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#180119 Oct 15, 2013
A fool will laugh readily at what generally is not considered funny.
Since: Jun 13
#180120 Oct 15, 2013
For real?!?! Now your gonna try to tell us what kind of sense of humor we should have?!?!?!*facepalm
Since: Jun 13
#180122 Oct 15, 2013
It doesn't matter the religion or lack there of....many people do stupid things everyday. That is common sense, so I think it's safe to say that it's not the religion or lack there of that needs to be studied, it's the person as a whole ;-)
Since: Jun 13
#180123 Oct 15, 2013
An atheist doesn't believe in a deity at all...maybe they don't believe in a Christian god...
Since: Dec 10
arte et marte
#180124 Oct 15, 2013
You're quite the expert.
Since: Jan 11
#180125 Oct 15, 2013
Did you find that proof before you started to believe?
What was the proof?
Since: Apr 09
#180126 Oct 15, 2013
wow...this, folks, is how you know that someone has no answers.
#180127 Oct 15, 2013
My proof for myself is based on my experience over several years. What matters to me is that I believe and have experienced God for myself. If you want to know for yourself then get busy and start experiencing God for yourself.
#180128 Oct 15, 2013
Your question answered, Eagle. ;)
Belief in Deity
Not considered important. Most Humanists are atheists or agnostics.
Same as above.
Origin of Universe and Life
The scientific method is most respected as the means for revealing the mysteries of the origins of the universe and life.
An afterlife or spiritual existence after death is not recognized.
No concept of evil. Reasons for wrongdoing are explored through scientific methods, e.g. through study of sociology, psychology, criminology.
No concept of afterlife or spiritual liberation or salvation. Realizing ones personal potential and working for the betterment of humanity through ethical consciousness and social works are considered paramount, but from a naturalistic rather than supernatural standpoint.
No spiritual reasons but rather a matter of human vulnerability to misfortune, illness, and victimization.
The American Humanist Association endorses elective abortion. Other contemporary views include working for equality for homosexuals, gender equality, a secular approach to divorce and remarriage, working to end poverty, promoting peace and nonviolence, and environmental protection.
And... Mother Teresa
A amazing story about a decades-long crisis of faith in the life of Agnes Bojaxhiu, better known as Mother Teresa.
A newly released biography, Come Be My Light, consists of numerous letters Teresa exchanged with her church superiors.
These letters reveal that for the last fifty years of her life, she felt as if God had withdrawn his presence from her and would not respond to her prayers. Unable to feel any hint of Gods existence neither in her heart or in the eucharist, according to Brian Kolodiejchuk, the books editor she lived in a permanent state of silent misery and despair. Some excerpts from Teresas letters reveal just how tormented she was:
I call, I cling, I want and there is no One to answer no One on Whom I can cling no, No One. Alone Where is my Faith even deep down right in there is nothing, but emptiness & darkness My God how painful is this unknown pain I have no Faith I dare not utter the words & thoughts that crowd in my heart & make me suffer untold agony. So many unanswered questions live within me afraid to uncover them because of the blasphemy If there be God please forgive me When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives & hurt my very soul. I am told God loves me and yet the reality of darkness & coldness & emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul.
#180129 Oct 15, 2013
So you dont like being humiliated?
Then just say so.
#180130 Oct 15, 2013
You're too kind.[tipping hat]
#180131 Oct 15, 2013
You said you dont believe in God.
But you also said you are not an Atheist.
Just to enlighten you, Atheist dont believe in God.
(An afterlife or spiritual existence after death is not recognized.)
Understood, that you have not crossed over from life to death. That means you are alive and with us today.
(No concept of evil.)
Also understood, no one has stuck a shotgun in your face and asked for your hard earned money. If they ever do, just tell them you believe in the scientific method and through study of sociology, psychology, criminology you will define what is evil.
But somehow I dont think you will be able to get all that out before you experience the afterlife and spiritual existence.
#180132 Oct 15, 2013
Would that apply to Hitler?
#180133 Oct 15, 2013
consider that ALL babies are atheists.
However, there is no getting around the simple truth of it: all babies are atheists. How could it be otherwise?
In fact, all children are atheists until they reach an age where they can truly understand religious doctrine, which will mean well into their teens.
Children can mimic their parents in prayer, for example, by closing their eyes and clasping their hands together, and repeating some words that they dont understand. Of course even toddler-praying cant happen until a child reaches the age of speech.
Beyond praying though, there is so much more to consider when parents proclaim that their little ones are Christian or Jewish or Hindu or Muslim and so on.
To say that someone is "Christian" is to say that the someone understands:
(1) the story of the life of Jesus as told in the Bible;
(2) the concepts of heaven and hell;
(3) the concept of "faith" in an invisible entity;
(6) the Triune God and
With all this complicated theology in mind, picture a 5-month-old infant contentedly filling her diaper, and try to convince anyone that she understands all of the above.
If she does not, she is not a Christian. I dont care how much water you sprinkle on her head, or how many magical words you recite over her as she howls in a church, she doesnt have the foggiest idea about any of it.
Which means she cannot be a Christian.
The identical analogy applies to all religions.
"Out of all of the sects in the world, we notice an uncanny coincidence: the overwhelming majority just happen to choose the one that their parents belong to. Not the sect that has the best evidence in its favour, the best miracles, the best moral code, the best cathedral, the best stained glass, the best music: when it comes to choosing from the smorgasbord of available religions, their potential virtues seem to count for nothing, compared to the matter of heredity. This is an unmistakable fact; nobody could seriously deny it. Yet people with full knowledge of the arbitrary nature of this heredity, somehow manage to go on believing in their religion, often with such fanaticism that they are prepared to murder people who follow a different one."
Since: Sep 10
#180134 Oct 15, 2013
Godwin's law, Eagle.
#180135 Oct 15, 2013
I have 2 children, both college grads. 3 grandsons.
DID YOU KNOW CATEGORY
A lot a Christians seem absolutely positive that Jesus is, of course, unique and the first of his kind. They are unaware that the myth of their Christ is similar to several other god-men myths.
Here are some of those other mythical god-men that Jesus, the Christian Messiah, apparently shares roots with.
--Zoroaster was born of a virgin and immaculate conception by a ray of divine reason.
--He was baptized in a river.
--In his youth he astounded wise men with his wisdom.
--He was tempted in the wilderness by the devil.
--He began his ministry at age 30.
--Zoroaster baptized with water, fire and holy wind.
--He cast out demons and restored the sight to a blind man.
--He taught about heaven and hell, and revealed mysteries, including resurrection, judgment, salvation and the apocalypse.
--He had a sacred cup or grail.
--He was slain.
--His religion had a eucharist.
--He was the Word made flesh.
--Zoroasters followers expected a second coming in the virgin-born Saoshynt or Savior, who is to come in 2341 CE and begin his ministry at age 30, ushering in a golden age.
Mithra of Persia
--Mithra was born of a virgin on December 25 in a cave, and his birth was attended by shepherds bearing gifts.
--He was considered a great traveling teacher and master.
--He had 12 companions or disciples.
--Mithras followers were promised immortality.
--He performed miracles.
--As the great bull of the Sun, Mithra sacrificed himself for world peace.
--He was buried in atomb and after three days rose again.
--His resurrection was celebrated every year.
--He was called the Good Shepherd and identified with both the Lamb and the Lion.
--He was considered the Way, the Truth and the Light, and the Logos,[Word]Redeemer,Savi or and Messiah.
--His sacred day was Sunday, the Lords Day, hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.
--Mithra had his principal festival on what was later to become Easter.
--His religion had a eucharist or Lords Supper, at which Mithra said,He who shall nto eat of my body nor drink of my blood so that he may be one with me and I with him, shall not be saved.
--His annual sacrifice is the Passover of the Magi, a symbolical atonement of pledge of moral and physical regeneration.
Furthermore, the Vatican itself is built upon the papacy of Mithra, and the Christian hierarchy is nearly identical to the Mithraic version it replaced.
Virtually all of the elements of the Catholic ritual, from miter to wafer to altar to doxology, are directly taken from earlier Pagan mystery religions.
Study HORUS ;)
#180136 Oct 15, 2013
Remember, INFIDEL, thou shall share thy imagined paradise with the same men that flew into history on 9/11. 72 virgins each!
Consider the much used Ad Infinitum Atheist Quote
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
#180137 Oct 15, 2013
I see zero evidence of ANY Gods.
I am an equal opportunity Secular humanist.
However I am open to suggestions - IF ANY organized religion can answer these two simple questions...
A) Provide evidence that your God is the only true God in a way that religions other than yours cannot do.
B) Provide evidence that your holy book is true in a way that religions other than yours cannot do with theirs.
Until this time, and it will be an eternity - you are only one of many religious cult members - each claiming more or less the same immortality or enlightenment as others.
On a lighter note and my twisted sense of humor
Satan fears me! ;)
He shudders, soils his suit, rams his horns into a Christian sinner and laments...
"Imhotep's awake! Grrr...
That irreligious bastard!
I just do not understand it!
Every evil I heap upon him slides off like pimples on an Italian!
Goddamnit, he pisses me off.
Allah forgiving my temper.
Constantly mocking my existence with common sense and those damned FACTS.
I begged, in fact pleaded with my alter ego - Jesus, for a lightning bolt or something...
Jesus can't even light Imhotep's joint!
How dare this venomous human taunt me!
Sacrilege! Liar! I won.
< Everything is so green>
Now I'm hungry and everything here is burnt to 'hell in a hand basket':(
What in the Hell is a evil demon to do... in the face of reality?
One day... I'll promise...
I'll kick his ass... provided he believes that I exist."
#180138 Oct 15, 2013
Hola buen doctor me estoy divirtiendo a costa de los demás, como de costumbre!
They are working me to death I drive 200 miles every day. The scenery here is pure eye candy.
The blue ridge parkway was 400 miles of beauty mountains up to 6053 feet.
YES, The tech arrived late to work!
I blamed it on the US government shutdown!
I don't know how you feel doc, but it worries me more than that the US government might start back up again! ;)
it hasn't worked properly for at least 45 years - it's time for to shutdown!
#180139 Oct 15, 2013
Godwin's law Evoked!
shame on you Eagle ;)
Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies) is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1989 which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1."
In other words, Godwin put forth the sarcastic observation that, given enough time, all discussionsregardless of topic or scopeinevitably end up being about Hitler and the Nazis.
Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread reductio ad Hitlerem form.
The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses.
It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.
Although in one of its early forms Godwin's law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions, the law is now often applied to any threaded online discussion, such as chat rooms and blog comment threads, and has been invoked for the inappropriate use of Nazi analogies in articles or speeches.
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