Atheism requires as much faith as rel...

Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#172931 Jul 24, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
http://washington.cbslocal.com /2013/07/23/poll-majority-of-a mericans-believe-god-played-ro le-in-human-evolution/

God and evolution.
A majority of Americans are stupid.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#172932 Jul 24, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Bullshit.

But that's your best move, apart from outright lying, is BS.

Isn't it?

Your pathetic attempts to denigrate your enemies-- to show them some "love" (in the Orwellian sense, naturally)falls flat.

Your Jewsus would be so **not** proud of you.
Dave is our resident comedian.

He's always good for a laugh.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#172933 Jul 24, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Please explain why your god has to kill something before he can manage to forgive.

Can you explain this limitation of your god?
Limitation? LOL

I would explain it but I won't, not to you at least.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172934 Jul 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
Limitation? LOL
I would explain it but I won't, not to you at least.
Yes, it appears your god is QUITE LIMITED.

He cannot muster up enough God MoJo to FORGIVE, unless he tastes BLOOD--

-- a LOT of blood-- a WHOLE BEING must die.

Can you explain why?

If you cannot-- I understand-- you are simply a drone, who lacks any and all comprehension about the god you serve.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#172935 Jul 24, 2013
The Almighty Tzar wrote:
<quoted text>
Limitation? LOL
I would explain it but I won't, not to you at least.
Then explain it to me you coward. Why does your God revel in killing? He apparently enjoys murdering little babies and destroying unborn fetuses, although anyone seems fair game for this psychopath. So.....pony up there buck.....why does your God so enjoy killing?......Can't answer can ya.........cat got yer tongue..........yeah, I thought so!!!!!
25or6to4

Fond Du Lac, WI

#172936 Jul 24, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Then why believe in any kind of God? To what advantage is there to you believing that God is "unapproachable mysteriousness?" If so, then your belief is totally worthless!!!
God is thought of as a person because that is the only frame of reference we have. God is portrayed as a being that in fact does get angry, does communicate, has plans, and has a message for humanity, that is the stance of Christianity. Jesus was a human, the Christian doctrine has Jesus/God/the holy spirit as ONE entity.
I find any idea of God worthless, the belief in a God being has absolutely no advantage over not believing.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I agree that belief in a "non-person" kind of God would not hold much value, other than just being overwhelmed by the incomprehensible. But in my view, if God is not "person-like," then God could be quantum fluctuations, dark energy, the Big Bang, or any number of phenomenon that we don't totally understand. That certainly doesn't give one any moral compass or hope of redemption, but does instill humility. As for Christianity, I always thought that one of its most appealing aspects is that, if you believe, then God becomes tangible, relatable, and yes, lovable. There's certainly an appealing beauty in to be found in the "God becomes man" ideology. On the other hand, I also think it opens the door for some to portray "what God (Jesus) wants" in terms of their own all-too-human personal agendas (e.g., God really gets offended by homosexuality, or God blesses my country because he's a great fan of capitalism, or God just created a hurricane to punish immoral people, well... the list goes on and on.) Again, thanks for your well-measured and reflective comment. I appreciate it.
25or6to4

Fond Du Lac, WI

#172937 Jul 24, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>Then why believe in any kind of God? To what advantage is there to you believing that God is "unapproachable mysteriousness?" If so, then your belief is totally worthless!!!
God is thought of as a person because that is the only frame of reference we have. God is portrayed as a being that in fact does get angry, does communicate, has plans, and has a message for humanity, that is the stance of Christianity. Jesus was a human, the Christian doctrine has Jesus/God/the holy spirit as ONE entity.
I find any idea of God worthless, the belief in a God being has absolutely no advantage over not believing.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I agree that belief in a "non-person" kind of God would not hold much value, other than just being overwhelmed by the incomprehensible. But in my view, if God is not "person-like," then God could be quantum fluctuations, dark energy, the Big Bang, or any number of phenomenon that we don't totally understand. That certainly doesn't give one any moral compass or hope of redemption, but does instill humility. As for Christianity, I always thought that one of its most appealing aspects is that, if you believe, then God becomes tangible, relatable, and yes, lovable. There's certainly an appealing beauty to be found in the "God becomes man" ideology. On the other hand, I also think it opens the door for some to portray "what God (Jesus) wants" in terms of their own all-too-human personal agendas (e.g., God really gets offended by homosexuality, or God blesses my country because he's a great fan of capitalism, or God just created a hurricane to punish immoral people, well... the list goes on and on.) Again, thanks for your well-measured and reflective comment. I appreciate it.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#172940 Jul 24, 2013
25or6to4 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I agree that belief in a "non-person" kind of God would not hold much value, other than just being overwhelmed by the incomprehensible. But in my view, if God is not "person-like," then God could be quantum fluctuations, dark energy, the Big Bang, or any number of phenomenon that we don't totally understand. That certainly doesn't give one any moral compass or hope of redemption, but does instill humility. As for Christianity, I always thought that one of its most appealing aspects is that, if you believe, then God becomes tangible, relatable, and yes, lovable. There's certainly an appealing beauty in to be found in the "God becomes man" ideology. On the other hand, I also think it opens the door for some to portray "what God (Jesus) wants" in terms of their own all-too-human personal agendas (e.g., God really gets offended by homosexuality, or God blesses my country because he's a great fan of capitalism, or God just created a hurricane to punish immoral people, well... the list goes on and on.) Again, thanks for your well-measured and reflective comment. I appreciate it.
I'm still mystified at why you think it important to affix the label "GOD" to things like quantum fluctuations, dark energy, the big bang, or anything else we don't fully understand. What advantage is there to this extra step? The events themselves instill humility. I can imagine anyone contemplating the vastness of the cosmos and not being humbled. Isn't the mystery of the cosmos more inspiring by itself without affixing an imaginary being to it? I just don't understand the extra step.

As for Christianity and getting to "know" God, all reason and logic, along with taking the bible as Gods word, portray his as extremely immoral and cruel. I see no Love in his slaughtering babies, and committing genocide. Slavery, rape, blood sacrifice, I'd just as zoo NOT get to know anyone like this.

And thank you for the civil dialog, it seems a rare occurrence on this site.
blacklagoon

Brookline, MA

#172941 Jul 24, 2013
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
He only kills people like you , and in due time. We see why.
So God only kills Atheist? Who knew.....He never kills Christians or, Jews, or Hindu's, or Muslims, only Atheists? Wow, he really is an azzhole, worse than I thought.

Yeah, he kills little babies, read your bible Christian, he murdered ALL of the first born male babies of the Egyptians, nasty thing to do, poor little innocent babies. How many pregnant women do you suppose there were when he took a hissy fit and flooded the entire globe? All were carrying unborn fetuses, he destroyed all of them, shit you worship one nasty dude there bucky!!!

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#172942 Jul 24, 2013
blacklagoon wrote:
<quoted text>So God only kills Atheist? Who knew.....He never kills Christians or, Jews, or Hindu's, or Muslims, only Atheists? Wow, he really is an azzhole, worse than I thought.
Yeah, he kills little babies, read your bible Christian, he murdered ALL of the first born male babies of the Egyptians, nasty thing to do, poor little innocent babies. How many pregnant women do you suppose there were when he took a hissy fit and flooded the entire globe? All were carrying unborn fetuses, he destroyed all of them, shit you worship one nasty dude there bucky!!!
A mad Jewish scientist thought he created the perfect weapon, he called it god. He became a lunatic causing it to kill everybody except Jews, except it started killing Jews too. He forgot to invent an "off" button for it.
An atheist came up with an off button, but the religious nuts still have problem with it, they cant find it. But it does have one and is best kept in the off position, in the "on" position it's a lunatics weapon.

Since: Jun 13

Milwaukee, WI

#172943 Jul 25, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
:-)
I'll let you slide on that question. I know you aren't on here to impress anyone with your brains.
Developed thoughts, in addition to material creatures, require a seed to sprout from. Sorry about your crop failure.
i belive your a troll sent here to just take up spce with your postings trololo

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#172944 Jul 25, 2013
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
He only kills people like you , and in due time. We see why.
Yep. You are deity is hate filled murderer just like you.

“Exercise Your Brain”

Since: Jun 07

Planet Earth

#172945 Jul 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no idea why it flagged "bl#ck powder" but replacing the vowel seemed to spoof it well enough.
But it's not the first time for me-- I typically go back and use a synonym or else deliberate misspelling (as in the above).
I think the robocensors go haywire once in awhile, after all, what could possibly be wrong with black powder? I can type black powder, black powder...but you can't type black powder???

Oh well, black powder to all and to all a good night;0)
Imhotep

Silver Springs, FL

#172946 Jul 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Grey-boxers (such as yourself) can get banned too.
The database that preserves the posts? Has information that links each post back to the computer that posted it.
It's how Topix knows to "remember" the name you used from before, when you start to post a new item.
So the ban-hammer simply deletes all the database items that have this same ID code in the ID field.
And **boom** a grey boxer's posts are sent to nifelheim.
They can also prevent that individual computer's signature, from accessing Topix too.
But that latter is easily spoofed, if you have a modicum of netskils.
Very informative- as usual - thank you!

All my posting is done from my iPhone5.

I avoid Zoosk Facebook LinkedIn Twitter Skype et al.

I post where an opinion can be entered without joining anything.

I spend a lot of time in Florida so the Zimmerman trial is been a point of interest last several weeks.
Imhotep

Silver Springs, FL

#172947 Jul 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
A couple of things.
You can send and receive private messages (but that is blockable too, by individual users-- I quite imagine that the hategodbots block all incoming messages, so they can pretend they are not hate-filled).
But, to me? The most important benefit? Is nobody can misuse your name.
I've had grey-boxers attempt that with mine. They had no success, and fooled no one, of course.
The majority of the time I use the corporate laptop.
This is limited solely to the company intranet.
Travel quite a bit mostly east of the Mississippi River.

As far as editing topics does have a flaw and I'm sure you've noticed it!

If you find an article that contains offensive words from any website, copy and paste this article into notes, Edit for content include URL and post to topics.

Error occurs saying please refrain from using bad language or something to that effect.

Reenter the same four numbers, press post comment, the whole post goes through un-edited or restricted.

As a computer professional it's only doing this edit one time, then bypasses it!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#172948 Jul 25, 2013
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
He only kills people like you , and in due time. We see why.
If he kills people like us, why do you want us to follow your murderous cult so badly?
spudgun

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#172949 Jul 25, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
If he kills people like us, why do you want us to follow your murderous cult so badly?
The promise of paradise and (some) believers have a lack of empathy so fantasise about hellish torments.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172950 Jul 25, 2013
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
He only kills people like you , and in due time. We see why.
"Just Results" displaying the REAL meaning of "Jesus is Love" once more.

Orwellian, of course.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172951 Jul 25, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
A mad Jewish scientist thought he created the perfect weapon, he called it god. He became a lunatic causing it to kill everybody except Jews, except it started killing Jews too. He forgot to invent an "off" button for it.
An atheist came up with an off button, but the religious nuts still have problem with it, they cant find it. But it does have one and is best kept in the off position, in the "on" position it's a lunatics weapon.
A **brilliant** analogy.

Well done!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#172952 Jul 25, 2013
albtraum wrote:
<quoted text>
I think the robocensors go haywire once in awhile, after all, what could possibly be wrong with black powder? I can type black powder, black powder...but you can't type black powder???
Oh well, black powder to all and to all a good night;0)
:)

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