Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#176907 Sep 9, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Bob and many online Atheist don't get. If you hate God, you believe in God. It is so unfair on many levels they represent atheism to so many people.
Atheism isn't hatered of god (you can't hate something that does not exist)
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#176908 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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It's a cult more than a religion as practiced by you and most Topix atheists.
You are confused about definitions and identities.
Non-belief is passive. Proselytizing a non-belief, and arguing for it to the point of deriding the beliefs of others is not non-belief.
You are effed up in the head.
I'm confused about definitions and identities? And you're the one calling Atheism a religion!!!.......Too funny!!!!!
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#176909 Sep 9, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>You think it's up to you to decide for the entire universe exactly what state it has existed in?
xD
You are hilarious! Nobody even knows how old it really is so you have no proof, either way, as to how it came about or even WHEN it came into existence. Get a clue, loser.
Neither Hawking or Turok are infallible.
Comprehension seems to be a huge problem with you. It might be better to first evaluate what was stated and then respond, it will keep you from looking incredible stupid.

I never claimed to know how the universe came to be, unlike Theist who make the boldface claim that some invisible sky daddy did it. If you were at all educated you would know that thee are many theories as to how the universe came about or not, as in the Hawking model. Your right, no one knows for sure, just a lot of theories and possibilities, most of which are grounded in the naturalistic realm.

I'll take what very intelligent cosmologist tell me and day over the rantings of Theists who are famous for making unsupported claims.

"Look nobody really knows where all this shit comes from, but I think I'd rather trust some dudes in lab coats who aren't demanding I get up early every Sunday to come over dressed and apologize for being human."
blacklagoon

Revere, MA

#176910 Sep 9, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Look up the word "ideology" and try to say that again, with a straight face.
Sure, right after you look up the definition of RELIGION!!!

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176912 Sep 9, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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Atheism isn't hatered of god (you can't hate something that does not exist)
Overall I would agree with your statement, however my claim stands those that post online are most often God haters. Those that post gawd prove this point right away. With in my complete post you responded to, I claimed online Atheist do not represent all atheist. Even though when address on this they do claim they do, and I am making up forms of atheism. An atheist that does give it little to no thought, would never try to change your mind unless you directly requested it. That is an atheist. I would respect that person's debate that he or she has no faith. If you wish to structure society with your beliefs, you belong to a religion.

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#176913 Sep 9, 2013
Cristianity means hatered of everything and everyone that isn't a christian of the right sect

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176914 Sep 9, 2013
Your mental issues disallow you to understand that no cosmologist or any other scientist can tell you how the universe came to be, as in ultimate causation.

Only the methodology of how it got assembled.

It is your imagination that they say we popped into existence from nothing, and your belief in such magic.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176915 Sep 9, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, right after you look up the definition of RELIGION!!!
re·li·gion
[ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA

noun
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

4.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.

5.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176916 Sep 9, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
re·li·gion
[ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA
noun
1.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith
For some Atheist 5 out of the above 5 are true. Note in 1. The word especially not as you claim the word only would belong there.

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#176918 Sep 9, 2013
followerofSatan wrote:
<quoted text>
however, your mental issues disallow you to realize that there is no supernatural, and no scientist has ever said we popped into existence from nothing....there is no such thing as "nothing".... matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed...basic law of science...
As long as there are questions humans can not answer there is super natural.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176919 Sep 9, 2013
followerofSatan wrote:
<quoted text>
however, your mental issues disallow you to realize that there is no supernatural, and no scientist has ever said we popped into existence from nothing....there is no such thing as "nothing".... matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed...basic law of science...
Uh huh. That's why I told him its in his imagination.

Your reference to matter and energy is a little skewed. It can not be created or destroyed in this universe that started with the BB. According to the science of our time. But then the creation of it may be in question due to the further expansion of this universe.

The observations and determinations by modern physicists is we are a seed that went through a sort of imbibition and then started expanding, "growing" if you wish, and getting ever more complex as it goes on.

Something planted the seed or laid the egg.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#176920 Sep 9, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
As long as there are questions humans can not answer there is super natural.
Nope, but there are unanswered questions.

We once thought lightening was supernatural. But nope it happens when...
negative charged electrons in a cloud are attracted to positive charged protons in the ground, and enough of them accumulate in a spot to overcome the insulating resistance in the air between them.
Then they jump toward each other, sending a surge of electrons into the ground. We see the flash of energy and while this charge heats the air along their paths. Causing it to expand rapidly making the sound of thunder.

“Seventh son”

Since: Dec 10

Will Prevail

#176921 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh huh. That's why I told him its in his imagination.
Your reference to matter and energy is a little skewed. It can not be created or destroyed in this universe that started with the BB. According to the science of our time. But then the creation of it may be in question due to the further expansion of this universe.
The observations and determinations by modern physicists is we are a seed that went through a sort of imbibition and then started expanding, "growing" if you wish, and getting ever more complex as it goes on.
Something planted the seed or laid the egg.
So you think..... a cosmic big bird, laid an egg?
Was it yellow?

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#176923 Sep 9, 2013
followerofSatan wrote:
<quoted text>
however, your mental issues disallow you to realize that there is no supernatural, and no scientist has ever said we popped into existence from nothing....there is no such thing as "nothing".... matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed...basic law of science...
And...one more...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-130...

...for those NOT well read.

Idjit.

“Get it right”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#176924 Sep 9, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
...Your reference to matter and energy is a little skewed. It can not be created or destroyed in this universe that started with the BB. According to the science of our time....
Really? I thought the atom bomb was an example of created a whole lot of energy...

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176925 Sep 9, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Nope, but there are unanswered questions.
We once thought lightening was supernatural. But nope it happens when...
negative charged electrons in a cloud are attracted to positive charged protons in the ground, and enough of them accumulate in a spot to overcome the insulating resistance in the air between them.
Then they jump toward each other, sending a surge of electrons into the ground. We see the flash of energy and while this charge heats the air along their paths. Causing it to expand rapidly making the sound of thunder.
You need dust and particles in the air for the bolt to hit ground. Sets up a path of lesser resistance. Why it forks so much.

That is the most common lightning. Blue sky lightning does the opposite and is 10 times hotter. You can get hit 20 miles away from the storm. That can appeal to your supernatural instincts.

Since: Sep 08

Westcliffe, CO

#176926 Sep 9, 2013
chance47 wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? I thought the atom bomb was an example of created a whole lot of energy...
That was a conversion. A release of energy within mass. Unwinding atoms.
Thinking

UK

#176927 Sep 9, 2013
Fair comment. E=mc^2 and all that.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
That was a conversion. A release of energy within mass. Unwinding atoms.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176928 Sep 9, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
I do think the details of this post you made here, is why you are so frequently mocked on topix.
Only by hate-filled bigots who cannot muster up actual arguments.

Like.....you.

But thanks for playing.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176929 Sep 9, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
It is clear you don't respect the sciences of a major civilization and the census thoughts of thousands of years of monastery knowledge.
LOL!

"sciences" of ... "monastery knowledge"....????

THAT IS HILARIOUS... seriously.

Religion has no interest in science.

You **are** a moron.

There: I called you a name-- but you deserve it fully.

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