Hawkins would be the first to admit that his theories are theories, they are not and should never be used as evidence<quoted text>
"What theory tells us is that from an initial state in which matter and radiation are both in an extremely hot and dense form, the universe expands and the matter cools."
You are quite the woman. Men experienced in trying to reason with them will understand what I mean.
Let me continue his statement
At that time, it is believed that all four of the fundamental forces of naturegravity, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forceswere unified.
Notice the it is believed so stop cherry picking because we are not all as deliberately ignorant as you
You would not know reason if it sat on your face and farted. You have given two examples one actually claimed AFTER and the other stated IT IS BELIEVED and you are stamping your foot and shouting your BELIEF that goddidit by magic must be right.
Reason and logic are not renowned in davesworld are they?