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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#180271 Oct 16, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Another Atheist canned answer, recycled material.
You really don't have an answer to your Gods murdering rampages do you? You accept that fact and continue to worship, unbelievable!!!!
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#180272 Oct 16, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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RUBBISH
My God Can Beat Up Your God (Richard Bamford)
Do you know his name?
Sure you do.
He talks to you every day.
You could not live a normal life without him.
You believe in him, whether you like it or not.
Unless you abandon him completely, you cannot deny he exists.
My god is a more personal god than yours can ever be, for if you have enough sense to understand these words, my god lives within you.
He lives within us all, to some degree.
A heartbreaking few cannot understand him, but this is not their fault.
The real tragedy is the multitudes who ignore much of his counsel, particularly when he questions your god too deeply.
My god has been around longer than your god. He was here before the many other gods that preceded your god. Though you will likely scoff at the notion, my god was the father of your god, as he was to all gods.
But that was long ago when he was young and not yet sure of himself. Though many of your god's followers try to hold him down, my god grows stronger and more independent each day.
When your god expelled us from paradise for eating an apple, my god taught us to grow our own fruit.
• When your god forbade knowledge, demanding we live in ignorance, my god created books.
• When your god smote cities like a tantrum-prone child, my god helped to rebuild them.
• When your god insisted the world was flat, my god showed his followers it was round, to their peril at the hands of your god's followers.
• While your god watched in silence as children sickened and died, my god created medicines to make them well.
• When your god winked and nodded at slavery, my god argued passionately against it.
• While your god represses half the human race, my god considers woman to be the equal of man.
• When your god only helps those who help themselves, my god rolls up his sleeves and actually does help until your god decides to join in, and then steals all the credit.
• When your god inspired great buildings and great art, my god made them possible.
• While your god says we are all born sinners, tainted before we even draw breath, my god says we are all born innocent; a clean slate with limitless potential.
• While your god offers dubious allusions of an afterlife, my god provides for us here in this life.
• While your god makes amazing promises, but offers not a shred of proof, my god performs amazing deeds, and the proof is there to be seen by all.
• While your god demands blind faith and obsequious obedience, my god encourages questions, even about himself.
• When your god says "Thou shalt not," my god says "You can do anything."
My god is reason.
He does more in a day than your god will ever do.
What is Narcissism?

Narcissism is a personality disorder in which the person falls in love with himself. The narcissist has got an inflated sense of self worth, he thinks that he is better than most people, that he is a superior person and that he is invulnerable. If one of your friends is a narcissist you can easily identify him by his continues talk about his marvelous achievements, his outstanding intelligence or his breath taking beauty.

http://www.2knowmyself.com/Pathological_Narci...
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180273 Oct 16, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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So by definition the key words are “theory” and “belief.”
Both of which require a higher cognizant of intelligence.
No babies I have ever seen come out stamped “Atheist.”
But if the thought all infants are Atheist makes you have a smooth bowel movement then go ahead Doctor let her rip.
So by definiion
You cannot define your religion BECAUSE You Do not understand it's origin. You've never studied it. I have and many others.

I doubt that you've ever read you're Bible in its entirety.

"A thing is not proved just because no one has ever questioned it. What has never been gone into impartially has never been properly gone into.
Hence scepticism is the first step toward truth. It must be applied generally, because it is the touchstone."
~Denis Diderot, French author, encyclopedist, & philosopher (1713 - 1784)

< sips brandy>
< fires pipe>

Mocks silly... Jesus Roach©- True Believer®- True Christian™

10 important questions to be asked by any rational person as a guide to the question of whether or not there is a christian God.

1. If logic is the hallmark that separates man from beast, why is religion then a matter of "faith", rather than rationality?

2. If something cannot be proved, then why do people continue to believe in it?

3. If there is a God, which is the real one and how come when a culture nolonger exists neither do its gods? Isis? Ra? Neptune? Zeus? Apollo? Thor?
Quetzacoatle?

-- Alternate Question if 3. Is irrelevant to you -

3a. Why is your religion any more TRUE than other religions? Catholic, Protestant (any of many sects) Islam? Judaism? Hindu?

4. If the Christian God is monotheistic how can it also be triune with Jesus & the Holy Spirit?

5. If God was the father of Jesus via the "immaculate conception", wasn't Mary technically raped & impregnated against her will?

6. If Jesus was born to a mother who was unwed doesn't that make him a bastard?

7. If "Christ died for your sins on the cross", how much of a sacrifice was it really, considering he's immortal?

8. Why do people continue to believe in religion's gods when promises made for thousands of years have yet to be delivered, whereas, science has shown us the earth is NOT flat, the earth revolves around the sun and not the other way around, medicine heals but prayers don't, and although we can't literally walk on water we can circumnavigate the globe underwater in a submarine and fly to the moon?

9. If God made the earth and then created a great flood to wipe it out, how could a perfect, infallible being make something needing to be destroyed and begun anew?

10. If God "gave his only son" to save us from our sins, then why do we have to do anything?

I agree with number 10 - I don't need to do anything!

PS:
If you were twice as smart, you'd still be stupid.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#180274 Oct 16, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
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I'm not sure if it would be considered a proof of love, but science can show us the difference in brain activity when we are thinking about or looking at a picture of the one, or the ones we love. It's really interesting :)
Yes it is and I know they are pushing the envelope in this area all the time.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#180275 Oct 16, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>You really don't have an answer to your Gods murdering rampages do you? You accept that fact and continue to worship, unbelievable!!!!
Believe as you wish my good Doctor. I still love you in my heart.
Eagle 12

Troy, IL

#180276 Oct 16, 2013
I_see_you wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with that!!!!
I hated all that crap and still do. What a waste of classroom time.
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180277 Oct 16, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Problems with word meanings I think;
1.) You KNOW that gravity exists.....you BELIVE God exists
2.) You KNOW that germs exist, even though you have never seen one......you BELIVE God exists
3.) You KNOW that the moon is not made of cheese, even though you have never been there....you believe God exists
4.) You KNOW Pluto orbits the sun, even though you nor anyone else on the planet has ever witnessed even one orbit...you believe God exists.
Get the point? All of the KNOWS are validated by science. Your beliefs are NOT
No he doesn't get the point. He does have a point though... He wears a hat to hide it!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180278 Oct 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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He is laughing because you are a cry baby and idiot for making these statement. Why would we bake you, when we know The Devil is waiting to do it. No need for over kill.
Seven Godly Sins

When god destroys people for not obeying him, it is WRATH

When god punishes people for believing in a different god, it is ENVY

When god lets tragedies and disasters happen of which he could have prevented, it is SLOTH

When god allows anyone to hunger unnecessarily while he has enough for himself, it is GLUTTONY

When god expects his followers to dedicate their lives to worrshipping and praying to him, it is PRIDE

When god insists his followers pay tithes and offerings for his approval, it is GREED

When god intends on being party to every marriage, it is LUST

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180279 Oct 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's not change the topic, bobbing Bobby, all you worm meat are posting with hidden location. Are you afraid I'll do my Pagan magic, find you, then bake you. And you call us superstitious.
Seven Godly Sins

When god destroys people for not obeying him, it is WRATH

When god punishes people for believing in a different god, it is ENVY

When god lets tragedies and disasters happen of which he could have prevented, it is SLOTH

When god allows anyone to hunger unnecessarily while he has enough for himself, it is GLUTTONY

When god expects his followers to dedicate their lives to worrshipping and praying to him, it is PRIDE

When god insists his followers pay tithes and offerings for his approval, it is GREED

When god intends on being party to every marriage, it is LUST
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180280 Oct 16, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Another Atheist canned answer, recycled material.
It's in your book dumbass - you should read it sometime!

You're living proof that Snow White and Dopey had unprotected sex. ;)

Reality check time for dumbass Christians:

IS THE BIBLE INSPIRED?

If it is, it should be a book that no man -- no number of men -- could produce.

It should contain the perfection of philosophy.

It should perfectly accord with every fact in nature.

There should be no mistakes in astronomy, geology, or as to any subject or science.

Its morality should be the highest, the purest.

Its laws and regulations for the control of conduct should be just, wise, perfect, and perfectly adapted to the accomplishment of the ends desired.

It should contain nothing calculated to make man cruel, revengeful, vindictive or infamous.

It should be filled with intelligence, justice, purity, honesty, mercy and the spirit of liberty.

It should be opposed to strife and war, to slavery and lust, to ignorance, credulity and superstition.
It should develop the brain and civilize the heart.

It should satisfy the heart and brain of the best and wisest.

It should be true.

QUESTION...???

Does the Old or NewTestament satisfy this standard?

Is there anything in the Bible in history, in theory, in law, in government, in morality, in science, above and beyond the ideas, the beliefs, the customs and prejudices of its authors and the people among whom they lived?

Is there one ray of light from any supernatural source?

NO!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180281 Oct 16, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Oh don’t feel bad about what you did to Catcher1. Heck fire the same thing happened to Madeline Murray O'Hare. One day one of her good ole buddies just shot her dead. You Atheist are funny about such things.
.
Seven Godly Sins

When god destroys people for not obeying him, it is WRATH

When god punishes people for believing in a different god, it is ENVY

When god lets tragedies and disasters happen of which he could have prevented, it is SLOTH

When god allows anyone to hunger unnecessarily while he has enough for himself, it is GLUTTONY

When god expects his followers to dedicate their lives to worrshipping and praying to him, it is PRIDE

When god insists his followers pay tithes and offerings for his approval, it is GREED

When god intends on being party to every marriage, it is LUST

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180282 Oct 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
You really don't know me. The thought of even running for local office has never crossed my mind.
Seven Godly Sins

When god destroys people for not obeying him, it is WRATH

When god punishes people for believing in a different god, it is ENVY

When god lets tragedies and disasters happen of which he could have prevented, it is SLOTH

When god allows anyone to hunger unnecessarily while he has enough for himself, it is GLUTTONY

When god expects his followers to dedicate their lives to worrshipping and praying to him, it is PRIDE

When god insists his followers pay tithes and offerings for his approval, it is GREED

When god intends on being party to every marriage, it is LUST

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180283 Oct 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Judging by what I read online, they may have been murdered for being a bunch of jerkoffs that had to have the last word all the time. Nazi's had to kill someone they captured too many. They were lucky they could feed their own troops.
Seven Godly Sins

When god destroys people for not obeying him, it is WRATH

When god punishes people for believing in a different god, it is ENVY

When god lets tragedies and disasters happen of which he could have prevented, it is SLOTH

When god allows anyone to hunger unnecessarily while he has enough for himself, it is GLUTTONY

When god expects his followers to dedicate their lives to worrshipping and praying to him, it is PRIDE

When god insists his followers pay tithes and offerings for his approval, it is GREED

When god intends on being party to every marriage, it is LUST

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180284 Oct 16, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in a Perfect God, your statements are not true about my God. But yours on the other hand, ye without soul.
The following describes your god PERFECTLY:

Seven Godly Sins

When god destroys people for not obeying him, it is WRATH

When god punishes people for believing in a different god, it is ENVY

When god lets tragedies and disasters happen of which he could have prevented, it is SLOTH

When god allows anyone to hunger unnecessarily while he has enough for himself, it is GLUTTONY

When god expects his followers to dedicate their lives to worrshipping and praying to him, it is PRIDE

When god insists his followers pay tithes and offerings for his approval, it is GREED

When god intends on being party to every marriage, it is LUST

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#180285 Oct 16, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
I hated all that crap and still do. What a waste of classroom time.
Of course you hated it: it made you **think**.

And you know that thinking ruins faith.

So it's quite natural-- you prefer ignorance and faith to **thinking** and learning.
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180286 Oct 16, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ignored, until you learn to write for yourself.
You're too dense to ignore me - and you won't because you can't - you're obsessed.

I find you highly entertaining. ;)

A perfect example of religious dementia.

“A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.”~Saul Bellow

Give up Eagle... you'll never be the man your mother is.
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180287 Oct 16, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Believe as you wish my good Doctor. I still love you in my heart.
What a steaming pile! LOL
You have a heart? Say it ain't so!

I have you're nightly prayer for you... ;)

My Vibrator, which brings me to heaven!
Rabbit be thy name!
Till kingdom come!
Thy make me cum!
On earth!
Oh it is heaven!
Give me this daily thrill!
And forgive me my screams!
As i forgive thos who sold me dud batteries!
Lead me straight into temptation!
But deliver me from frustration!
For thine is the vibration!
The power and the rotation!
For ever and ever!
Amen or No men!
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180288 Oct 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Seven Godly Sins
When god destroys people for not obeying him, it is WRATH
When god punishes people for believing in a different god, it is ENVY
When god lets tragedies and disasters happen of which he could have prevented, it is SLOTH
When god allows anyone to hunger unnecessarily while he has enough for himself, it is GLUTTONY
When god expects his followers to dedicate their lives to worrshipping and praying to him, it is PRIDE
When god insists his followers pay tithes and offerings for his approval, it is GREED
When god intends on being party to every marriage, it is LUST
Let's address these one at a time shall we Sir Robert?

The Vatican has spoken out on the subject of the Seven Magnificent Deadly Sins, and has come up with a modernised version of 'things to go to Hell for'.

The original seven sins - Pride, Envy, Gluttony, Lust, Anger, Greed and Sloth - have become outdated, says the Vatican, as everyone in the world indulges in those sins every day of their lives.

A new up-to-date list of sins is thought to have been the idea of the Pope himself.

To reflect the state of modern life, the new Seven Magnificent Deadly Sins, as decreed by the Pope, include sins against minorities, as well as against the environment, which is always complaining about being shat upon.

The revised list is:

Pollution.

Calling gay people names like Arse Bandit, Rear Admiral or Cackpipe Cosmonaut.

Kiddyfiddling (unless the kiddyfiddler is a trusted religious person)

Calling Muslims names like ...well...you know, and laughing at their beards.

Drug-taking if you're an athlete (forgiveable after 2 years)

Can't think of one for number 6.

Being a sloth.

Priests have applauded the revision, and say that anyone discovered committing more than four of the sins within a 7-day period, could leave themselves open to Eternal Damnation.

Father Feargal O'Birmingham, a professor of moral theology at the University of Alum Rock, said:

"The world has changed since the original seven deadly sins were written down in 1977. Sins have changed, and we must change with them. It may have been fine to call a faggot a 'faggot' 30 years ago, but that kind of thing is no longer permissible."
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180289 Oct 16, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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Where were you when I was being forced to learn Greek Mythology in Jr High?
I sure wish some Atheist would have stood up then and had that crap thrown out the window.
I throw that crap "Gideon Bibles" out the window every time I see one. You still eat that crap daily - how does it taste?
Imhotep

Charlotte, NC

#180290 Oct 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course you hated it: it made you **think**.
And you know that thinking ruins faith.
So it's quite natural-- you prefer ignorance and faith to **thinking** and learning.
Don't they all Bob?

One would imagine with all the Internet information available: that... they would at least make a effort to determine what their religion is - what it originated from - why competing religious ideologies exist.

Sadly, they are so brainwashed, that "thinking" is verboten! "God will get me for that"

If religionists applied reason and science to their faith, their religion would simply die. That's why faith must oppose science for its very survival.
No philosophy, moral outlook, or religion can be inconsistent with the findings of science and hope to endure among educated people.

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