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Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172953 Jul 25, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Very informative- as usual - thank you!
All my posting is done from my iPhone5.
I avoid Zoosk Facebook LinkedIn Twitter Skype et al.
I post where an opinion can be entered without joining anything.
I spend a lot of time in Florida so the Zimmerman trial is been a point of interest last several weeks.
I also delete/disable the dedicated "twitter" engines from my devices.

Of course, I never post on anything using my Galaxy 3, but that's neither here nor there. It's not because of my data plan--that's unlimited, it's because this is a hobby.

And I can type 70+ words a minute on my desktop's split ergo keyboard.

I type maybe 1 or 2 words a minute on those tiny virtual kb's the phone has. I have a bluetooth kb, but I never bother with it.

----------

I can understand your worry about Fl's "kill them quick" law, idiotically called "stand your ground".

The **results** of that law have translated into "kill them quick"-- because if they live? You get tried for **attempted** murder.

If you **kill** your adversary? You can invoke "stand your ground", and get off scott free...

... WTF?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172954 Jul 25, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
The majority of the time I use the corporate laptop.
This is limited solely to the company intranet.
Travel quite a bit mostly east of the Mississippi River.
As far as editing topics does have a flaw and I'm sure you've noticed it!
If you find an article that contains offensive words from any website, copy and paste this article into notes, Edit for content include URL and post to topics.
Error occurs saying please refrain from using bad language or something to that effect.
Reenter the same four numbers, press post comment, the whole post goes through un-edited or restricted.
As a computer professional it's only doing this edit one time, then bypasses it!
But.

If you **do** post the unaltered comment that was flagged?

It **only** appears to **you**-- it's blanked to most posters, and does not show at all.

Which is why some of your posts may go ignored by everyone--- it's blanked, and they don't tell you that.

Use a different browser that has **no** Topix cookies, and you'll see what I mean.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#172955 Jul 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
A **brilliant** analogy.
Well done!
One is minded of the Rabbi Eliyahu's (or Rabbi ben Bezalel's) Golem of Prague.

Sorry.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172956 Jul 25, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>One is minded of the Rabbi Eliyahu's (or Rabbi ben Bezalel's) Golem of Prague.
Sorry.
Oooohh... good catch, yes.

That is an interesting tale of ignoring the consequences.(among other things)

I once ran a D&D campaign/adventure loosely based on that story.

:)
Imhotep

Silver Springs, FL

#172957 Jul 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I also delete/disable the dedicated "twitter" engines from my devices.
Of course, I never post on anything using my Galaxy 3, but that's neither here nor there. It's not because of my data plan--that's unlimited, it's because this is a hobby.
And I can type 70+ words a minute on my desktop's split ergo keyboard.
I type maybe 1 or 2 words a minute on those tiny virtual kb's the phone has. I have a bluetooth kb, but I never bother with it.
----------
I can understand your worry about Fl's "kill them quick" law, idiotically called "stand your ground".
The **results** of that law have translated into "kill them quick"-- because if they live? You get tried for **attempted** murder.
If you **kill** your adversary? You can invoke "stand your ground", and get off scott free...
... WTF?
STG law is in 17 states.

What would happen if the "suspicious person" was a unarmed white teen , was shot dead, and the shooter claimed self-defense?

There would be no white mobs in the street chanting "No justice, no peace!" There would be no whites holding a "million hoodie march" in NYC.

There would be no white equivalent of Al Sharpton, the professional race-baiter behind the 1987 Tawana Brawley hoax, leading marches in the streets of the shooter's hometown.

There would be no Federal civil rights investigation by the Justice Department.

There would be no comments from a president who seems congenitally unable to keep his mouth shut on matters involving left-wing political correctness.

And there would be no national media attention from biased, left-wing "reporters."

In all probability, the actions of Zimmerman in Florida were also based on a series of poor decisions: the decision to follow a suspect after a police dispatcher told him not to, the decision to confront a suspect with a firearm off his own property, and a split-second decision to shoot an unarmed person when Zimmerman felt his life was in imminent danger, resulting in tragedy.

But a tragedy is not necessarily a Federal civil rights case - unless the mobs in the streets and their allies in the media and government want to make it one.

The truth of the matter is that "civil rights" cases are often little more than reverse lynch mobs.

Today, blacks often led by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, lead street protests or riots, and the Federal government comes after white suspects with the "rope" of "civil rights" charges.

And just like the old Southern sheriffs with ties to the Klan who turned a blind eye to the illegal actions of whites, the Department of Justice often refuses to act on "civil rights" violations when the perpetrators are black and the victims are white.

In the eyes of the Federal government and the political Left, all whites are forever suspected of being Klansmen with shotguns in their pickup trucks, and all blacks are perpetually innocent, doe-eyed victims of white oppression.

I seldom agree with Bill O'Reilly but someone sent me this link...

http://www.billoreilly.com/video...

Back on topic I find it ironic is 76-year-old Virgin is in the land of non-versions a.k.a. Brazil!
Imhotep

Silver Springs, FL

#172958 Jul 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I also delete/disable the dedicated "twitter" engines from my devices.
Of course, I never post on anything using my Galaxy 3, but that's neither here nor there. It's not because of my data plan--that's unlimited, it's because this is a hobby.
And I can type 70+ words a minute on my desktop's split ergo keyboard.
I type maybe 1 or 2 words a minute on those tiny virtual kb's the phone has. I have a bluetooth kb, but I never bother with it.
----------
I can understand your worry about Fl's "kill them quick" law, idiotically called "stand your ground".
The **results** of that law have translated into "kill them quick"-- because if they live? You get tried for **attempted** murder.
If you **kill** your adversary? You can invoke "stand your ground", and get off scott free...
... WTF?
Sidebar!
Jesse and Al are Jesus pseudo professionals!
Reverends ? Lmao!

Another sordid example of religion perverting itself

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172959 Jul 25, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
STG law is in 17 states.
What would happen if the "suspicious person" was a unarmed white teen , was shot dead, and the shooter claimed self-defense?
Depends.

Is the shooter black?

Then.....

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#172961 Jul 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Oooohh... good catch, yes.
That is an interesting tale of ignoring the consequences.(among other things)
I once ran a D&D campaign/adventure loosely based on that story.
:)
"Go ahead, annoy the DM.
It's your soul."

Laffin. Once upon a time, yes, even I went there.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#172962 Jul 25, 2013
Some DMs were humourless.

"No, you can't call your character 'Eric the Cleric'. This isn't all a bloody joke, you know. You must give him a different name."

"How about Derek?"

"Get out."
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"Go ahead, annoy the DM.
It's your soul."
Laffin. Once upon a time, yes, even I went there.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#172963 Jul 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Some DMs were humourless.
"No, you can't call your character 'Eric the Cleric'. This isn't all a bloody joke, you know. You must give him a different name."
"How about Derek?"
"Get out."
<quoted text>
Hehehe.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#172964 Jul 25, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Some DMs were humourless.
"No, you can't call your character 'Eric the Cleric'. This isn't all a bloody joke, you know. You must give him a different name."
"How about Derek?"
"Get out."
<quoted text>
Those people are like religious nuts, Those people hate uber too, obviously you don't want to name your character Jon Luke Piccard to play in LOTRs , but who gives a rats ass if you did? LOL I remember a Russian that had a chara named
Windows XP...lmao

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#172965 Jul 25, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
STG law is in 17 states.
What would happen if the "suspicious person" was a unarmed white teen , was shot dead, and the shooter claimed self-defense?
There would be no white mobs in the street chanting "No justice, no peace!" There would be no whites holding a "million hoodie march" in NYC.
There would be no white equivalent of Al Sharpton, the professional race-baiter behind the 1987 Tawana Brawley hoax, leading marches in the streets of the shooter's hometown.
There would be no Federal civil rights investigation by the Justice Department.
There would be no comments from a president who seems congenitally unable to keep his mouth shut on matters involving left-wing political correctness.
And there would be no national media attention from biased, left-wing "reporters."
In all probability, the actions of Zimmerman in Florida were also based on a series of poor decisions: the decision to follow a suspect after a police dispatcher told him not to, the decision to confront a suspect with a firearm off his own property, and a split-second decision to shoot an unarmed person when Zimmerman felt his life was in imminent danger, resulting in tragedy.
But a tragedy is not necessarily a Federal civil rights case - unless the mobs in the streets and their allies in the media and government want to make it one.
The truth of the matter is that "civil rights" cases are often little more than reverse lynch mobs.
Today, blacks often led by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, lead street protests or riots, and the Federal government comes after white suspects with the "rope" of "civil rights" charges.
And just like the old Southern sheriffs with ties to the Klan who turned a blind eye to the illegal actions of whites, the Department of Justice often refuses to act on "civil rights" violations when the perpetrators are black and the victims are white.
In the eyes of the Federal government and the political Left, all whites are forever suspected of being Klansmen with shotguns in their pickup trucks, and all blacks are perpetually innocent, doe-eyed victims of white oppression.
I seldom agree with Bill O'Reilly but someone sent me this link...
http://www.billoreilly.com/video...
Back on topic I find it ironic is 76-year-old Virgin is in the land of non-versions a.k.a. Brazil!
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/race-baiting...

Be sure to read the second page and note the uses of AZ Tea and Skittles, and the text exchanges.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#172966 Jul 25, 2013
This DM didn't like 'Aladdin the Paladin', either. I didn't play once I hit 17 (my age - not a roll on a D20) as a result.
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Those people are like religious nuts, Those people hate uber too, obviously you don't want to name your character Jon Luke Piccard to play in LOTRs , but who gives a rats ass if you did? LOL I remember a Russian that had a chara named
Windows XP...lmao

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#172967 Jul 25, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
STG law is in 17 states.
What would happen if the "suspicious person" was a unarmed white teen , was shot dead, and the shooter claimed self-defense?
If the shooter was black, he would have been arrested immediately and ultimately found guilty in spite of SYG. That didn't happen with Zimmerman, which is why there was an issue.

Let's put it a different way. Suppose your daughter was walking home alone and a strange man followed along in a car. The man then gets out of the car and want to know what your daughter wanted around there. Is it safe to assume she would at first ignore the stranger? If the stranger then got upset and confronted your daughter, would she not fight back? And if the stranger *at any point* felt scared, would he have the right to shoot your daughter?

The system isn't grotesquely unfair to black male teens. If the races were switched, the black man shooting the white teenager would have had a 20 year sentence. Sort of like the woman who shot *into the air* to warn off her *abusive* husband. oh, she was black. I guess SYG doesn't apply to her.

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#172968 Jul 25, 2013
Sorry, it *is* grotesquely unfair to black male teens.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#172969 Jul 25, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
STG law is in 17 states.
What would happen if the "suspicious person" was a unarmed white teen , was shot dead, and the shooter claimed self-defense?
There would be no white mobs in the street chanting "No justice, no peace!" There would be no whites holding a "million hoodie march" in NYC.
There would be no white equivalent of Al Sharpton, the professional race-baiter behind the 1987 Tawana Brawley hoax, leading marches in the streets of the shooter's hometown.
There would be no Federal civil rights investigation by the Justice Department.
There would be no comments from a president who seems congenitally unable to keep his mouth shut on matters involving left-wing political correctness.
And there would be no national media attention from biased, left-wing "reporters."
In all probability, the actions of Zimmerman in Florida were also based on a series of poor decisions: the decision to follow a suspect after a police dispatcher told him not to, the decision to confront a suspect with a firearm off his own property, and a split-second decision to shoot an unarmed person when Zimmerman felt his life was in imminent danger, resulting in tragedy.
But a tragedy is not necessarily a Federal civil rights case - unless the mobs in the streets and their allies in the media and government want to make it one.
The truth of the matter is that "civil rights" cases are often little more than reverse lynch mobs.
Today, blacks often led by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, lead street protests or riots, and the Federal government comes after white suspects with the "rope" of "civil rights" charges.
And just like the old Southern sheriffs with ties to the Klan who turned a blind eye to the illegal actions of whites, the Department of Justice often refuses to act on "civil rights" violations when the perpetrators are black and the victims are white.
In the eyes of the Federal government and the political Left, all whites are forever suspected of being Klansmen with shotguns in their pickup trucks, and all blacks are perpetually innocent, doe-eyed victims of white oppression.
I seldom agree with Bill O'Reilly but someone sent me this link...
http://www.billoreilly.com/video...
Back on topic I find it ironic is 76-year-old Virgin is in the land of non-versions a.k.a. Brazil!
and no whites are protesting this story either:
Fla. woman Marissa Alexander gets 20 years for "warning shot": Did she stand her ground?

Jacksonville mother Marissa Alexander was sentenced by a Florida judge to 20 years in prison for firing what she says was a "warning shot" into the wall after a physical altercation with her husband, Rico Gray.

The case has set off yet another controversy involving the state's "stand your ground" law, which is under intense scrutiny after the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in February. Critics, including Congresswoman Corrine Brown (D-Fla.), are crying foul. How, they ask, could a 31-year-old woman in a relationship with a man who had a history of domestic violence, and whose actions did not result in any physical injury, be sentenced to two decades in prison while George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed Martin, is out on bail?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-574347...

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#172970 Jul 25, 2013
DNF wrote:
<quoted text>and no whites are protesting this story either:
Fla. woman Marissa Alexander gets 20 years for "warning shot": Did she stand her ground?
Jacksonville mother Marissa Alexander was sentenced by a Florida judge to 20 years in prison for firing what she says was a "warning shot" into the wall after a physical altercation with her husband, Rico Gray.
The case has set off yet another controversy involving the state's "stand your ground" law, which is under intense scrutiny after the shooting death of Trayvon Martin in February. Critics, including Congresswoman Corrine Brown (D-Fla.), are crying foul. How, they ask, could a 31-year-old woman in a relationship with a man who had a history of domestic violence, and whose actions did not result in any physical injury, be sentenced to two decades in prison while George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed Martin, is out on bail?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-574347...
Angela Corey is the one catching the hell from Rep Brown. She is the DA who crucified Marissa Alexander. She should never have been charged. Lots of people are real upset with Ms. Corey's liberal style.
Thinking

Royston, UK

#172971 Jul 25, 2013
Guns make outcomes so very final. Without a gun being involved, this would probably just have been an assault case.
polymath257 wrote:
Sorry, it *is* grotesquely unfair to black male teens.
Imhotep

Silver Springs, FL

#172972 Jul 25, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
If the shooter was black, he would have been arrested immediately and ultimately found guilty in spite of SYG. That didn't happen with Zimmerman, which is why there was an issue.
Let's put it a different way. Suppose your daughter was walking home alone and a strange man followed along in a car. The man then gets out of the car and want to know what your daughter wanted around there. Is it safe to assume she would at first ignore the stranger? If the stranger then got upset and confronted your daughter, would she not fight back? And if the stranger *at any point* felt scared, would he have the right to shoot your daughter?
The system isn't grotesquely unfair to black male teens. If the races were switched, the black man shooting the white teenager would have had a 20 year sentence. Sort of like the woman who shot *into the air* to warn off her *abusive* husband. oh, she was black. I guess SYG doesn't apply to her.
This case should never have gone to trial!

Zero evidence zero credibility.

The verdict was a forgone conclusion.

Reviewing Florida state law and statutes and state instructions to the jury there was no other possible verdict.

The prosecution should've understood this!

They are supposed to be professional attorneys.

Instead they allowed themselves to be driven by professional race Baiters.

And yes it's ironic that the states star witness turned out to be the defense star witness.

This kid was already in trouble.
If he had not "whooped" GZ, He would be pursuing his ongoing criminal activities, Which he himself outlined in Twitter and Facebook.

If his parents did any serious parenting he would have been living with one of them And not being suspended from school multiple times.

What were the parents thinking after suspension number one? what action did they take?- apparently neither one did anything.

Where were all those tears then?

I do not watch Fox news but a friend sent me this link and for once O'Reilly has something to say that made sense.

http://www.billoreilly.com/video...

See 7/22 clip

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#172973 Jul 25, 2013
polymath257 wrote:
<quoted text>
If the shooter was black, he would have been arrested immediately and ultimately found guilty in spite of SYG. That didn't happen with Zimmerman, which is why there was an issue.
Let's put it a different way. Suppose your daughter was walking home alone and a strange man followed along in a car. The man then gets out of the car and want to know what your daughter wanted around there. Is it safe to assume she would at first ignore the stranger? If the stranger then got upset and confronted your daughter, would she not fight back? And if the stranger *at any point* felt scared, would he have the right to shoot your daughter?
The system isn't grotesquely unfair to black male teens. If the races were switched, the black man shooting the white teenager would have had a 20 year sentence. Sort of like the woman who shot *into the air* to warn off her *abusive* husband. oh, she was black. I guess SYG doesn't apply to her.
The situation is grossly different.
She left, returned days later demanded he leave, he would not.
She went to her car and got a gun and demanded he and her children leave. He would not so she fired the gun.

Now you please explain when her life was in danger?
She could have , and should have just left.

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