Blood letting to drain evil humors and plasmapheresis for purposes of blood banking or to remove autoimmunoglobins are as different as religion and science.Faith in medicine? Is that considered faith?
Early Doctors would bleed their patients. Patients had faith their Doctor was doing the right thing. Today they do both. They bleed patients and put blood right back into them.
Belief in anything for no valid reason including belief in magic is religious-type faith. It is an unjustified guess.
Belief commensurate with the quantity and quality of available evidence is partial knowledge.
It serves the religious agenda to conflate these two as you are doing now by pretending that because the same word can be used for both, that they are same thing.
It serves the secular agenda to disambiguate them as I am doing now, and emphasize the radical difference between them.
Who tries to do the one, and who tries to do the other? Consider advertising. We have the leading brand, and Brand X. Which one advertises that the competition is really no better? That's what you do when you argue that systems based on reason are no better than systems based on guessing.
And why have you taken that tack? Because of the status of each in modern society. Religion is widely understood as the lesser product, something you unwittingly reinforce every time you try to reduce science and reason to its equivalent.
I always flinch in embarrassment for the believer who trots out,'Atheism is just another kind of faith,' because its a tacit admission that taking claims on faith is a silly thing to do. When youve succumbed to arguing that the opposition is just as misguided as you are, its time to take a step back and rethink your attitudes.- Amanda Marcotte