Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent. Full Story

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#182415 Nov 2, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Come on, you've done it before.
You do resent people who are at the "top of the pile."
?

So you do consider yourself elite?

Thank you for the honesty, although it took some doing to get it out of you.

You stink.

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#182416 Nov 2, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Assuming is a large part of your reasoning process.
That Jehovah is a representation of a higher authority and force behind the creation of this universe and us. It doesn't have to be as pictured.
You are reacting to men's perversions of that representation and have puffed up your little ego to Biblical proportions in reacting to them and are including that force with them. You are no better than them.
A chaotic and random creation belief suits your ego better.
I assume that you are a man, or at least a human. Does that mean, then, that you have an understanding outside man's ability to understand? If a god exists, then you must be God. Is that true?

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182417 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Again you are going to have to let go of this pre-1940's interpretation. You're stuck in the past. This is 2013.
Indeed it is 2013.

So.

Why do you still worship a god as described in a book, that has this god murdering babies on multiple occasions?

Hmmm?

That is so.... Bronze Age.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182418 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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[1] A wooden boat made to bible specifications would have broken in half with the first three foot wave.
Answer:
Pure speculation from a non nautical marine engineer who has not done test and studies on the matter.
False.

I saw a show on National Geographic, where **real** scientists use **real** science, including the US Navy's ocean wave simulator, and proved that a wooden boat could not be built 450 feet long, without breaking in half.

Especially not fastened with wooden pegs-- the **only** tools Noah had available at the time.

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#182419 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Again you are going to have to let go of this pre-1940's interpretation. You're stuck in the past. This is 2013.
Riiight...riiight

In 50 years or so, the Noah myth will have evolved to a wooden nuclear powered submarine and DNA samples kept in cold storage - from the snow covered mountaintops reached by a jet pack Noah kept on board the sub just for harvesting the ice - so the animals can be recreated in "Noah lab 1".
christINSANITY is EVIL

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#182420 Nov 2, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
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In Tourette syndrome, compulsive swearing can be uncontrollable and undesired by the person uttering the phrases. Involuntary outbursts, such as Sh***..are exhibited often in trolls
is that what Your doctors diagnosis concluded regarding your state of mind?

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#182421 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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[3] There was only one hatch - in the top. How did they muck out the manure of five million species of animals?
Incorrect, there was a window and a door.
But. The door was magically sealed by god himself-- Noah was not allowed to open it until god told him it was safe.

The question stands-- how did Noah muck out a thousand tones of animal shyt every day? Using just himself and his sons?

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#182422 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
[4] Once the salt water receded, where was the vegetation necessary for life? What did the carnivores eat until the planet was repopulated? How did the animals get back to their habitats without food or fresh water?
Answer:
Same thing farmers and ranchers do in the winter time. They store hay and food stock.
Carnivores would require **fresh** meat-- there were no freezers back then. Most obligate carnivores won't touch meat that is too old-- and that ark was in the water for 180 days or more -- anything stored that long, at those temperatures (liquid water) would have spoiled.

Your answer is not correct.

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#182423 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
[9] If the human race descended from Noah and his sons, we would see a genetic bottleneck in the human genome roughly 4,000 years back. Do we see this? No.
10] The population of the world is too high if all humanity came from only four breeding pairs a few thousand years ago.
Answer: Speculation and unproven.
Nope. This is sound observational science from population studies.

And DNA studies too-- there is no DNA bottleneck 4000 years back-- there just isn't... there are far more than just 8 DNA chains going back that far.

Very sound science.

And the population of the human race? That is even easier-- there is simply too many people 2000 years back to have descended from 8 people a mere 4000 years back.

Your statements are false.

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#182424 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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[11] A 450ft boat could not hold two or seven or whatever of every species. The number and variation of species of insects alone-- would have filled up the ark, hundreds of times over.
Answer: Speculation and assumptions. A massive regional flood is not only possible but probable. And the Ark could have held regional animals.
You lie: your bible specifies the **whole** world, not a regional one.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182425 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
12] Why are there ancient civilizations with continuous histories dating back to long before the generation of Noah? China and the Egyptians have such continuous histories, with no world sterilizing flood in them.
Answer: Nearly every culture in the world has a story of a massive flood in their history including China and Egypt.
Lie: Egypt has no such story. Neither do the Chinese.

In fact? Any civilization that is not next to large, flood-prone bodies of water? Does not have a flood survival story.

How about that?

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182426 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
[13] Cave paintings in Europe are drawn in Charcoal. Immersion in water would have erased them. These are 15,000 years and older.
Answer: I guess these cave paintings were signed, numbered and dated by the artist??? The charcoal itself may be 15,000 years old but that doesnít mean the paintings are that old.
Nope.. the dated the charcoal used to make them-- so they were **at**least** that old-- or older.

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Fennario

#182427 Nov 2, 2013
havent forgotten wrote:
this is off topic, but you and the other free thinking folks on here should look up info on the dominionism trend in rightwing Christianity, and also the speeches and beliefs of Rafael cruz, the father of Ted Cruz. here comes the antiChrist!
Thanks. I am aware. They want are looking to install the biblical model of government in America including an inquisition with stoning.

Nice to see you again.

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#182428 Nov 2, 2013
Hello everyone!!!:D

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#182429 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
Again you are going to have to let go of this pre-1940's interpretation. You're stuck in the past. This is 2013.
When was the bible written?

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182430 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
[14] If there were a global flood, you would see a universal, world-wide layer of compressed mud dating the that time. This is not the case.

Answer: The earth was indeed covered mostly by water as evidence of marine animals at the top of the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. And much geological evidence points that most mountains were at one time underwater. However I do not attribute all that as being flood related. Itís just a geological fact the earth was covered by water.
Your answer is a lie. The "evidence" you cite? Is millions and multiple millions of years **separated** in time.

Meaning? That these underwater events were not the same flood.

Even more telling? ALL the events you mention? WERE NOT EVEN FLOODS AT ALL! But were seas-- when the sites in question were much-much lower, and actually under water for **millions** of years.

That's not a flood. That's an ocean or lake...

So. You lied **again**...

... WHY DO YOU THINK IT HELPS YOU, TO LIE?

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#182431 Nov 2, 2013
boooots wrote:
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I assume that you are a man, or at least a human. Does that mean, then, that you have an understanding outside man's ability to understand? If a god exists, then you must be God. Is that true?
Just a small part of him, boooots. Nothing spectacular.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182432 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
15] Putting enough fresh [rain] water into the salt oceans to cover the mountains, would dilute it to dangerous levels killing all marine life
Answer: The mountains were covered in precipitation,(snow).
Your answer ignores the dilution effect on the ocean.

Even as little as 6 inches of freshwater suddenly appearing over the entire globe would ruin most marine life.

This is because most marine life lives at the very top layers in the ocean-- and are quite sensitive to differences in salinity.

But to make your story match the actual BuyBull(bible)? You'd need... more than a **mile** of freshwater dropping into the ocean...

...*poof** nearly all life in the oceans is suddenly and irrevocably dead.

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Since: Dec 06

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#182433 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
[17] How did animals get from Australia to the ark, or from the ark back to Australia? The animals living there now go back to pre-historic times, and most are unique to that continent. Koalas require special diets. How did Mr and Mrs Koala carry their food with them all the way from Australia?
Answer: A pre 1940ís childrenís interpretation that Atheist like to strictly adhere too.
Your answer is a lie-- the bible clearly states the whole world was flooded.

Or else your **bible** is lying?

WHICH IS IT?

Either your bible is LYING or it isn't....!

There is no "interpretation" here-- it's true, or it is a LIE.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#182434 Nov 2, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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You ignored [2],[5],[6],[7],[8],[16].

Too much for you to refute?

Obviously.

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