Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180620 Oct 19, 2013
chipped nails wrote:
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It took a proctologist with a nutcracker to find your brain.
At least I **have** a brain...

... you?

Not so much.

I guess it was too much Jesus what damaged your brains.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#180621 Oct 19, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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I do have solid proof of God
Not only is this complete bullsh*t, but you know it too and know that you are lying about this - completely shamelessly, with not a shred of evidence.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#180622 Oct 19, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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In regards to your last response. Please stop acting so stupid. Why else would you want to challenge someone after they confessed they have faith not absolute proof. It makes all else you say so under handed. See you go beyond being anti-religion when you do that. Now you are trying to persuade, attempt to claim the absolute proven answer. That my friend is a religious movement. It is exactly why I would understand someone being anti-religion. In my book you offer the worse part of religion, without any of it's good. That is why I would never vote for someone of your sort. When you know what hits the fan, your sort will not be able to maintain their populist. You bitch about GW, and I never voted for him, but now you could see how good of a job he did keeping his populist quiet.
Your ignorance is at best astonishing and at worst, willfully deceptive.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180623 Oct 19, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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No book has ever outsold the Bible in the history of Print.
Lie.

It's a lie that is easily refuted, too.

For example: the Harry Potter series? Easily outsold all the bibles in all the languages, in all the versions, for many years in a row.

And the #1 DIFFERENCE?

People bought the Harry Potter books.... to READ.

In contrast to the bibles, of which 90% were purchased to put into pews unread, or to be given away (again--unread) or to lie gathering dust on someone's shelf (unread).

The ***majority*** of bibles printed? WERE NEVER-EVER EVEN READ BY ANYONE.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180624 Oct 19, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Agree
Some are entertaining, others bizarre, some are hate filled and blame us for societies ills.
I cannot - take serious... Gods.
'Our' theists add trouble, subtract pleasure, divide attention, and multiply ignorance. ;)
Simple LOGIC seems to annoy them.
They yearn for immortality yet fail to really consider paradise problems.
Hmm
Toilets in heaven?
Who cooks the food?
Those that renounce their earthly evil ways but get free admission... Provided they beg forgiveness PRIOR to death.
What a 'steaming pile of dogma'.
The Religious-Right wants to keep deformed fetuses and vegetable state victims alive while they approve of the killing of innocent women, children, and men in their "moral" wars, and thorough their cutting of social services.
Harrumph!
These religious institutions are in irreversible decline. They are ruled by moral and intellectual trolls. They have become arrogant and self-absorbed. Their sins are many. They protected criminals. They pandered to the lowest common denominator and illusions of personal fulfillment and surrendered their moral authority. They did not fight the corporate tyrants who have impoverished us. They refused to denounce a caste of Christian heretics embodied by the Christian right and have, for their cowardice, been usurped by bizarre proto-fascists clutching the Christian cross.
They have nothing left to say. And their aging congregants, who are fleeing the church in droves, know it. But don’t think the world will be a better place for their demise.But it's a good start!
Indeed.

The modern Tea Party, for example?

Everything they stand for-- is the exact opposite of the Traditional Bible's Jesus.

The exact opposite.

Yet?

If you ask a typical tea-bagger if he follows Jesus? He will tell you he does-- and at length, with side-paragraphs too.....

.. wait... what...?

It's sad that these people demonstrate such cognitive dissonance.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180625 Oct 19, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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I could not agree more.
I use formulaic(canned) posts replies often.
I have something for everything from facts to humor to insults if attacked.
'Turning the other cheek' only get you two black eyes instead of one.
Indeed.

Yet-- I have failed to see even **one**(1) example of a Genuine Jesus Follower™ turn the other cheek...

... in fact?

It's quite the opposite...!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180626 Oct 19, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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There are over 450,000 churches in the United States according to Premier Tourism Marketing's website and a few others.
“Simple LOGIC“????
You use simple LOGIC?
As in simpleton?
“arrogant and self-absorbed,” Oh you mean like yourself?
“who are fleeing the church in droves,”
I guess that’s why a church purchased the “Summit” in Houston Texas. Their crowds were getting so small.
On the world stage? People are quitting the churches in record numbers.

In Germany, for example, so many churches are now empty, that they are being sold off-- they cannot afford the upkeep. And these are properties that had been church for 300 years and more.

Here in the USA? Pick any random city-- and within it, you will find countless abandoned properties belonging to former churches. There are 5 within easy distance of my house, for example. Oh, sure, there is still 3 that are barely clinging to life, but more abandoned buildings than ones still in use.(and I know the 3 are barely hanging on: due to the near-total lack of paint on their exposed wooden surfaces...)

So yes-- people are leaving church in droves.

You are too self-blind to recognize this fact.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180627 Oct 19, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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It's brainwashing.
Innocent children, scarred, some of them for life.
And you don't get it, because you yourself were victimized and ended up a godbot.
Exactly!

But, due to the recent innovations of social media, via the interwebs?

More and more kids are finding that being a godbot is not permanent-- there is a cure.

And the cure, as with many things, is facts.

The internet really is the death-knell for religion.
Imhotep

Sevierville, TN

#180628 Oct 19, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Why do you have to be so damn unlikable?
A mean spirit is what you have.
I like David. He is pure comedy fodder.

I nuttier, the better!
Topix is only entertainment for me.
I have no agenda to promote.

I enjoy reading their posts, then throwing in the proverbial 'monkey wrench' and watch the usual squirming around.

Scripture posters are especially funny. My favorite!:)
I give them the SAB to level the playing field. A fighting chance so to speak. Few have ever read their bibles.

There are, of course, many sins one can commit in the eyes of religion. Among the greatest is the sin of having an original thought. Religion disapproves of original thought the way Dracula disapproves of sunlight.
Imhotep

Sevierville, TN

#180629 Oct 19, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Indeed.
Yet-- I have failed to see even **one**(1) example of a Genuine Jesus Follower™ turn the other cheek...
... in fact?
It's quite the opposite...!
Me either, you take the time to address point by point. I applaud that and always find you're posts interesting.

I've written many pieces over the years and just c/p them as warranted by the content of the post.

When they get insulting... my evil twin emerges, to taunt them, the madder they get, the harder I laugh. Do I stop annoying them? NEVER!

I am Ultra-Liberal, Skeptical, Cynical, Sarcastic, and do care what one mammal on this planet thinks about it.

Am I evil?
nah... some doofus god created that!
Imhotep

Sevierville, TN

#180630 Oct 19, 2013
chipped nails wrote:
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It took a proctologist with a nutcracker to find your brain.
Bob found your're brain X-ray on the internet, wonderful post!!
How proud you must be not to use a proctologist.

http://www.thebluething.com/media/Homer-Simps...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#180632 Oct 19, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
" ... there is no evidence to clearly support the existence of Joseph, or Moses, or the Israeli Exodus"
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/moses...
Eagle 12 wrote:
No Evidence??? Or No Evidence you want to admit.

Leading Egyptian Daily 'Al-Ahram' Reports: Coins from Era of Biblical Joseph Found in Egypt. According to a report in the Egyptian daily Al-Ahram, by Wajih Al-Saqqar, archeologists have discovered ancient Egyptian coins bearing the name and image of the Biblical Joseph.
"In an unprecedented find, a group of Egyptian researchers and archeologists has discovered a cache of coins from the time of the Pharaohs. Its importance lies in the fact that it provides decisive scientific evidence disproving the claim by some historians that the ancient Egyptians were unfamiliar with coins and conducted their trade through barter. "The researchers discovered the coins when they sifted through thousands of small archeological artifacts stored in [the vaults of] the Museum of Egypt.[Initially] they took them for charms, but a thorough examination revealed that the coins bore the year in which they were minted and their value, or effigies of the pharaohs [who ruled] at the time of their minting. Some of the coins are from the time when Joseph lived in Egypt, and bear his name and portrait. "There used to be a misconception that trade [in Ancient Egypt] was conducted through barter, and that Egyptian wheat, for example, was traded for other goods. But surprisingly, Koranic verses indicate clearly that coins were used in Egypt in the time of Joseph. "Research team head Dr. Sa'id Muhammad Thabet said that during his archeological research on the Prophet Joseph, he had discovered in the vaults of the [Egyptian] Antiquities Authority and of the National Museum many charms from various eras before and after the period of Joseph, including one that bore his effigy as the minister of the treasury in the Egyptian pharaoh's court… "One Coin...[Had] an Image of a Cow Symbolizing Pharaoh's Dream about the Seven Fat Cows and Seven Lean Cows"
"The researcher identified coins from many different periods, including coins that bore special markings identifying them as being from the era of Joseph. Among these, there was one coin that had an inscription on it, and an image of a cow symbolizing Pharaoh's dream about the seven fat cows and seven lean cows, and the seven green stalks of grain and seven dry stalks of grain. It was found that the inscriptions of this early period were usually simple, since writing was still in its early stages, and consequently there was difficulty in deciphering the writing on these coins. But the research team [managed to] translate [the writing on the coin] by comparing it to the earliest known hieroglyphic texts… "Joseph's name appears twice on this coin, written in hieroglyphs: once the original name, Joseph, and once his Egyptian name, Saba Sabani, which was given to him by Pharaoh when he became treasurer. There is also an image of Joseph, who was part of the Egyptian administration at the time.
http://www.memri.org/report/en/print3663.htm
This presents an excellent opportunity to consider the concept of evidence - if you're interested and willing.

[1] What do you think your post provides evidence of? To be a rebuttal of Imhotep's post, it should be evidence of the existence of Joseph, Moses or the Exodus. Do you think that the above is that? I would say that it is not. I would say that it is evidence that the ancient Egyptians used coins, and that one of the legends that survives today goes back to the time that Jospeh was said to have lived.

[cont.]

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#180633 Oct 19, 2013
[2] You've probably heard the expression "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." Do you agree? I don't, although I would add a word: "Absence of EXPECTED evidence is not evidence of absence." That is, if we would expect certain evidence to be present had something that is claimed actually occurred, and it is not, that that is evidence that the claim is invalid.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180634 Oct 19, 2013
God is not something you prove but something you experience.

The Bible has been tested over time. It remains the number one seller of all time throughout the ages. It contains 66 books, of history, warfare & military tactics still taught today in war colleges, poetry, advice, procedures that are used in the medical field, procedures used in industry, love stories, lust, spying, crimes, punishment, conspiracies, murder, conflict resolutions, employer & employee relations, fire science (first back draft recorded), marital advice, prophecy, and much much more.

And you want someone to prove it to you?
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180635 Oct 19, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
It's good to hear you had such a good day.:)
Thank you [Tipping Hat]

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#180636 Oct 19, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
I do have solid proof of God
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Not only is this complete bullsh*t, but you know it too and know that you are lying about this - completely shamelessly, with not a shred of evidence.
Solid proof , as compared to liquid proof.
But does he have any gaseous proof?
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180637 Oct 19, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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I go to church regularly, Eagle. My girlfriend is a Christian. They don't know we're gay. She's afraid to let them know so we don't hold hands or anything.
I find that odd but I don't say anything. Such a wonderful place and yet she's afraid of them. Afraid that those wonderful people will find out that she and I get naked together and have girl sex.
I keep telling her that they're going to find out sooner or later. I'm not shy about being lesbian, ya know? I'm not afraid of those people or their 3 gods.
It's not a bad experience for me. I get to be with her and everybody looks and smells good. I like the songs.
That’s something I didn’t know, that you attended church.

There’s nothing wrong with having friends you love. But I want to ask you a question. Do you see yourself being a lesbian for the rest of your life? Even as you are in your elderly years?

I don’t judge you for that’s not my place. People change over time and relationships come and go. But what will be your future 20, 30 or even 40 years from now? Will you be happy or will you look back and have heartfelt regrets?
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180638 Oct 19, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Nagasaki and Hiroshima were the two most "Christian" cities in Japan, especially Nagasaki.
I didn't know that, thank you.
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180639 Oct 19, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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All Geman cities were filled with Christians!
The allied air forces leveled them! Including Dresden, Where the greatest loss if life occurred.
WAR has NO RULES.
Kill or be killed. Winner take all.
Hamburg suffered the first known firestorm early in the war courtesy of the British.
So save your pity for the Japanese.
They reaped their own harvest just like the Germans. They had ZERO pity or compassion for prisoners.
And right here at home during the Civil War Gen. Sherman decided that he would burn everything in his path as he cut a path of destruction through Georgia. Livestock were either eaten or destroyed crops were either eaten or burned houses were burned and he quoted to phrase "war is hell".
The southern prisoner of war camp at Andersonville was a true horror worthy of the Nazis.
Although I am reluctant to use this quote...
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
NO WAR HAS EVER BEEN STARTED OVER AN ATHEIST IDEOLOGY.
We cannot say the same for religious wars.
"NO WAR HAS EVER BEEN STARTED OVER AN ATHEIST IDEOLOGY."

Marx, Lenin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#180640 Oct 19, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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On the world stage? People are quitting the churches in record numbers.
In Germany, for example, so many churches are now empty, that they are being sold off-- they cannot afford the upkeep. And these are properties that had been church for 300 years and more.
Here in the USA? Pick any random city-- and within it, you will find countless abandoned properties belonging to former churches. There are 5 within easy distance of my house, for example. Oh, sure, there is still 3 that are barely clinging to life, but more abandoned buildings than ones still in use.(and I know the 3 are barely hanging on: due to the near-total lack of paint on their exposed wooden surfaces...)
So yes-- people are leaving church in droves.
You are too self-blind to recognize this fact.
I’m not in Europe so I don’t know about what is happening there. I can’t blame some Europeans for hating dead dried up boring churches with boring and uncaring ministers.

Where I live now there’s a church on nearly every corner and everyone is filled to capacity. The same was for Houston when I lived there. Churches were thriving.

Thank you for telling me about Oklahoma.
We’re going to have to pray for your city. Texans have always had a kinship to Oklahoma. We have considered it part of our rich history. There’s not a Texan anywhere who doesn’t love Oklahoma.

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