you're looking for.
It is your opinion that God is nonexistent that prevents you from experiencing Him.

Utilize your common sense and logic. Tell me how that's got you convinced that God is nonexistent.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#184831 Nov 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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God has touched millions of people, possibly billions.
I'm nothing special.
He fondled a few boys in one church.

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#184832 Nov 16, 2013
JoeShmitd wrote:
Say me plz, what is deffirents between atheism and agnosticism?
Buck Crick of the 19th century.

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#184833 Nov 16, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> He fondled a few boys in one church.
What is it with you people and transforming 'touch' into pedophelia?

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#184834 Nov 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Not touched by a lotioned up cucumber, no.
You'll have to check with your pal Skom on that one.

That's his gig.

Since: Sep 10

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#184835 Nov 16, 2013
Atheists are horrible wrote:
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Hussein is an atheist. That's why America is dead.
Hey, RR, look.

Your Alabama doppelganger!

“ The Lord of delirious minds.”

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#184836 Nov 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Not touched by a lotioned up cucumber, no.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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What is it with you people and transforming 'touch' into pedophelia?
I dunno what is it?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#184837 Nov 16, 2013
Bongo wrote:
There is no perfection except God
Then there is no perfection.
Bongo wrote:
if his ways are not perfect , as you describe, who may challenge that?
I do, and I am not alone. Torture rules out perfection, as does the need to be worshiped. I really can't imagine how anybody can feel otherwise.
Bongo wrote:
In my life im always the bad guy
Not with me. I like and admire you.
Bongo wrote:
The Church is replete with problems but so is everything involving humans.
Humans do some great things.
Bongo wrote:
God is fair, he said one man , Adam, got us in this mess
Your version of fair is not mine. I forgive Adam. I understand him. And Eve. It's the god I find so alien.

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