Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#177279 Sep 13, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Mr Hawking nor myself denies evolution. I do disagree with some details others have, that THEY CAN'T PROVE. The monkey in the middle. If we came from a tree primate. 1. Our feet would be much different then they are. 2. We would be so much more stronger and faster. We'd be able to beat the 50 pound monkey that could rip us to shreds. You are a fool for trying to put words in my mouth or thoughts in my head. As Orwell claimed you would, worm meat.
Your ignorance level on the process of evolution is startling. "If we came from a tree primate.?" That is NOT what evolutionary biology claims, you really do have to stop reading creationists bullshit. We and the great apes SHARE a common and ancestry. I do hope your intelligent enough to understand the meaning of the word SHARE.

You really took a big hit on this post, waving the big red flag of ignorance is NEVER a good idea. Now......go a read some real science books!!!!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177280 Sep 13, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Your ignorance level on the process of evolution is startling. "If we came from a tree primate.?" That is NOT what evolutionary biology claims, you really do have to stop reading creationists bullshit. We and the great apes SHARE a common and ancestry. I do hope your intelligent enough to understand the meaning of the word SHARE.

You really took a big hit on this post, waving the big red flag of ignorance is NEVER a good idea. Now......go a read some real science books!!!!
You made a glaring mistake here: you assume he could ... read.

:D

Since: Sep 08

Ordway, CO

#177281 Sep 13, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Your ignorance level on the process of evolution is startling. "If we came from a tree primate.?" That is NOT what evolutionary biology claims, you really do have to stop reading creationists bullshit. We and the great apes SHARE a common and ancestry. I do hope your intelligent enough to understand the meaning of the word SHARE.
You really took a big hit on this post, waving the big red flag of ignorance is NEVER a good idea. Now......go a read some real science books!!!!
There is no sharing. Those ancestors are long dead.

You can share an ice cream cone, you can not share a dead ancestor.

You can say great apes are DERIVED from a common ancestor.
LCNLin

United States

#177282 Sep 13, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Your ignorance level on the process of evolution is startling. "If we came from a tree primate.?" That is NOT what evolutionary biology claims, you really do have to stop reading creationists bullshit. We and the great apes SHARE a common and ancestry. I do hope your intelligent enough to understand the meaning of the word SHARE.
You really took a big hit on this post, waving the big red flag of ignorance is NEVER a good idea. Now......go a read some real science books!!!!
...whines,
alas proves nothing other than he is person who has become extremely vocal about his atheism and is trying to convince others of his fantasy views.

Obviously regarded as an embarrassment by fellow atheists.
LCNLin

United States

#177283 Sep 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no sharing. Those ancestors are long dead.
You can share an ice cream cone, you can not share a dead ancestor.
You can say great apes are DERIVED from a common ancestor.
His posts are comical and amusing if one is NOT under the spell of atheist philosophy.
Peace

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177288 Sep 13, 2013
every game wrote:
<quoted text>
You're really pissed off , aren't you?
Nope.

I do find you sad and funny at the same time.

A also pity you for your loss.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177289 Sep 13, 2013
every game wrote:
<quoted text>
Your hatred, once again in a state of erection.
Do you believe that is what your Jewsus(jesus) would have done?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177290 Sep 13, 2013
every game wrote:
<quoted text>
*yawn*
Of course! My entire post was 200% over your feeble abilities.

I pity you for your loss.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#177291 Sep 13, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Helpful hint: HIT MUTE RIGHT AT THE START, to avoid the shytty soundtrack. All the "points" are just written.
Point 1: "nothing cannot come from nothing".
This "point" in the video has no basis in reality. No modern scientific basis for the Universe's origins makes this ludicrous claim.
Only **THEIST** do-- they claim that their god made the universe from **nothing** in a direct violation of pretty much every scientific principle there is.
Point 2: "Energy is eternal" is bullshit. Energy can become matter and vice versa. So this point is flat wrong too.
Point 2 is belabored by repetition of the lie-- which doesn't help their false case.
Point 3: they contradict themselves-- they point out the universe in it's **present** form, had a beginning (they fail to address that it could have existed in a **different** form).
And if their idiotic point 2 were true? Then point 3 is false. If point 3 is true? Then their stupid point 2 is false!
THE VIDEO CONTRADICTS ITSELF! And this is only 30 seconds in!
LOL!
They go on to quote-mine Stephen Hawking with a snippet that has the **appearance** of seeming to **agree** with their lies. They even abuse a photo of him in their ugly video-lie.
Point 4: is so ludicrous, it is almost not worth the bother-- but in point 4, the talk about "before time"-- which is senseless. You cannot have a "before time" any more than you can have "north of the north pole".
Point 4a: they allude to "power beyond anything we can imagine"... and ... wait for it... THEY GO AHEAD AND IMAGINE IT ANYHOW!
They go on to **DEFINE** this "beyond imagination" power by what it supposedly did...(and they got their imaginary vision WAY TOO LOW, too-- only billions of galaxies... that is **WAY** too low for what humans have observed in the visible universe)
<laughing out loud here at their stupid>
Point 5: "a separate eternal energy-source".... think about this one for a bit. They are actually implying that energy has to be USED UP somehow, or you would not need an energy **source**... in direct **contradiction** their point 2. They are implying with the statement "energy source" that energy WAS CREATED at some point.
FAIL! Humorously so.
Point 5a: their whole "outside the universe" is silly-- if it's outside? It is not-- by definition-- inside. And so it doesn't matter. If it **is** inside? Then it's not **outside**. These people are idiots.
Point 6: Here? They jump from an insentient, mindless "energy source" (a giant pink bunny with a drum, perhaps?) to their all-powerful GOD in ONE STROKE.
No preamble. No argument for HOW we go from a giant battery to an IMPOSSIBLY COMPLEX GOD.
Nothing so sophisticated as that.
Fail: special pleading.
Point 7: more special pleading. They also admit that it could have been a giant energizer pink bunny-- as mindless as **they** appear to be.
But they **insist** that it **must** be an infinitely-complex self-aware being. Why? Well...**because**.. order and shyt.. and **because**.... <laughing> "And DESIGN!" they insist-- without showing ANY ACTUAL DESIGN.
Point 8: repeating their point 7 does not make the idiocy of it any better. Still no demonstration of this "design" or "order"...
IN FACT? THE UNDERLYING PRINCIPLES OF OUR UNIVERSE ARE PRETTY CHAOTIC. Not orderly at all....
Fail.
Their final slide? Just the usual whining from religious fuckery.
I watched the video and was astonished at how idiotic it was. Thanks for the very accurate analysis. This is what happens when you begin with a preconceived notion and then attempt to build everything around that preconception. In the end, to end up sounding like a complete moron.
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#177292 Sep 13, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no sharing. Those ancestors are long dead.
You can share an ice cream cone, you can not share a dead ancestor.
You can say great apes are DERIVED from a common ancestor.
I no longer have conversations with those suffering from dementia, sorry!!!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#177293 Sep 13, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
...whines,
alas proves nothing other than he is person who has become extremely vocal about his atheism and is trying to convince others of his fantasy views.
Obviously regarded as an embarrassment by fellow atheists.
Provides no thoughts relevant to the conversation, primarily because the subject material is completely foreign to him. Noted!!!
blacklagoon

Boston, MA

#177294 Sep 13, 2013
every game wrote:
<quoted text>
*yawn*
"Yawn".....equals... I have no idea what they are taking about, so rather than completely embarrass myself by display my unbelievable ignorance, I'll just post something I think is witty. Maybe they won't notice how I have avoided the issue. Sorry, we have. You obvious ignorance on the subject is noted!!!!!!!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177295 Sep 13, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I watched the video and was astonished at how idiotic it was. Thanks for the very accurate analysis. This is what happens when you begin with a preconceived notion and then attempt to build everything around that preconception. In the end, to end up sounding like a complete moron.
I found it amusing how they jumped from point-to-point without a single connective thought or argument.

It was as if they picked random points from GOOGLE, and hashed them together, one after the next.

It would have been excellent satire, except that they were serious...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#177296 Sep 13, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>"Yawn".....e quals...I have no idea what they are taking about, so rather than completely embarrass myself by display my unbelievable ignorance, I'll just post something I think is witty. Maybe they won't notice how I have avoided the issue. Sorry, we have. You obvious ignorance on the subject is noted!!!!!!!
Indeed. "no argument" appears to be one of the hallmarks of your typical True Believer™.

Since: Sep 08

Ordway, CO

#177297 Sep 14, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>I no longer have conversations with those suffering from dementia, sorry!!!
You quit talking to yourself?

Cool. That should make everyone around you feel a little more comfortable.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#177298 Sep 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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You quit talking to yourself?
Cool. That should make everyone around you feel a little more comfortable.
Says the creationist who now chooses to hallucinate god because he took an old badly written story too seriously.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#177299 Sep 14, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no sharing. Those ancestors are long dead.
You can share an ice cream cone, you can not share a dead ancestor.
You can say great apes are DERIVED from a common ancestor.
This is what we are dealing with here, and I can't see why you waste so much time posting with them. You could agree with them on something like evolution, but if you disagree with a detail of there version of evolution. One in which THEY CAN'T PROVE. Then you fall into a group of people that disagree with them, and don't believe evolution. They are so lock step in their thinking they could not imagine a person not being in lock step. I stand by what I said and other believers in evolution say If we were from tree primates we would be much stronger, and our feet would be much different.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#177300 Sep 14, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Indeed. "no argument" appears to be one of the hallmarks of your typical True Believer™.
I'll get back to you on this after I argue with someone that says the grass is purple. I am not taking your word over Stephen Hawking so give it up. It is sad you and your band of idiots babble on. The last sentence in the Hawking video told the story.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#177301 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
This is what we are dealing with here, and I can't see why you waste so much time posting with them. You could agree with them on something like evolution, but if you disagree with a detail of there version of evolution. One in which THEY CAN'T PROVE. Then you fall into a group of people that disagree with them, and don't believe evolution. They are so lock step in their thinking they could not imagine a person not being in lock step. I stand by what I said and other believers in evolution say If we were from tree primates we would be much stronger, and our feet would be much different.
There is no "we" - you're just a failed creationist troll with no proof of god.

When you are brave enough to admit this to yourself, you'll get more respect.

Until then your cult is to be regarded as suspicious and destructive.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#177302 Sep 14, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
This is what we are dealing with here, and I can't see why you waste so much time posting with them. You could agree with them on something like evolution, but if you disagree with a detail of there version of evolution. One in which THEY CAN'T PROVE. Then you fall into a group of people that disagree with them, and don't believe evolution. They are so lock step in their thinking they could not imagine a person not being in lock step. I stand by what I said and other believers in evolution say If we were from tree primates we would be much stronger, and our feet would be much different.
Its your own stupidity that prevents you from understanding evolution. This can't really be helped.

Willful neglect of facts is a symptom of the mental illness of creationism.

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