Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.
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Imhotep wrote:
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One cannot burn bridges that do not exist other than the imagination.
Heaven, hell, paradise, immortality?
Utter nonsense. Wishful thinking,
One's imagination is limited to the box one is in.

Intelligence knows there is something outside the box if intelligence doesn't believe in magic.

You haven't got a clue to what exists outside this manifestation you are stuck in. But something does. Your observable universe is a very tiny portion of infinity.

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Dave died and turned into green electric vapor while on the "other side".
Then he came back as The Dave Nelson.
Actually there was a green vapor. Other than a very dark portion between the leaving and returning. Seriously.
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Dave Nelson wrote:
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I wouldn't say it was any of those. This jihad is offensive defense. You have a medieval culture trying to protect its turf. Those jihad mullahs lose their influence in a progressing world. They are very tribal and resistant to integration in a larger society. Basically you have stone age shamans afraid of losing their grip on the dummies. That is a problem Muslims have had since their beginning. It is why the religion started, trying to bring peace to warring tribes. That is why they will kill each other if they are left alone.
Those mullahs are not above sacrificing others for their own gain. Plus they can avail themselves of the delights of the wives and little brothers of the martyrs they sent off. They supply the money to support them afterwards.
They want a closed society. They will kill each other off if you leave them alone as they vie for power. Leave then alone and if they spread their crap, nuke where it came from.
Their oil wealth is ending. They will be in dire straits before too long.
You don't have that issue with Christianity. The Western world is Christian, and it is what influences the whole world. IT is your science and freedom. Topix atheists are doing the work of the mullahs. They are led to believe they are being constructive in building a new society, but in reality they are destructing it with fanatics waiting to move in. Fifth columns, useful idiots to be removed after their use has been served.
'Useful idiots' are the congregations, tithing money to imaginary spirits, in fantasy houses across the land.

Consider... If the answers to prayer are merely what God wills all along, why pray?

The word 'trinity' appears nowhere in the bible.

Neither does Rapture, or Second Coming, or Original Sin.

Those still unphrased by this? then add:

Omnipresence, Supernatural, Transcendence, Afterlife, Deity, Divinity, Theology, Monotheism, Missionary, Immaculate Conception, Christmas, Christianity, Evangelical, Fundamentalist, Methodist, Catholic, Pope, Cardinal, Catechism, Purgatory, Penance, Transubstantiation, Excommunication, Dogma, Chastity, Unpardonable Sin, Infallibility, Inerrancy, Incarnation, Epiphany, Sermon, Eucharist, the Lord's Prayer, Good Friday, Doubting Thomas, Advent, Sunday School, Dead Sea, Golden Rule, Moral, Morality, Ethics, Patriotism, Education, Atheism, Apostasy, Conservative (Liberal is in), Capital Punishment, Monogamy, Abortion, Pornography, Homosexual, Lesbian, Fairness, Logic, Republic, Democracy, Capitalism, Funeral, Decalogue, or Bible!

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My wife and I had a wonderful time today. We were invited to grandparents day at the private school. My wife and I had a wonderful time today. We were invited to grandparents day at the private school. What festivities and good time of food and fellowship.
We all started out with the Pledge of Allegiance to the US Flag, then followed by the pledge to the Christian Flag, and finally the pledge to the Bible. I would have loved for you to have been there and seen all those little Godbots!
The kids did a great job of singing and telling their grandparents how much they appreciate them. We got to see the classrooms and the work the kids have been doing. It was grand for all us oldies.
Ahhhh freedom is grand!!!
Freedom is great, yes.

Too bad you lack it.
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I go to church regularly, Eagle. My girlfriend is a Christian. They don't know we're gay. She's afraid to let them know so we don't hold hands or anything.
I find that odd but I don't say anything. Such a wonderful place and yet she's afraid of them. Afraid that those wonderful people will find out that she and I get naked together and have girl sex.
I keep telling her that they're going to find out sooner or later. I'm not shy about being lesbian, ya know? I'm not afraid of those people or their 3 gods.
It's not a bad experience for me. I get to be with her and everybody looks and smells good. I like the songs.
For pure Zeitgeist, black churches are the most fun, lively singing and music, and 'testifying' is always a hoot!

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River Tam wrote:
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I go to church regularly, Eagle. My girlfriend is a Christian. They don't know we're gay. She's afraid to let them know so we don't hold hands or anything.
I find that odd but I don't say anything. Such a wonderful place and yet she's afraid of them. Afraid that those wonderful people will find out that she and I get naked together and have girl sex.
I keep telling her that they're going to find out sooner or later. I'm not shy about being lesbian, ya know? I'm not afraid of those people or their 3 gods.
It's not a bad experience for me. I get to be with her and everybody looks and smells good. I like the songs.
Not to brag, or advertise, but there IS a church where you will be welcomed, accepted and celebrated.

And the dress is informal.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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Nagasaki and Hiroshima were the two most "Christian" cities in Japan, especially Nagasaki.
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I am happy to have given you an excuse to rant, little one.
However, note I said "most". Those were the survivors of persecutions by the government over a long period of time. Christianity had made inroads in Asia a long time ago. Even Japan in the 1500's or before. Christianity is a threat to all authoritarian regimes.
Why do you have to be so damn unlikable?

A mean spirit is what you have.

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River Tam wrote:
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Christianity has always been a threat.
"Here Native American. Take our smallpox blankets in exchange for your food for our survival. Deal?"
There are about 20 million Christians in China. Christianity is allowed in China. Religions are regulated. There are more Muslims in China than Christians. That pisses Christians off but there's really nothing they can do about it except stomp their feet and spit.
That's what I don't like: the spitting.

The yelling I can deal with.

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I'm stumped, even with Google translate: There where you were, do what you saw. I'd guess it's similar to "Wherever you go, there you are."
Haz lo que vieras: Do what you see (others doing).

When in Rome....
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It wasn't the weaponry in the hands of the Europeans that conquered the natives. It was the natives wanting to get their hands on those weapons to conquer their local enemies that did.
You're poor knowledge of history is appalling!
Please sell your "Encyclopedia Moronica".

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Nothing you said above, refutes my observation about the evil nature of your ugly godling.
As such, I'll accept that you agree:
Seven Godly Sins
When god destroys people for not obeying him, it is WRATH
When god punishes people for believing in a different god, it is ENVY
When god lets tragedies and disasters happen of which he could have prevented, it is SLOTH
When god allows anyone to hunger unnecessarily while he has enough for himself, it is GLUTTONY
When god expects his followers to dedicate their lives to worrshipping and praying to him, it is PRIDE
When god insists his followers pay tithes and offerings for his approval, it is GREED
When god intends on being party to every marriage, it is LUST
You can't put thoughts in my head, as much as you try. That is how you see God, not I. It shows you do believe.

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Why do you have to be so damn unlikable?
A mean spirit is what you have.
I bet you say that to everyone that doesn't agree with you, Catcher. Even little old ladies.

Then you will sue them, take their house and and social security checks, and then dump them on the street.

You will show them the price of not being righteous like you.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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The Empire was run by an evil Sith lord dictator, that must be why you like it.
No I don't like it, however it is better than atheism. You guys are like in the basement. Dead last place for pleasantries. Because Vader had a soul in the end he changed, Stalin had no soul, therefore.
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Not to brag, or advertise, but there IS a church where you will be welcomed, accepted and celebrated.
And the dress is informal.
How informal?

Two band aids and a cork?
What style of fig leaf is in this fall?

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Imhotep wrote:
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You're poor knowledge of history is appalling!
Please sell your "Encyclopedia Moronica".
I would say yours is sadly lacking in depth.

Yours consists of the topical buzzwords for the advancement of an idiotology.

You don't seem to understand real people.

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Haz lo que vieras: Do what you see (others doing).
When in Rome....
A hah!!

I was right!

Usually am. Or something like that.

Pretty good comprehension and association skills, eh? Went strictly by IANS Google translation.

You should listen to me, Catcher.

You're an idiot.

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I_see_you wrote:
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In America we are free to have people who do not agree with religion.
Different people have different ideas and thoughts and opinions, so if the religious people can use different names to distinguish the difference in opinion to start with then I don't see why other people cannot. You seem to be much more intolerant to things than you once portrayed yourself to be.
I don't agree with you that I am not tolerant. I do not claim you should not have your church. I am not against you voicing your opinion here, although overall I do think it is asinine, to attempt to convert others, or to question someone to prove what they all ready told you was their faith. I only question yours because you would claim it as proven, which by all means I know is not true and you are delusional for claiming it is.

I don't even question your claims, I just understand your truth is different from mine, and that is even excluding the curves quantum physics may offer.

The fact I would never vote for an atheist is pure political opinion. It would be very nice if I was to have a Buddhist option, but that never seems to happen.
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Robert Stevens wrote:
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... Make no mistake about it, I view you as sub human for having your beliefs....
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Robert Stevens wrote:
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...I view atheism as more of an evil cult than Christianity.
Page 8662.

An atheist is simply someone who believes in one fewer god than you.

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I_see_you wrote:
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This is a default answer that you know is incorrect when you type it, and you simply look to stir emotion from it. Factually, you have no solid proof for a god, you only hope, and believe, or have "faith" that there is one.
I disagree with you. I do have solid proof of God you just refuse to recognize it. As I refuse to recognize your stories of a God that is not perfect. You are confused because your made up God that is not perfect has no proof. Why would you wish to promote a culture of people that can't be inspired, and have no souls? It is no wonder the Japanese use to beat The Chinese like red headed step children, and although Russia took Finland the Finnish killed 10+ to 1 Russians. The art scene of these sinkholes. I am sure a soul may occasionally be inspired to create, but overall those places suck.

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Dave Nelson wrote:
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I bet you say that to everyone that doesn't agree with you, Catcher. Even little old ladies.
Then you will sue them, take their house and and social security checks, and then dump them on the street.
You will show them the price of not being righteous like you.
No, it's your habit of patronizing, and demeaning.

Especially women.

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