Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Since: Sep 13

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#176515 Sep 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Space is a volume not occupied by matter.
The space was created with the makings of matter.
Picture a stream of space forming a spinning ball. It has pi to deal with. The ball is bigger than the volume of the stream of space it is formed from. But it's axis pulls in other space on one pole and out the other. This forms matter and its combos.
Matter fluffs space up as it is formed, increasing volume. Expanding space. The motion of space bangs against the walls of what the universe was formed in, expanding the universe.
For space and matter to occupy the same "space", then "space" has to be a complete void. Then you will have no volume. No nothing.
It's a seed that turned into a plant. Or an embryo that is still growing.
Don't pay attention to the other idiots Dave. They are just jealous that you know more than they do.

Since: Sep 13

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#176516 Sep 6, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Nothing hateful about it your comprehension skills are terrible. You should be happy about that. I think there is a chance you do have a soul, but you just fail to comprehend that. If I am right you have reason to celebrate. You've read my claims you know yourself, and are without a soul. Your response was normal calling me a hater. I think the same of you when you suggest it to me. But I do know otherwise.
This poster 'bob of quantum faith' is known within Topix to be a very hateful member.

Since: Sep 13

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#176517 Sep 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Simply wrong. The dust gets compressed in front because it bounces off the planet (or atmosphere) and then interacts with the incoming dust. Space isn't getting compressed: the dust is. If there was no interaction between the dust and itself, there would be no compression.
Similarly, after the planet is past, the dust *expands* into the region behind. Any turbulence is due to the dust interacting with itself. Space did NOT carry it. It moved through space.
Finally, your basic argument is that is space has properties, other things cannot occupy the same location as space does. It is quite possible for there to be many fields in the same region of space, all quite content to be at the same place.
Space is getting compressed.

“My name is Trunks...”

Since: Jun 10

the alternate future

#176518 Sep 6, 2013
Hello there, stranger. I believe we have never laid eyes on each other before this occasion, but I am glad to see a new perspective every once in a while. Listening to the other side is certainly very interesting at times....it helps you become more tolerant of differences in others.

Nice to meet you.

Since: Sep 08

Las Animas, CO

#176519 Sep 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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So you are still talking about unrealistically simplified situations. When you add two forces, the sum doesn't have to line up with the source of either force. So, for a system with three planets, the total force on a planet will NOT be towards another planet. The force also changes because of distance between the planets. And no, for gravity, it is NOT towards the barycenter in general. Exact analytical solutions for even the Newtonian equations of motion are unsolved for three gravitating bodies (although very good approximations can be found).
Magnetic forces on charged particles are *perpendicular* to both the direction of the magnetic field and the direction of motion of the charge. So they do NOT 'line up' in the ways you claim. And no, the mass and motion are NOT 'behind EM'.
Once again, you are wrong in essentially every particular.
Who was talking about planets?

Your scalpel you dissect with is EM forces binding atoms, which, BTW, is mass, and which, in addition, requires motion to move and engage. It can do that by you using EM and the mass and motion of your arm, or just by gravity working on that mass. The sharper the angle of that blade, and the easier it cuts, meaning penetrating the EM force binding the mass of the object to be cut. You pretty much "cut" under 60 degrees, and "smash" above that. The smashing imparts energy within the atoms to break those EM bonds. The "cutting" is roughly the same as smashing, but more "delicate", less force, less "destruction". Less energy required to separate.

Geometry is important when two masses in motion meet as to the final shape of things.

That is a "perpendicular" approach of EM due to it's being wrapped around the atoms. But EM has a start and stop point. It is a flow. You polarize your mass and pass the flow "through" the mass to be separated. This is similar to arc welding, but you do it on a much smaller scale. Flux lines on magnets are made by the individual atomic components within a mass. Your magnetic moments, etc. You pierce instead of smash, and can separate on a finer scale.

Since: Sep 08

Las Animas, CO

#176520 Sep 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Simply wrong. The dust gets compressed in front because it bounces off the planet (or atmosphere) and then interacts with the incoming dust. Space isn't getting compressed: the dust is. If there was no interaction between the dust and itself, there would be no compression.
Similarly, after the planet is past, the dust *expands* into the region behind. Any turbulence is due to the dust interacting with itself. Space did NOT carry it. It moved through space.
Finally, your basic argument is that is space has properties, other things cannot occupy the same location as space does. It is quite possible for there to be many fields in the same region of space, all quite content to be at the same place.
Your many fields are just manmade representations of math models.

You can measure a volume of space. You can not measure a volume of nothing.

Space is a part of the whole. It is a substance. It is an insulator, and it is a carrier of waves. It is also the largest volume within matter itself.

You can't maintain your distance without space.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#176521 Sep 6, 2013
CatholicHolyGhost wrote:
<quoted text>Has anyone ever told you that you are full of kaka.
Life has no meaning without GOD.
I am sorry that is your opinion. MY life has plenty of meaning without any deities.
If you love, learn, teach, read, listen, laugh,dance, explore it only means that within you there is a belief in a deity.
Simply false. it is simple human nature to enjoy these things. no belief in a deity is required, or desired.
Its just that you don't understand what's going on and as said before 'lack Faith' which is everything.
Rather arrogant of you to assume what other believe, don't you think? Your myths are just that: myths. Your incorrect psychology doesn't help your failed beliefs.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#176522 Sep 6, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Who was talking about planets?
Your scalpel you dissect with is EM forces binding atoms, which, BTW, is mass, and which, in addition, requires motion to move and engage. It can do that by you using EM and the mass and motion of your arm, or just by gravity working on that mass. The sharper the angle of that blade, and the easier it cuts, meaning penetrating the EM force binding the mass of the object to be cut. You pretty much "cut" under 60 degrees, and "smash" above that. The smashing imparts energy within the atoms to break those EM bonds. The "cutting" is roughly the same as smashing, but more "delicate", less force, less "destruction". Less energy required to separate.
Geometry is important when two masses in motion meet as to the final shape of things.
That is a "perpendicular" approach of EM due to it's being wrapped around the atoms. But EM has a start and stop point. It is a flow. You polarize your mass and pass the flow "through" the mass to be separated. This is similar to arc welding, but you do it on a much smaller scale. Flux lines on magnets are made by the individual atomic components within a mass. Your magnetic moments, etc. You pierce instead of smash, and can separate on a finer scale.
Please go learn some *actual* physics. You are wrong in essentially every detail.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#176523 Sep 6, 2013
CatholicHolyGhost wrote:
<quoted text>Space is getting compressed.
Not in the situation described, it isn't. In general, even figuring out what it means to say 'space is compressed' is non-trivial and *way* beyond the mental capacities of the fundies around here.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#176524 Sep 6, 2013
CatholicHolyGhost wrote:
<quoted text>Has anyone ever told you that you are full of kaka.
What, are you three years old or something? Kaka? Do you also go make tinkie?

Since: Sep 08

Las Animas, CO

#176525 Sep 6, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
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Not in the situation described, it isn't. In general, even figuring out what it means to say 'space is compressed' is non-trivial and *way* beyond the mental capacities of the fundies around here.
You are under delusion thinking you are thinking totally rational. Which is why you get so upset when others see things in a different light than you.

Space doesn't get "compressed", as in getting reduced in volume, but it does get moved around. It is a volume within the created universe that shifts position within that universe, and it can also get shaped.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176526 Sep 6, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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You can't deny it, if you are right. That sucks. Thank God you are not.
Again? You write nothing useful or even argumentative.

Just more evidence of your massive ego, along with your deep hatred for all unbelievers.

You are one sick duck...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176527 Sep 6, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Nothing hateful about it your comprehension skills are terrible.
Not an argument-- just you, whining. And showing your hate, too.
Robert Stevens wrote:
You should be happy about that. I think there is a chance you do have a soul, but you just fail to comprehend that.
You have zero facts to prove this "soul" crap.

ZERO.

You do not even TRY to prove your garbage-idea!

Instead, you try to belittle anyone who asks you for FACTS.

That is proof of your deeply abiding HATE.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176528 Sep 6, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Really, you are too funny.
You think your hate is FUNNY, now?

Okay-- I can see why you would-- you are a psychopath.

Likely you sit at home planning on how to murder your neighbors...

... fortunately, your grossly obese body isn't up to getting off your couch, let alone up those basement stairs...

... so the world is relatively safe from your hate.

... for now.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176529 Sep 6, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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You are too much. Your ideas of God and The Universe sucks. You should be very happy you can't prove anything. You are more entertaining than the rest of your sort.
Hate speech and jealousy noted.

Thanks for playing: your hate marks you for what you are.

A psychopath.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176530 Sep 6, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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Ye, of poor reading comprehension, not only have I admitted I could give you no argument.
I comprehend your **hate** all too well.

All of your posts reek of your hatred for me and people like me.

You literally ooze hate with each vile word you one-finger bang-out on your detritus-encrusted keyboard. No doubt your other hand is busy underneath the desk, as your fantasizes of infintite torture boil over in your venomous and bile-dripping brain.
Robert Stevens wrote:
I have pointed out to you the argument can not begin and why.
Yes-- everyone knows you are a moron, with less education than a rabid bat.

That much was apparent the **first** time you demonstrated your near-total ignorance.

That you cannot argue? Proves to 100% that you are just delusional.
Robert Stevens wrote:
I tell you we can't have the argument because we lack the knowledge for it, and you start bobbing. Little Red Bobbing Hood fits you so good.
No-- the knowledge is there-- you are just too mindlessly stupid to grasp the consequences of the knowledge.

I posted more than one proof your god cannot possibly exist in the light of the PRESENT KNOWLEDGE.

Did you counter-that proof?

No-- you started whining and displaying your hate instead.

As in THIS monument to your hate.
Robert Stevens wrote:
Honestly your comprehension is worthy of satire.
Honestly, your hate is worthy of an FBI report, as a terrorist-wannabe.

Fortunately, your gross obesity prevents you from rolling off your overburdened couch, to be a threat to anyone.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#176531 Sep 6, 2013
CatholicHolyGhost wrote:
<quoted text>Don't pay attention to the other idiots Dave. They are just jealous that you know more than they do.
Yeah.

That's it.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176532 Sep 6, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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We all have beliefs and most often because we buy into theories of a book. am assuming you are assuming my book of lies is The Bible. If so you are very wrong. If you respond to enough of my logs or post, and continue to insist I am a Christian. I have to mock your reading comprehension. I don't frown upon Christianity a you do, and I don't call anyone's book a book of lies. It is the book that is meant for THEM. In my opinion prior o the internet Atheism was a sort of religion of Philosophy. That was in their own admission, and in books of Philosophy. Great fans of Nietzsche, they took his words and perhaps found them inspiring. I could go on but why, I know you'll deny. You'd deny me my thoughts how could I believe you if you tell me that you don't have such thoughts. I can't see why Dave Nelson waste his time posting such long thought filled post.
Why would **anyone** believe you are **not** a Genuine Christhole™?

You have **all** the trappings of the severely-brain damaged.

You cannot muster up ONE (1) argument in support of your raving insanity.

You do not even TRY. You admit you cannot find ONE (1) argument.

Thus, you admit you are just a raving lunatic-- among too many just like you to count.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176533 Sep 6, 2013
EXPERT wrote:
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There is no reason for an atheist to have a funeral either, right?
Actually? There is--- only an **atheist** would have an **honest** mourning at the death of a loved one.

For you Genuine Christholes™? Do not you believe that the dead corpse is in **heaven**?

For a Genuine Christhole™ such as yourself, ALL FUNERALS SHOULD BE A PARTY--CELEBRATING THE NEW HEAVENLY TENANT.

Is this the case? No!

At **all** Genuine Christhole™ funerals there is MUCH wailing and MUCH bawling and whining and complaining "Oh, Why!" as anyone could imagine.

Proof?

Proof to 100% that THEY DO NOT BELIEVE FOR A SECOND IN HEAVEN.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#176534 Sep 6, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
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The United States has found it does meet the criteria. Congratulations Atheist Church. Let me now paste the online answer to your question. Using Bing this was the first answer.
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.
the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.
the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
I agree with the United States, as I just about all ways do. Again congratulations Atheist Church.
Who gives a shyt?

There were a group of non-believers who wanted the SAME RIGHTS that True Believers™ get under our government hand-outs.

That lovely-lovely TAX EXEMPT FREE RIDE thing.

More power to'em, says I-- why not?

Tax exemption of religion is evil, really-- I'd as soon abolish the whole thing myself.

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