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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180641 Oct 19, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Freedom is great, yes.
Too bad you lack it.
I understand what you are saying. I'm like Paul in that I'm a prisoner of the Lord Jesus Christ. But our Jail Houst rocks! lol,...
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180642 Oct 19, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Lie.
It's a lie that is easily refuted, too.
For example: the Harry Potter series? Easily outsold all the bibles in all the languages, in all the versions, for many years in a row.
And the #1 DIFFERENCE?
People bought the Harry Potter books.... to READ.
In contrast to the bibles, of which 90% were purchased to put into pews unread, or to be given away (again--unread) or to lie gathering dust on someone's shelf (unread).
The ***majority*** of bibles printed? WERE NEVER-EVER EVEN READ BY ANYONE.
I know it hurts Bob, the truth does that.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180643 Oct 19, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
In recent weeks, a spate of especially appalling jihadist attacks occurred—one on a shopping mall in Nairobi, where non-Muslims appear to have been systematically tortured before being murdered; one on a church in Peshawar; and one on a school playground in Baghdad, targeting children.
Whenever I point out the role that religious ideology plays in atrocities of this kind—specifically the Islamic doctrines related to jihad, martyrdom, apostasy, and so forth—I am met with some version of the following:“Bad people will always do these things. Religion is nothing more than a pretext.” This is an increasingly dangerous misconception to have about the human mind.
My pick for the most terrifying and depressing phenomenon on earth: A smart, capable, compassionate, and honorable person grows infected with ludicrous ideas about a holy book and a waiting paradise, and then becomes capable of murdering innocent people—even children—while in a state of religious ecstasy.
Needless to say, this problem is rendered all the more terrifying and depressing because so many of us deny that it even exists.
To imagine that one is a holy warrior bound for Paradise might seem delusional, but we live in a world where perfectly sane people are led to believe such floridly crazy things in the name of religion.
This is primarily a social and cultural issue, not a psychological one. There is no clear line between what members of the Taliban, al Qaeda, and al Shabab believe about Islam and the “true” Islam.
In fact, these groups have as good a claim as any to being impeccable Muslims. This presents an enormous threat to civil society, which apologists for Islam and secular liberals can now be counted upon to obfuscate.
Their determination that “moderate” Islam not be blamed for the acts of “extremists” causes them to deny that genuine (and theologically justifiable) religious beliefs can inspire psychologically normal people to commit horrific acts of violence.
Take a moment to consider the actions of the Taliban gunman who shot Malala Yousafzai in the head. How is it that this man came to board a school bus with the intention of murdering a 15-year-old girl? Absent ideology, this could have only been the work of a psychotic or a psychopath.
No doubt the assassin who tried to kill her believed that he was doing God’s work. He was probably a perfectly normal man—perhaps even a father himself—and that is what is so disturbing.
The fact that otherwise normal people can be infected by destructive religious beliefs is crucial to understand—because beliefs spread. Until moderate Muslims and secular liberals stop misplacing the blame for this evil, they will remain part of the problem. Yes, our drone strikes in Pakistan kill innocent people—and this undoubtedly creates new enemies for the West. But we wouldn’t need to drop a single bomb on Pakistan, or anywhere else, if a death cult of devout Muslims weren’t making life miserable for millions of innocent people and posing an unacceptable threat of violence to open societies.
Malala did not win a Nobel prize this week, and it is probably good for her that she didn’t. She absolutely deserved it—far more than several recent recipients have—but this recognition would have made her security concerns even more excruciating than they probably are already. Her nomination is said to have noticeably increased anti-Western sentiment in Pakistan—a fact that deserves some honest reflection on the part of Islam’s apologists. If for nothing else, we can be grateful to the Taliban for reminding us of what so many civilized people seem eager to forget: This is both a war of ideas and a very bloody war—and we must win it.
- See more at: http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/no-ordinar...
It’s those 900 virgins that make them do that.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180644 Oct 19, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Not, if I've been there, it don't... I always take those ugly books for re-use as other stuff.
Common uses for a Gideon bible
(Warning! Do not read it-- it will make an atheists out of you)
## propping up a crooked table leg-- an adjustable prop, simply discard any excess pages until it's the perfect thickness
## propping up Junior at a table, so he can reach his plate-- it's also absorbent, in case of any accidental "spills". Use two or three if needed (duct tape them together so they don't slip)
## as a handy step-up to get to things on the high shelves-- use two if needed, interlace the covers to help keep them from slipping
## as emergency toilet paper-- I recommend keeping a couple of gideons in the bathroom, on the top of the tank, just in case you run out of the regular kind. Hint: if you rip out the pages, then crumple them up, then re-smooth, then repeat? It softens the pages, and makes them more absorbent too.
## as rolling papers for your friends who like to make their own tokes
## as emergency note-paper-- you can typically write in the margins-- useful for those last minute list-making, or emergency license plate write-downs (especially after you've just been hit-and-run by a car sporting those warning-fish symbols-- those are the worst)
## as an excellent source of craft paper for your paper machiae projects. The super-thin paper really conforms to your project's needs, especially when saturated with glue.
## those pages really make for the most excellent paper airplanes-- super light, but take folding quite well.
## Isn't it time you took up Origami? The super-thin rice paper in those gideons is perfect for those intricate paper-folding projects
## emergency liquid absorbers-- see the one about emergency toilet paper for tips on how to make those gideons even more absorbent
## shims-- when installing new windows or doors, who remembers to buy those thin wooden shims, to center the window/door in the frame? Use pages from an old gideon instead--it's perfectly customizable for the exact thickness needed. And the holding nails go right through without a problem.(irony noted)
## Roof patches-- bothered by sudden punctures in your roof? But it's raining, and you cannot safely patch the hole? Tear out several pages from a gideon, and roll it into a sharp cone-- force that into the hole, to temporarily stop the rain.
## emergency diapers for Junior-- out and about, and you run out of diapers for Junior? And you need a quick substitute? Simply tear out pages from that old gideon, and use that to wrap Junior's neither parts, use his regular (outer) pants to hold it all on, until you get home. Be generous-- there are plenty more gideons where that came from.
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These are just a few suggestions for re-purposing those old bibles.
Just don't READ it-- reading it'll make an **atheist** out of you!
Bob let's sit down and have some hot coffee.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#180645 Oct 19, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Nagasaki and Hiroshima were the two most "Christian" cities in Japan, especially Nagasaki.
Eagle 12 wrote:
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I didn't know that, thank you.
Did that old fool say "christian"?

He meant Crispy.
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180646 Oct 19, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I would say yours is sadly lacking in depth.
Yours consists of the topical buzzwords for the advancement of an idiotology.
You don't seem to understand real people.
Real people? Like Jesus?
Rubbish!

I have no need to lie. You must.
You live in your own private dreamworld.
If that makes you happy I'm glad for you but don't waste my time spouting your nonsense.
Save that for your church congregation, where ignorance is the norm and reason is ignored.

There you will find a willing attentive audience.

Here you're only friends are as delusional as you.
Some even surpass your level of religious dementia.

Anyway, your posts remind me of the ravings of lunatic asylum patients.

Green vapor? LOL

Did the aliens talk to you during the experiments?it's obvious they forgot to remove the anal probe!

"Once upon a time in a land far far away "
Please insert this on top of all future post to me.

Jesus love you... but I think you're thought processes are severely damaged by his love.

Next time you meet with him ask how my buddy Allah is doing. He could offer different color vapors that will be in season this fall!
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180647 Oct 19, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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It’s those 900 virgins that make them do that.
Being a virgin in heaven would NOT be paradise for virgins!

Picture this - you live a perfect life your chaste, you die - you go to heaven a Muslim virgin woman only to be repeatedly raped over and over by martyrs awaiting their 72 biggies each!

Now all that's what I call a great faith!
I doubt Muslim women share the same enthusiasm.

Isn't religion great?

If this religious nonsense were true...
(A postcard to me, delivered by an angel from paradise would suffice as evidence)

I would convert to a Muslim, fly a jet into a mega televangelist church, destroy the infidels inside and gain my 72 virgins in paradise!

I would even go to a Christian orphanage and offer them a free 747 airplane ride!

Who knows when dabbling in superstition anything is possible. Those extra kiddies my gain me another 25 virgins!

Or do I sign up?

Lol

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#180648 Oct 19, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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"NO WAR HAS EVER BEEN STARTED OVER AN ATHEIST IDEOLOGY."
Marx, Lenin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot
Error try again atheism isn't an ideology

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#180649 Oct 19, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
As usual, defeated creationists have a lot of ignorant opinions to share, but NO proof of god.
When will these bitter losers realise that opinions never convert anyone but FACTs do?
And the fact is that you're liars with no proof of god. It always comes back to this undeniable fact.
If there was no proof of God, you would not talk about him, her or it?

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#180650 Oct 19, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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There is no such thing as anti religious, because there is no such thing as god in the first place.
Atheists are not anti-religious - we just ignore the mentally ill ramblings of disproven crap which you've been peddling for years with ZERO results and evidence.
You find the truth insulting because your cult has brainwashed you into believing you are right, when you have no evidence whatsoever and are lying.
The words you say betray their meanings. If you really consider your statement and the fact you are making it. Why do I bother as I previously pointed out your comprehension skills are greatly challenged.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#180651 Oct 19, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Atheists don't deny god, because denial assumes you've already proved your god, which you haven't.
This lie is your favourite one. Even though its been explained to you that atheists don't deny, they disbelieve in your lying cult crap. And with good reasons.
And you can not prove their is not one. I find it small of you that you can't admit that.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#180652 Oct 19, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Evolution is a fact - the people that deny the fact of evolution are deluded fools who are scared of going to their doctor to get DNA evidence in their faces.
Your god myth is no substitute for years of hard evidence showing evolution to be true and undeniable - or at least among mentally well people.
It is but, this monkey business of yours. Our feet are way too different and we'd be able to fight off a 50 pound monkey, more likely man handle it.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#180653 Oct 19, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Your ignorance is at best astonishing and at worst, willfully deceptive.
It is my faith, and until you could prove yours, which you won't ever be able to do. I could say the same about you.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#180654 Oct 19, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
God is not something you prove but something you experience.
The Bible has been tested over time. It remains the number one seller of all time throughout the ages. It contains 66 books, of history, warfare & military tactics still taught today in war colleges, poetry, advice, procedures that are used in the medical field, procedures used in industry, love stories, lust, spying, crimes, punishment, conspiracies, murder, conflict resolutions, employer & employee relations, fire science (first back draft recorded), marital advice, prophecy, and much much more.
And you want someone to prove it to you?
Very true. They do know this but they are part of a cult.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#180655 Oct 19, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
I do have solid proof of God
<quoted text>Solid proof , as compared to liquid proof.
But does he have any gaseous proof?
My solid proof is this morning.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#180656 Oct 19, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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My solid proof is this morning.

Oh,....Please elaborate, as this is a very vague answer.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#180657 Oct 19, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
God is not something you prove but something you experience.
The Bible has been tested over time. It remains the number one seller of all time throughout the ages. It contains 66 books, of history, warfare & military tactics still taught today in war colleges, poetry, advice, procedures that are used in the medical field, procedures used in industry, love stories, lust, spying, crimes, punishment, conspiracies, murder, conflict resolutions, employer & employee relations, fire science (first back draft recorded), marital advice, prophecy, and much much more.
And you want someone to prove it to you?
Yes.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#180658 Oct 19, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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"NO WAR HAS EVER BEEN STARTED OVER AN ATHEIST IDEOLOGY."
Marx, Lenin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot
What about them?

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#180659 Oct 19, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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That’s something I didn’t know, that you attended church.
There’s nothing wrong with having friends you love. But I want to ask you a question. Do you see yourself being a lesbian for the rest of your life? Even as you are in your elderly years?
I don’t judge you for that’s not my place. People change over time and relationships come and go. But what will be your future 20, 30 or even 40 years from now? Will you be happy or will you look back and have heartfelt regrets?
Well lets see. You're a grandfather, right? Have you ever looked back and wished you had been gay?

Contrary to what you may have heard, being homosexual isn't a choice, Eagle. It's not something I can change even if I wanted to. I'm happy the way I am.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180660 Oct 19, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Being a virgin in heaven would NOT be paradise for virgins!
Picture this - you live a perfect life your chaste, you die - you go to heaven a Muslim virgin woman only to be repeatedly raped over and over by martyrs awaiting their 72 biggies each!
Now all that's what I call a great faith!
I doubt Muslim women share the same enthusiasm.
Isn't religion great?
If this religious nonsense were true...
(A postcard to me, delivered by an angel from paradise would suffice as evidence)
I would convert to a Muslim, fly a jet into a mega televangelist church, destroy the infidels inside and gain my 72 virgins in paradise!
I would even go to a Christian orphanage and offer them a free 747 airplane ride!
Who knows when dabbling in superstition anything is possible. Those extra kiddies my gain me another 25 virgins!
Or do I sign up?
Lol
“Being a virgin in heaven would NOT be paradise for virgins!”

“I doubt Muslim women share the same enthusiasm.
Isn't religion great?”

Maybe there’s going to be a flip flop and the men will be the virgins and the women will be the men. Payback?

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