Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#179547 Oct 10, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Creationist are noted for their inability to answer straight questions like:
Where the f*ck is proof of he god you keep lying about?
Why do you lie about atheists?
Why do you try to lie and hide e fact that hitler was catholic?
All straight questions that creationist run away from because they are lying cowards at the end of the day...
Hitler may have been catholic, until he started WW2, so he wasn't really a catholic once he became jealous of the Jews

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#179548 Oct 10, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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Hitler may have been catholic, until he started WW2, so he wasn't really a catholic once he became jealous of the Jews
LOL...weakest response ever...

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#179549 Oct 10, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler may have been catholic, until he started WW2, so he wasn't really a catholic once he became jealous of the Jews

You mean like you're American when you go into the bathroom, but while you're in the bathroom European?

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#179550 Oct 10, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL...weakest response ever...
It's good to have a opinion.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#179551 Oct 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Oh, that is one hell of an explanation and description. Just really brings the whole thing into objective and definitive perspective. Thanks, it must have taken many years of schooling to to be so erudite.
I'm sorry if you don't understand the definition, but that *is* the modern definition. And for those who spend the time to actually learn some physics, this is the best definition. Of course, it is worthless to those who don't want to actually learn anything and keep with their own intuitions and biases.

Any symmetry of a physical system leads to a conserved quantity due to Noether's theorem. For example, the fact that the basic laws of physics do not depend on location leads to the conservation of momentum. The fact that orientation is not relevant leads to conservation of angular momentum. And thew fact that the laws do not change over time leads to the conservation of energy.

Now, in any particular situation, it is possible to find an expression for the energy that is conserved. Among the terms that typically show up are the kinetic energy due to motion of particles, potential energy due to forces acting, electromagnetic energy due to electric and magnetic fields, etc.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#179552 Oct 10, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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Okay, defend you're atheism by answering, how did the earth come from nothing.
The Earth didn't come from nothing who said it did? Are you that stupid that you have no idea how planets are formed?
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#179553 Oct 10, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> Foolish bob, youre like a police officer who has been fired, you have no authority. Youre wrong as usual, God has a lake of fire prepared, no need for the road you fooloishly suggest.. All in good time my jackass.
Yes I'm sure your demon God does have a lake of fire prepared, that certainly is in keeping with his unbelievably cruel nature. Im really not surprised as this is the same God that murders little babies and destroys unborn fetuses. And you seem to have NO trouble worshiping a baby killer, says all I need to know about you. Pathetic, really pathetic.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#179554 Oct 10, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
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Yip, Humans are so good. It's God's fault we choose to rape. It's God's fault that Hitler decided to kill 6million Jews. It's god's fault that Humans choose to poach Animals.
It's even God's fault that Humans choose to do wrong.
Stop blaming God for what Humans do wrong.
"Good people will do GOOD things, evil people will do EVIL things, but to get a GOOD person to do EVIL things.....that takes religion."

You're right God has noting to do with some people doing horrible things, and conversely God can not take credit for people doing wonderful things. It's almost as though God is completely worthless when it comes to how people behave.

You mentioned Hitlers slaughter of the Jews. Have you ever wondering why millions of prayers went unanswered? It is said that if you pray hard enough God will answer your prayers. People swear by that claim. During the holocaust I'm quite certain that millions of Jews prayed as they had never prayed before. Prayed for their children, their brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers, prayed for a quick death when subjected to horrific medical experiments, or death by slow starvation. You Gid sat and did..........NOTHING, he watched as millions died horrible deaths, he watched children and babies die equally horrible deaths. He sat and just watched. Its almost as thought he either takes some perverse pleasure in watching his creations die horribly, or he doesn't give a shit. It is exactly like no God exists, yes I think that just may be the answer.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#179555 Oct 10, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry if you don't understand the definition, but that *is* the modern definition. And for those who spend the time to actually learn some physics, this is the best definition. Of course, it is worthless to those who don't want to actually learn anything and keep with their own intuitions and biases.
Any symmetry of a physical system leads to a conserved quantity due to Noether's theorem. For example, the fact that the basic laws of physics do not depend on location leads to the conservation of momentum. The fact that orientation is not relevant leads to conservation of angular momentum. And thew fact that the laws do not change over time leads to the conservation of energy.
Now, in any particular situation, it is possible to find an expression for the energy that is conserved. Among the terms that typically show up are the kinetic energy due to motion of particles, potential energy due to forces acting, electromagnetic energy due to electric and magnetic fields, etc.
Uh huh.

Now define energy. Just what is energy is? Not the math thingy, but the real thingy.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#179556 Oct 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Uh huh.
Now define energy. Just what is energy is? Not the math thingy, but the real thingy.
"Not the math thingy, but the real thingy."

Yeah...I don't think anyone is going to be able to explain anything to you, ace....

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#179557 Oct 10, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>"Good people will do GOOD things, evil people will do EVIL things, but to get a GOOD person to do EVIL things.....that takes religion."
You're right God has noting to do with some people doing horrible things, and conversely God can not take credit for people doing wonderful things. It's almost as though God is completely worthless when it comes to how people behave.
You mentioned Hitlers slaughter of the Jews. Have you ever wondering why millions of prayers went unanswered? It is said that if you pray hard enough God will answer your prayers. People swear by that claim. During the holocaust I'm quite certain that millions of Jews prayed as they had never prayed before. Prayed for their children, their brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers, prayed for a quick death when subjected to horrific medical experiments, or death by slow starvation. You Gid sat and did..........NOTHING, he watched as millions died horrible deaths, he watched children and babies die equally horrible deaths. He sat and just watched. Its almost as thought he either takes some perverse pleasure in watching his creations die horribly, or he doesn't give a shit. It is exactly like no God exists, yes I think that just may be the answer.
Good argument, but let me tell you this.

Do you think God can just end WW2 over night? Do you think God can just make every gun in Germany get stuck over night? Do you think God can just make WW2 disappear and be completely forgotten over night?

"Good come to those who wait" and the reason why god can't stop everything over night, is because he created Judgement day.

If he stopped a massive event like WW2 over night, stopped AIDs in a second and completely wiped out drugs In a flash etc.

Humans will know he exists, be well prepared for Judgement day, and God wants humans to be prepared by believing in him, not because he did that amazing thing and that wonderful thing.

God gave humans a chance in the Biblical times to believe in him, after he revealed himself so many times, but still most people did not accept him as the True God.

Now it's our turn to be tested.

God does do small things all over the world, but it will be impossible to stop World crime and world insanity because those people who choose to do wrong and not ask God for help, God cannot help

So do you really think God doesn't help the Earth, take a look at Humans first before you blame God for people's mistakes and wrong decisions

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#179558 Oct 10, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Good argument, but let me tell you this.
Do you think God can just end WW2 over night? Do you think God can just make every gun in Germany get stuck over night? Do you think God can just make WW2 disappear and be completely forgotten over night?
"Good come to those who wait" and the reason why god can't stop everything over night, is because he created Judgement day.
If he stopped a massive event like WW2 over night, stopped AIDs in a second and completely wiped out drugs In a flash etc.
Humans will know he exists, be well prepared for Judgement day, and God wants humans to be prepared by believing in him, not because he did that amazing thing and that wonderful thing.
God gave humans a chance in the Biblical times to believe in him, after he revealed himself so many times, but still most people did not accept him as the True God.
Now it's our turn to be tested.
God does do small things all over the world, but it will be impossible to stop World crime and world insanity because those people who choose to do wrong and not ask God for help, God cannot help
So do you really think God doesn't help the Earth, take a look at Humans first before you blame God for people's mistakes and wrong decisions
According to everyone who believes in god, the answer to all of your hypotheticals is "Yes, god could do those things."

But, according to you, he doesn't do those things because then it would be too easy to believe in him and too easy to get into heaven.

LOL...wow...that is some twisted religion you follow...
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179559 Oct 10, 2013
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Why are you sick a sick minded moron? You dream of beheading atheist with a dull knife, that is so sad, it’s sick and is a definite indictor of your intolerance taught to you by the babble. Tell me are those nails in your wrist and ankles a real christian joy?
Wrong, your god, one of over 3700 claimed gods does not exist, has never existed. However if you want to believe in the godmagic of bronze age goat herders and escaped slaves because it satisfies your blood lust then that’s fine.
I have more business acumen than to employ a micro manager however since when did world governance come under the heading of micromanagement. Oh I get it, you are attempting to make a metaphorical link between the real world and your faith and failing
How do you go through life not understanding what you read?

Full Definition of COMPREHENSION
1
a : the act or action of grasping with the intellect : understanding
b : knowledge gained by comprehending
c : the capacity for understanding fully <mysteries that are beyond our comprehension>
2
a : the act or process of comprising
b : the faculty or capability of including : comprehensiveness
3
: connotation 3

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/com...
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179560 Oct 10, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/video/data/ 2.0/video/us/2013/10/04/dnt-mi -giant-mushrooms.wilx.html
Amazing!!
Topix atheists are making their move. Their enlightenment is bearing fruit. They are going to take over the world!
I clicked on it and nothing happened. Anyway, I was thinking today, how are the Atheist going to rid the earth of the Muslim Faith? Holy freaking cow cheese that’s going to be one bloody war. In the end I think there’s going to be a lot of legless Atheist scooting around on their butts.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179561 Oct 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
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It shant not matter what thee thinkth oh little one of the forrest. For thine words have already been tossed thru yonders window. Out into the abyss from where they come.
For I shant not be fooled by your foolery. So I do bid thee to jump thru yonders window to catch thy own pitiful words you poor inconsequential creature.
Translation: You recognize you are inconsistent.

You have no ANSWER for your hypocrisy.

So you resort to the above attempt to put me down, instead.

Classic Fail.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#179562 Oct 10, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
According to everyone who believes in god, the answer to all of your hypotheticals is "Yes, god could do those things."
But, according to you, he doesn't do those things because then it would be too easy to believe in him and too easy to get into heaven.
LOL...wow...that is some twisted religion you follow...
It's good to have a different point of view, God has other reasons if you hadn't noticed.

And why in the world do you think God will fix something over night.

Man, Judgement day is going to be good.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179563 Oct 10, 2013
Eagle 12 wrote:
<quoted text>
For thy mind is misaligned and has been radically skewed. Such a pity that thy thoughts are so full of fecal stoppage. Take some strong laxatives and eat a big bowl of pinto beans that was not pre soaked. That should clear your mind.
Translation: You cannot explain the 40,000 DIFFERENT flavors of "christian".

This PROOF that your god cannot manage ANYTHING is beyond you.

So, again, you try to put me down instead.

Classic Fail.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179564 Oct 10, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
You cannot prove anything to a person not willing and able to be convinced by a proof. It is necessary that you be able to understand the proof, which is why I could not prove the Pythagorean theorem to toddler, and that you be willing to be convinced by compelling evidence supported by a compelling argument, which is why Christians reject proofs of their god's nonexistence.
For example, it's easy to demonstrate to an open mind that no omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent god exists to watch over us and protect us. The human condition rules out that possibility. If there are gods, they either don't know us, can't help us, or don't care enough to do so. Only people committed to believing otherwise reject such an argument.
Want more? Of course you don't. But here it is anyway:
Perfection doesn't allow for change, since either the before or after state would have been less than perfect. You cant change the shape of a perfectly straight line or perfect circle without making it imperfect. Likewise, a perfect god couldn't create anything or even think anything without losing perfection.
Here's more evidence of your god's nonexistence:
If your god existed, it wouldn't tolerate blasphemy, its church wouldn't be withering away, it couldn't have been expelled from grade schools, its intelligent designs would be unmistakeable, the bible's creation myth wouldn't have been so incorrect, and there would be only one religion, which wouldn't even be recognized as religion - just more science.
Don't you think that it's a little insincere for faith based thinkers to argue about proof since evidence and proof are of little interest to them? They don't require it of the things they believe, and when the evidence contradicts those faith based beliefs, they ignore it. What else do we have to offer to prove anything apart from evidence and reason to which the closed mind is as impervious as Superman is to bullets? How can even that which is provable be proven to such a mind?
"Humanity's first sin was faith; the first virtue was doubt.”- Mike Huben
DOC!

I cannot express how happy I am to see your post, here-- and I haven't even read it--

-- it's just gratifying to see you alive and well.

(raises a toast to the good doctor)
Eagle 12

Edwardsville, IL

#179565 Oct 10, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>"Good people will do GOOD things, evil people will do EVIL things, but to get a GOOD person to do EVIL things.....that takes religion."
You're right God has noting to do with some people doing horrible things, and conversely God can not take credit for people doing wonderful things. It's almost as though God is completely worthless when it comes to how people behave.
You mentioned Hitlers slaughter of the Jews. Have you ever wondering why millions of prayers went unanswered? It is said that if you pray hard enough God will answer your prayers. People swear by that claim. During the holocaust I'm quite certain that millions of Jews prayed as they had never prayed before. Prayed for their children, their brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers, prayed for a quick death when subjected to horrific medical experiments, or death by slow starvation. You Gid sat and did..........NOTHING, he watched as millions died horrible deaths, he watched children and babies die equally horrible deaths. He sat and just watched. Its almost as thought he either takes some perverse pleasure in watching his creations die horribly, or he doesn't give a shit. It is exactly like no God exists, yes I think that just may be the answer.
Let’s see here, you live in Boston, right? And Boston was the scene of a terrorist act in which women, children, and good family men were killed by terrorist. Not to mention all those that were permanently injured.

"Good people will do GOOD things, evil people will do EVIL things, but to get a GOOD person to do EVIL things.....that takes religion."

If I’m reading you right Doctor. You are saying good people performed terrorist acts in the name of religion?
I don’t think that comment will fly with your neighbors in Boston. Nor will it have merit with the 99.8% of the American population.

Too bad that didn’t happen in Texas. Because your home boy Dzhokhar Tsarnaev would be facing the death penalty with a sterile needle. Then his body dumped in the dumpster in the back of the prison.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#179566 Oct 10, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Hitler may have been catholic, until he started WW2, so he wasn't really a catholic once he became jealous of the Jews
You really don't know History, do you?

Among Cat'Lick history, there has always been a very strong faction who blamed the Jews for the "death" of christ.

This is still a strong bit of Cat'Lick theology, but is not stressed as widely as it was before WW2, for fear of retribution.

Proof? Our lovely Australian Actor-cum-director Mel Gibson. He's ample proof the dogma of "jews are christ-killers" is alive and well in the Cat'Lick hierarchy.

That was all Hitler needed, apparently...

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