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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#175026 Aug 19, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
The above babble and pack'o'lies is the result of ...
... BRAIN DAMAGE.
Yes, folks, there you have it-- faith DAMAGES YOUR MIND in irrevocable ways such that you can spew such idiotic nonsense as in the above.
It's pretty sad to witness, though.
The above hate-filled nonsense represents another wasted human life.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

<quoted text>
"Of course you don't think that-- you are in the MAJORITY at the present time.
But that time has come-- and is going, fast.
Soon?
Soon you **will** be required to justify your bigotry and hate-- or you will be penalized for public display of it.
Just as you can no longer openly display your hate for People Of Color in the US?(well-- for the most part)
And you are rapidly losing your "right" to display your hatred of LGBT?
Soon enough, you'll be in the **minority** with regards to your idiotic beliefs.
You really ought to be thinking about **that** and begin formulating your "justification" for your ugly hatebeliefs"

There lies your goal. That is sad, but I did know that prior to your post.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#175027 Aug 19, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Pull your head out of it.
there its out take a big ole lick !!!!(_#_)
xianity is EVIL

Wheatley, Canada

#175028 Aug 19, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
When at work, time travels much slower than when at play.
not if you do a work that you enjoy,,:)

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#175029 Aug 19, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>there its out take a big ole lick !!!!(_#_)
Psyche!
Now stick your head back in...lol

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#175030 Aug 19, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not a thread to prove my beliefs. It's a thread to discuss the similarities between faith in religion and faith in atheism, if such a thing exists.
I've written on this exhaustively and settled the matter sometime back.
Let's start from the treads name "Atheism requires as much faith as religion?" The question mark in my opinion, means the word does belongs there, as the first word, causing the question. You admitting you have beliefs, that requires faith. Back to the question or just part of it "as much as religion". Not the question of style, but as much. Clearly faith is required. In my opinion answering the question asked. More faith than religion. The greatest evidence is here online, if this was not true this minority of people would not have so many online post treads, and the most blogged upon treads. The real question is, and I hope one day it is covered here "Could atheism be the majority, and not be fundamentalist?" I am sorry but my answer is "No" ad I don't think freedom of speech or religion would be afforded by such a group. Please spare me the mid evil ages crap. I am all ready telling that was just the times period.
xianity is EVIL

Wheatley, Canada

#175031 Aug 19, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's start from the treads name "Atheism requires as much faith as religion?" The question mark in my opinion, means the word does belongs there, as the first word, causing the question. You admitting you have beliefs, that requires faith. Back to the question or just part of it "as much as religion". Not the question of style, but as much. Clearly faith is required. In my opinion answering the question asked. More faith than religion. The greatest evidence is here online, if this was not true this minority of people would not have so many online post treads, and the most blogged upon treads. The real question is, and I hope one day it is covered here "Could atheism be the majority, and not be fundamentalist?" I am sorry but my answer is "No" ad I don't think freedom of speech or religion would be afforded by such a group. Please spare me the mid evil ages crap. I am all ready telling that was just the times period.
is there anything good positive in your religion?

“Robert Stevens”

Since: Dec 08

Jersey City , NJ

#175032 Aug 19, 2013
xianity is EVIL wrote:
<quoted text>
is there anything good positive in your religion?
That would be off topic. No kidding I must have ran into a few hundred topics requesting theist to explain. There is just one reason you won't explain why you continue to state your beliefs as fact. It is as simple as what you've done for since the internet started. You can't prove it physically. I am telling you here and now on a tread giving you the burden of prove in accordance to it's title you can't. I do admit I have beliefs and faith, it can't be scientifically proven. I have no problem with that I never said my faith is 100% certain, that is why I call it faith. Because you can't prove what you believe as fact, you have faith. Please don't waste your time I can tell you, you can not prove The Universe is without a creator.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#175033 Aug 19, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks, LB. I'm pretty stupid with my time, that's true.
To be honest, I like the Wolverine and his history through the comic books in Japan, but I really hate it when American pop culture portrays a stupid version of our culture.
Like This?



http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#175034 Aug 19, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
she/he is a closeted homosexual
Bro. Clownie (Counselor to the good, the bad, and the ugly)

P.S.- Mikko, Counselor Clownie promises he will not look at your pic and bust out laughing while posting to you. YO

LAFFIN MY @$$ OFF YELLING YO

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#175036 Aug 19, 2013
It's so funny how you humiliate yourself on here for our amusement puppet. Hey tell us again how 29 scores of 95% averages 0%!

Senile old Dave Nelson, always good for a laugh!
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not a special organ. It is the normal tuning of your body. An effect of having nerves feeding signals to the brain. You are an antenna. Fire is EM effect, sweetheart. So is sunlight. It comes in varying levels. Cold is sucking EM out, figuratively speaking. Your skin is sensitive. Like you ignore some warmth or cold to go about your business, you also ignore the more extreme edges of the range you can detect. It's quite a range.

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#175037 Aug 19, 2013
Dave always has some tinfoil wrapped around his injured head. leave that tinfoil alone!:))
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure you have plenty to spare.
These days, they use aluminum foil.
Do you really have some tin? I need some solder for my washer hookup. Nah, I'll just go to Lowes.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175038 Aug 19, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
How did you come up with that???
It's his love of his Jesus-- so very gay, you see.

He has a fetish for that sort of sex... that's why he draws pictures of his savior's backside...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175039 Aug 19, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd say you're more than just little bit anal retentive, to the point of having ass fixations.
What else?

He's gay for his Jesus, after all.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#175040 Aug 19, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
"Of course you don't think that-- you are in the MAJORITY at the present time.
But that time has come-- and is going, fast.
Soon?
Soon you **will** be required to justify your bigotry and hate-- or you will be penalized for public display of it.
Just as you can no longer openly display your hate for People Of Color in the US?(well-- for the most part)
And you are rapidly losing your "right" to display your hatred of LGBT?
Soon enough, you'll be in the **minority** with regards to your idiotic beliefs.
You really ought to be thinking about **that** and begin formulating your "justification" for your ugly hatebeliefs"
There lies your goal. That is sad, but I did know that prior to your post.
Your god isn't real.

Threatening an atheist with your god's imaginary punishment?

Is **exactly** like, ME telling you that Santa won't be giving you presents in December...

**exactly** the same.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#175041 Aug 19, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>kinda cool huh here are more (_o_) farting,(_*_) tight (_#_) not wiped (_!_) butt crack
Uhm...I wish I didn't know these things now.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#175042 Aug 19, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's start from the treads name "Atheism requires as much faith as religion?" The question mark in my opinion, means the word does belongs there, as the first word, causing the question. You admitting you have beliefs, that requires faith. Back to the question or just part of it "as much as religion". Not the question of style, but as much. Clearly faith is required. In my opinion answering the question asked. More faith than religion. The greatest evidence is here online, if this was not true this minority of people would not have so many online post treads, and the most blogged upon treads. The real question is, and I hope one day it is covered here "Could atheism be the majority, and not be fundamentalist?" I am sorry but my answer is "No" ad I don't think freedom of speech or religion would be afforded by such a group. Please spare me the mid evil ages crap. I am all ready telling that was just the times period.
If we argue enough, we're eventually going to agree that all of what we know are actually "beliefs." Sure, fine, I have no problem with that. Nor do I have an issue calling my atheism "a believe that no deities exist." No worries. All good.

The thing is, if you are comparing your faith in your deity to my faith, say, in toothpaste - I don't really know how it works and if it declares "whitens your teeth!" I buy it, trusting it will - that's pretty sad for you.

I mean, I would hope that, as a believer, faith would have some special meaning for you. But, hey, if you're here declaring to me that your faith in God is the same as mine in toothpaste, I will simply trust you - for you are backing up why I am an atheist.

If I was a believer, I'd want my faith to mean something special. I'd want it to be different than everyday trust in technology that I don't understand. But no problem. I don't believe in deities, so your use of the word faith works for me and makes sense.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#175043 Aug 19, 2013
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> Like This?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =jbQ_8gsTZB0XX
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
The first is ... more about American culture than anything. The second...yeah, Japanese commercials are ridiculous.

Thanks for those, pretty funny.

But no, that's not what I meant. I meant the very strange interpretations of Budo, Zen, and Bujitsu.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#175044 Aug 19, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
Loony has said he is 66.
I was an atheist before the Beatles arrived. Guess we three are all geezers.
My atheism was derived quite independently. No coaches or books to read. Based upon many of the same arguments you read on here all of the time, but without the snarkiness. Was just my personal take on the thing and belief. Lots of people back then knew the Bible wasn't literal, and didn't have much liking of preachers and their hypocrisy, but were ethnic Christians and what you described was just part of the culture. One thing accomplished by such was a humbleness acknowledged to a higher moral authority. Contrast that to a group of men that feel and think they are the highest moral authority because of some position of power and authority they possessed.
Preachers didn't run the government, they were a check and balance on it. Moral restraints on power that could get carried away.
Oh, men could misuse the authority of the church, but for the larger view, the church kept the men running your life more honest.
My atheism was mitigated from observation of how men are, my current belief in a higher intelligent force that resulted in our creation is based upon observation, understanding, and use of technology. Quite independently derived. Which is why you don't see me constantly referring to something others refer to as the definitive word written by someone.
Now, tell me about Hitchens, Dawkins, and a few other atheist heroes of the latter decades, and freethinking.
I would hate to see that crew run free at the helms of power.
Lagoon is 66? Well, maybe I'm a bit of a kid after all....but not by much;0) Ahhh, the Beatles making their big debut on the Ed Sullivan Show, now that was quite an experience.

Who was it that said, "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely?" Don't remember, but it was said by a man about his fellow man. No deities required.

My observance of my experiences and history show that the Bible was accepted as literal until cold hard facts proved otherwise. Now many (not all) accept a more relaxed metaphorical interpretation of the book. Jesus spoke in parables so other things were allowed to slide too.

I don't mind being humbled by a higher power, I am humbled by many things like a view of the stars at night, that puts my place in the universe into perspective just fine. I just refuse to be humbled by a nonexistent entity for if this particular entity did exist, s/he/it is not worth the trouble. I don't need a deity to try to be honest or to tell the truth, perhaps this is where we differ.

Hitchens is quite dead, he was a witty and very acerbic public speaker and author....but he's dead. As for Dawkins, I don't think I would fear putting him at the helm, he is a rational, logical man. He might just approach some of our problems from that viewpoint and I don't see it as a bad thing. If he has compassion also, he would be great for the job but I fear he's even older than we are, so.....;0)

You seem to think that compassion and morality is generated by church teachings, no, I don't agree with that at all. Just look at Bill Gates....perhaps he should be in power, his credentials are quite good. Again, no deity required.

“GOD SO LOVED US”

Since: Aug 08

He Gave His SON,JESUS Christ

#175045 Aug 19, 2013
Robert Stevens wrote:
<quoted text>
That would be off topic. No kidding I must have ran into a few hundred topics requesting theist to explain. There is just one reason you won't explain why you continue to state your beliefs as fact. It is as simple as what you've done for since the internet started. You can't prove it physically. I am telling you here and now on a tread giving you the burden of prove in accordance to it's title you can't. I do admit I have beliefs and faith, it can't be scientifically proven. I have no problem with that I never said my faith is 100% certain, that is why I call it faith. Because you can't prove what you believe as fact, you have faith. Please don't waste your time I can tell you, you can not prove The Universe is without a creator.
IMO

IT does not just require the faith of a religion ..it is one ..Not that RELIGION is a great thing ..Faith ..is what's,important ..in God .

http://firstchurchofatheism.com/

Now you can be ordained in the atheist religion

Atheist churches,are springing up all over

The atheists are just as much fundamnntalist as the most extreme cult .

who travels thousands,of miles ..to a tiny town in order to say THAT TOWN's Christmas traditions offend them ..they don't live there nor pay taxes,there..I wouldn't go to a parade a half mile away to say I'm offended..my town is ful of rainbos signs and flags in front of houses.
There are also Christmas displays ...

Who cares,.long as they don't put anything on my front yard .I don't care

But some of the atheists make it a cause ..I'm sure they get donatiins to sponsor this stuff ..

It's HATRED. Worse than much I have seen by Christians or Jews,

If you don't like a nativity scene or a menorah..
Don't go out if your way to see one..it's,just plain foolish..But mire it's,evil ..when taken to extremes

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#175046 Aug 19, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
Since that is NOT Hawking's argument, you are merely showing your ignorance.
I know next to nothing about Physics, Quantum Theory, higher math, etc.

I often argue from the viewpoint of my experience and/or knowledge. Why these theological arguments usually wind up with bickering over a scientific point that leans neither towards or away from supernatural powers, I've never quite understood. Science can only deal with what can be proven.***shrugs***

I DO know better than to argue from lack of comprehension (be it ignorance or stupidity), lol.

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