Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 08

Las Animas, CO

#176555 Sep 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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No, magnetic field lines always go in circles. No source point like for electric fields at a charge.
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Why do you think they 'bypass' anything?
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Actually, the magnetic field will gradually diminish with use. How this is relevant to space moving is unclear.
No they don't go in circles. They flow pole to pole the best way they can, then back through their source. Most travels within the object and on its surface. About 10% or so gets above the surface, I believe. That is the weak stuff, and that is why it rises up. There is a more complicated secondary flow to that.

Magnets get weaker from the environment working on them, not the load. That is why they make keepers. You can consider those full loads. That field will last as long as the material does absent outside influences.

Since: Sep 13

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#176556 Sep 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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I am sorry that is your opinion. MY life has plenty of meaning without any deities.
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Simply false. it is simple human nature to enjoy these things. no belief in a deity is required, or desired.
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Rather arrogant of you to assume what other believe, don't you think? Your myths are just that: myths. Your incorrect psychology doesn't help your failed beliefs.
No it is not just 'simple human nature'. It is something within that makes one behave like that and that something is the inner self believing in a Great Creator.

Arrogant.....moi!!!!!

Assumptions make the world go round and quite a few members have you figured out to a 'T'.

Since: Sep 13

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#176557 Sep 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Not in the situation described, it isn't. In general, even figuring out what it means to say 'space is compressed' is non-trivial and *way* beyond the mental capacities of the fundies around here.
Yes, and No.

Go figure.

Since: Sep 13

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#176558 Sep 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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What, are you three years old or something? Kaka? Do you also go make tinkie?
Naw. Unlike you, we don't keep a pissPot under the bed.

Since: Sep 13

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#176559 Sep 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Again? You write nothing useful or even argumentative.
Just more evidence of your massive ego, along with your deep hatred for all unbelievers.
You are one sick duck...
Is it unbelievers or should it be non-believers?

Could never figure that one out.

Meanwhile, calling a fellow member a 'sick duck' is not very nice of you. Can't you control yourself, you sick hack.

Since: Sep 13

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#176560 Sep 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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You think your hate is FUNNY, now?
Okay-- I can see why you would-- you are a psychopath.
Likely you sit at home planning on how to murder your neighbors...
... fortunately, your grossly obese body isn't up to getting off your couch, let alone up those basement stairs...
... so the world is relatively safe from your hate.
... for now.
We just cannot help but say that you are one hateful sick prick.

Seek help.

Since: Sep 13

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#176561 Sep 6, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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Yeah.
That's it.
This BobOfQuantumFaith sure applies himself towards being ever so hateful.

What's the score on this sicky.

Since: Sep 13

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#176562 Sep 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Perhaps.
But they are 100% more **HONEST**, when it comes to the evil bible, than 99% of the rest of Genuine Christianity¬ô.
The rest are just Salad Bar Christians¬ô-- picking here and there as they see fit.
Hypocrites, in other words.
The Westbouroh bunch are far less hypocritical.
Please supply and explain your source of data and numbers.

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#176563 Sep 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Hate speech noted from the Pedophile Enabler.
Thanks for playing.
More hate speech notes from CharlieManson's spawn.

Since: Sep 13

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#176564 Sep 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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More hate speech from a Pedophile Enabler.
More hate speech from CharlieManson's spawn.

Since: Sep 13

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#176565 Sep 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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So how do you explain the PEDOPHILIA rampant in your hideous Bastion Of Child Abuse?(cat'lick church)
Hmmmm?
So how do you explain the PAEDOPHILIA 'MORE' rampant child abuse caused by you atheists?

When did you visit your daddy CharlieManson last for some up-to-date indoctrination.

Since: Sep 13

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#176566 Sep 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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LOL!
How do you explain the cowardly ducking of your PREVIOUS Pedophile-in-Chief?
He cowardly ducked out, just before the Nets Of Justice were about to close in-- to reveal him for the child-abusing MONSTER we all know he is.
Hmmm?
How do you explain that MOST child sexual abuse takes place in families where the parents are atheists....like you.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. What goes on in your shack we all wonder.

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#176567 Sep 6, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I am **forced** to use the word "hate", every time I'm describing the likes of **you** and people **like** you.
Of course you hate that-- this is why you project your own seething hatred onto me.
But you cannot explain your Pedophile-In-Chief (pope), can you?
Your hatred towards your fellow man knows no bounds while you are surrounded by your fellow atheists that commit the worst kind of atrocities around the world including the rape and sexual abuse of children.

The Pope is the Pope is the Pope. God will judge the Pope...as He will judge YOU....and that you can never get away from, you hateful excuse for a piece of humanity. You fit right in with Himmler and Stalin and Mao.

Since: Sep 13

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#176568 Sep 6, 2013
False Religion wrote:
If your god is real because we have no evidence that he does not exist, then I can say that I have no evidence that my dog can fly, and you have no evidence that my dog can not fly; therefore, I am justified in believing that my dog can fly.
This is because a flying dog is the sort of thing that can be supported with evidence (if a dog could fly, we would expect to find evidence of the dog zooming through the skies, for example), whereas one would actually expect a non-existent thing to produce no evidence whatsoever. Thus, in the case of non-existence, the absence of evidence is exactly what we would expect to observe.
If God wants humans to believe in him and to follow his will, then he would deliver his message directly, and not leave it up to fallible, sinful humans to deliver an endless plethora of confused and contradictory messages. If God is in fact a supremely powerful being who wants us to set things right and wants to prevent us from getting things even more wrong, then he should have made his views eminently clear to us all. If he has not given the strong evidence required by his desire to have us believe in him, then he clearly does not exist
There should therefore be no more confusion about which religion or doctrine is true than there is about the fundamentals of medicine, engineering, physics, chemistry, etc. But that is manifestly not the case, and even believers in God cannot agree on the content of God's message. Therefore, either God is telling them different things (either deliberately or otherwise), which seems unlikely, or there is no God.
Pigs may fly etcetera.

GOD did send his only Son to show mankind the way to Heaven

Some choose to follow Him. Some do not

Since: Sep 13

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#176569 Sep 6, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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Down on your knees slave or I'll send you to burn forever and i love you and need money
There is no shortage of idiots in this topic and you are one of them.

The only thing that makes sense is that you 'need money'. Your kind always does living in your car.

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#176570 Sep 6, 2013
That should do it.

Are we having fun yet.

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#176571 Sep 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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I forgot to mention this in the other response.
"But there is no space or any volume of it , we know of... not occupied by at least some matter . No matter how sparse the matter is."
With matter you have "substance" in it. That fills in the wake.
Say you have a dust cloud a planet moves into. Much gets pushed out of the way, then much gets sucked into its wake. Space carried it. The dust couldn't hold any position relative to other particles or the planet unless space was displaced. If space is something that occupies volume,then it is a component of the universal transfers of energy and force.
Mass warps space, but space is the volume, much like the sea, space is the water. I have no idea what you are trying to say.

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#176572 Sep 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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No they don't go in circles. They flow pole to pole the best way they can, then back through their source. Most travels within the object and on its surface. About 10% or so gets above the surface, I believe. That is the weak stuff, and that is why it rises up. There is a more complicated secondary flow to that.
Magnets get weaker from the environment working on them, not the load. That is why they make keepers. You can consider those full loads. That field will last as long as the material does absent outside influences.
Electromagnetic energy flows through the geodesics created from mass warping space/time. You know like us seeing light bent around a massive object. Mass and acceleration effects the space/time continuum and Energy follows the curves made by them.
False Religion

Jackson, TN

#176573 Sep 6, 2013
CatholicHolyGhost wrote:
<quoted text>Pigs may fly etcetera.
GOD did send his only Son to show mankind the way to Heaven
Some choose to follow Him. Some do not
Not a single historian, philosopher, scribe or follower who lived before or during the alleged time of Jesus ever mentions him!

We have the gospels portraying Jesus as famous far and wide, a prophet and healer, with great multitudes of people who knew about him, including the greatest Jewish high priests and the Roman authorities of the area, and not one person records his existence during his lifetime? If the poor, the rich, the rulers, the highest priests, and the scribes knew about Jesus, who would not have heard of him?

Then we have a particular astronomical event that would have attracted the attention of anyone interested in the "heavens." According to Luke 23:44-45, there occurred "about the sixth hour, and there was darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour, and the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst." Yet not a single mention of such a three hour ecliptic event got recorded by anyone, including the astronomers and astrologers, anywhere in the world, including Pliny the Elder and Seneca who both recorded eclipses from other dates. Note also that, for obvious reasons, solar eclipses can't occur during a full moon (passovers always occur during full moons), Nor does a single contemporary person write about the earthquake described in Matthew 27:51-54 where the earth shook, rocks ripped apart (rent), and graves opened.

Matthew 2 describes Herod and all of Jerusalem as troubled by the worship of the infant Jesus. Herod then had all of the children of Bethlehem slain. If such extraordinary infanticides of this magnitude had occurred, why didn't anyone write about it?

Since: Sep 08

Las Animas, CO

#176574 Sep 6, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Electromagnetic energy flows through the geodesics created from mass warping space/time. You know like us seeing light bent around a massive object. Mass and acceleration effects the space/time continuum and Energy follows the curves made by them.
I'm not sure you know what you know there.

One question, though

How can mass warp space if there is nothing to warp?

EM, as I have said before, is poorly defined.

There is one aspect in teh study of it and how it relates to the cosmos I haven't seen figured into the calculations yet.

It acts differently here than deep space. Here it acts on matter within its field as it expands outwards. It encounters resistance as it tries to move things like gas atoms so it can pass through, and it also encounters things like water molecules that insert other resistances in the path. What it boils down to is the crust and atmosphere becomes magnets themselves, on the molecular and atomic scale. This is like putting a piece of sheet metal in a magnetic field. It becomes a magnet of its own. All of these components draw on the total field strength. It masks the true strength.

That compass needle you use is sensing the strongest north pole because it is a magnet itself caught in the larger field. It's relative south pole is pointing north. It's north pole facing south strength is less than if it wasn't there. It's a reverse biased magnet. This happens with lots of things on the atomic scale in the crust and atmosphere.

Now understand, what magnetic filed strength left is enough to catch cosmic bullets and route them via flux lines to the earth, where, BTW, they react to those thing sin the air and crust, but it does a LOT of tons a day. Note the term tons. That is mass with gravity.

It's not so weak.

But you also have to realize your body is also caught in that same field, and tied by a long chain with lots of links to the source of that magnetism. You have a gravity and magnetic force binding you to this planet. One reason centrifugal force isn't such an impediment to your functioning at different latitudes. The magnetic strength takes up some slack.

Even a non-magnetic material impedes the flow. It doesn't stop it, it just makes it do some broken field running and loop de loops.

This happens anyplace you have a magnetic field elevated above what it needs to be relatively neutral.

Magnetism is moving space. It moves through space. The space within atoms are like sails that catch it.

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