Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

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Imhotep

Howey In The Hills, FL

#170954 Jul 5, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
Ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:26).
"God sent forth his Son, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ" (Galatians 4:4, 5, 7).
YEA JESUS CHRIST! MY LORD AND SAVIOR!
Therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.--2 Kings 15:16

Don't feel bad Mohammad has the same problem... With Infidels like you!

Quran
Allah hath cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.--4:46

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#170955 Jul 5, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Therefore he smote it; and all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.--2 Kings 15:16
Don't feel bad Mohammad has the same problem... With Infidels like you!
Quran
Allah hath cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.--4:46
He said (Matthew 10:32 & 33): "Everyone therefore

Who acknowledges me before others, I also will acknowledge

before My Father in heaven; but whosoever denies Me

before others, I also will deny before My Father in heaven".

Yes, I love God. He is my source of life and my Savior. He keeps me alive day

and night.

Without Him, I am nothing, but with Him "I can do all things through Him

who strengthens me". Philippians 4:13.

This is the simple proof. If you love God and you are a believer and trust

in salvation through Christ Jesus,
Imhotep

Howey In The Hills, FL

#170956 Jul 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.viewzone.com/mithras.html
Things are never as simple as you would like to believe.
They're only simple until you look a little deeper...
Horus vs JC

1. Both were conceived of a virgin.
2. Both were the "only begotten son" of a god (either Osiris or Yahweh)
3. Horus's mother was Meri, Jesus's mother was Mary.
4. Horus's foster father was called Jo-Seph, and Jesus's foster father was Joseph.
5. Both foster fathers were of royal descent.
6. Both were born in a cave (although sometimes Jesus is said to have been born in a stable).
7. Both had their coming announced to their mother by an angel.
8. Horus; birth was heralded by the star Sirius (the morning star). Jesus had his birth heralded by a star in the East (the sun rises in the East).
9. Ancient Egyptians celebrated the birth of Horus on December 21 (the Winter Solstice). Modern Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25.
10. Both births were announced by angels (this si nto the same as number 7).
11. Both had shepherds witnessing the birth.
12. Horus was visited at birth by "three solar deities" and Jesus was visited by "three wise men".
13. After the birth of Horus, Herut tried to have Horus murdered. After the birth of Jesus, Herod tried to have Jesus murdered.
14. To hide from Herut, the god That tells Isis, "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." To hide from Herod, an angel tells Joseph to "arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."
15. When Horus came of age, he had a special ritual where hsi eye was restored. When Jesus (and other Jews) come of age, they have a special ritual called a Bar Mitzvah.
16. Both Horus and Jesus were 12 at this coming-of-age ritual.
17. Neither have any official recorded life histories between the ages of 12 and 30.
18. Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus. Jesus was baptized in the river Jordan.
19. Both were baptized at age 30.
20. Horus was baptized by Anup the Baptizer. Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
21. Both Anup and John were later beheaded.
22. Horus was taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Set. Jesus was taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Satan.
23. Both Horus and Jesus successfully resist this temptation.
24. Both have 12 disciples.
25. Both walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, and restored sight to the blind.
26. Horus "stilled the sea by his power." Jesus commanded the sea to be still by saying, "Peace, be still."
27. Horus raised his dead father (Osiris) from the grave. Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave.(Note the similarity in names when you say them out loud. Further, Osiris was also known as Asar, which is El-Asar in Hebrew, which is El-Asarus in Latin.)
28. Osiris was raised in the town of Anu. Lazarus was raised in Livanu (literally, "house of Anu").
29. Both gods delivered a Sermon on the Mount.
30. Both were crucified.
31. Both were crucified next to two thieves.
32. Both were buried in a tomb.
33. Horus was sent to Hell and resurrected in 3 days. Jesus was sent to Hell and came back "three days" later (although Friday night to Sunday morning is hardly three days).
34. Both had their resurrection announced by women.
35. Both are supposed to return for a 1000-year reign.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#170957 Jul 5, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>He said (Matthew 10:32 & 33): "Everyone therefore
Who acknowledges me before others, I also will acknowledge
before My Father in heaven; but whosoever denies Me
before others, I also will deny before My Father in heaven".
Yes, I love God. He is my source of life and my Savior. He keeps me alive day
and night.
Without Him, I am nothing, but with Him "I can do all things through Him
who strengthens me". Philippians 4:13.
This is the simple proof. If you love God and you are a believer and trust
in salvation through Christ Jesus,

Those chickens believe and trust the person leading them to the slaughter too.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#170958 Jul 5, 2013
Did you see a photo on his profile before Dave?

Time to take your meds and get on some dry pants you senile old loser.
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>Your current avatar suits you very well. Blank. Nothing there.
Favorite Adversary

Brooklyn, NY

#170959 Jul 5, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
They're only simple until you look a little deeper...
Horus vs JC
1. Both were conceived of a virgin.
2. Both were the "only begotten son" of a god (either Osiris or Yahweh)
3. Horus's mother was Meri, Jesus's mother was Mary.
4. Horus's foster father was called Jo-Seph, and Jesus's foster father was Joseph.
5. Both foster fathers were of royal descent.
6. Both were born in a cave (although sometimes Jesus is said to have been born in a stable).
7. Both had their coming announced to their mother by an angel.
8. Horus; birth was heralded by the star Sirius (the morning star). Jesus had his birth heralded by a star in the East (the sun rises in the East).
9. Ancient Egyptians celebrated the birth of Horus on December 21 (the Winter Solstice). Modern Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25.
10. Both births were announced by angels (this si nto the same as number 7).
11. Both had shepherds witnessing the birth.
12. Horus was visited at birth by "three solar deities" and Jesus was visited by "three wise men".
13. After the birth of Horus, Herut tried to have Horus murdered. After the birth of Jesus, Herod tried to have Jesus murdered.
14. To hide from Herut, the god That tells Isis, "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child." To hide from Herod, an angel tells Joseph to "arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."
15. When Horus came of age, he had a special ritual where hsi eye was restored. When Jesus (and other Jews) come of age, they have a special ritual called a Bar Mitzvah.
16. Both Horus and Jesus were 12 at this coming-of-age ritual.
17. Neither have any official recorded life histories between the ages of 12 and 30.
18. Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus. Jesus was baptized in the river Jordan.
19. Both were baptized at age 30.
20. Horus was baptized by Anup the Baptizer. Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.
21. Both Anup and John were later beheaded.
22. Horus was taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Set. Jesus was taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Satan.
23. Both Horus and Jesus successfully resist this temptation.
24. Both have 12 disciples.
25. Both walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, and restored sight to the blind.
26. Horus "stilled the sea by his power." Jesus commanded the sea to be still by saying, "Peace, be still."
27. Horus raised his dead father (Osiris) from the grave. Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave.(Note the similarity in names when you say them out loud. Further, Osiris was also known as Asar, which is El-Asar in Hebrew, which is El-Asarus in Latin.)
28. Osiris was raised in the town of Anu. Lazarus was raised in Livanu (literally, "house of Anu").
29. Both gods delivered a Sermon on the Mount.
30. Both were crucified.
31. Both were crucified next to two thieves.
32. Both were buried in a tomb.
33. Horus was sent to Hell and resurrected in 3 days. Jesus was sent to Hell and came back "three days" later (although Friday night to Sunday morning is hardly three days).
34. Both had their resurrection announced by women.
35. Both are supposed to return for a 1000-year reign.
http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/horus.ht...
Imhotep

Howey In The Hills, FL

#170960 Jul 5, 2013
T-Town Clown wrote:
<quoted text>I would banned for life for that one!! Maybe even stoned to death
You don't have to worry about it!
you can't get stoned to death on Lemon Diesel!

Now these might qualify for a proper stoning!

A little boy is standing on top of a cliff, looking down at the sea and crying his eyes out. A priest approaches and says, "My child, why are you so upset?"

The little boy turns to him and says, "My mummy and daddy were in their car -- and it just rolled over the cliff and smashed on the rocks down there."

The priest slowly looks around him while unbuttoning his cassock and says, "It's just not your day, is it?"

Q: How does Jesus masturbate?
A:[Mime: place the palm of your hand over your groin, then move your hand away from and towards yourself, as if you were using the hole through your palm.]

What do you give a paedophile who has everything?
A bigger parish.

An Arab man dies and arrives at the Pearly Gates.
"Yes, how can I help?" asks St Peter.
"I'm here to meet Jesus," says the Arab man.
St Peter looks over his shoulder and shouts, "Jesus, your cab is here!"

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#170961 Jul 5, 2013
At least they got brains...
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>That was the real me, little one. In a stiff cold breeze and in a serious need of a haircut. Which is a condition I am in again now. I have to drive 20 miles to get a haircut.

None of the women in my family were "lookers". They had brains, but not the looks.

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#170962 Jul 5, 2013
Still waiting for that historical proof that your Jew on a stick Jesus even existed.

Or have you surrendered on that?

Atheists win... As usual.
T-Town Clown wrote:
Ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:26).

"God sent forth his Son, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ" (Galatians 4:4, 5, 7).

YEA JESUS CHRIST! MY LORD AND SAVIOR!

Since: Mar 11

Louisville, KY

#170963 Jul 5, 2013
Lol! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Lmfao!

Hahahaha!

Oh that was funny! Thanks for the laughs!
Favorite Adversary wrote:
<quoted text>The entire Mithras comparison was answered over a hundred years ago. It has only become popular in the last 10 years among a younger generation that doesn't know the true story of the Mithras comparisons.

It is true that Mithraism was a competing religion with Christianity, but a very close look will reveal that all of these "supposed" similarities borrowed from Christianity, and not the other way around. Mithraism originated in Persia 400 years before Christ, but in a very different format. In the original format, Mithra wasn't "born of a virgin" at all. He allegedly emerged out of a rock, fully grown. Also, the whole business about having disciples is false. Mithras is often depicted in carvings with either 12 astrological signs (zodiac) or killing a bull which has nothing in common with Jesus. There are no Mithraic scriptures to tell us anything.

Comparisons to Mithras always amuse me. ;)
Favorite Adversary

Brooklyn, NY

#170964 Jul 5, 2013
Wreck of the Titan vs. Titanic Tragedy

Wreck of the Titan was a novel written by Morgan Robertson in 1898. It's very similar to the true story of the Titanic tragedy of 1915.

1. The "Titan" was the largest passenger ship ever built at the time according to the storyline in the novel.

1a. The Titanic was the largest passenger ship ever built when it set out on it's maiden voyage in 1915.

2. The "Titan" struck an iceberg and sank with horrible loss of life.

2a. The Titanic struck an iceberg and sank with a horrible loss of life.

3. The "Titan" was on it's maiden voyage in the month of April.

3a. The Titanic was on its maiden voyage in the month of April.

4. The six letters of the ship in Morgan Robertson's novel are T-I-T-A-N.

4a. The first six letters of the ship that sailed in 1915 are T-I-T-A-N.

5. The "Titan" had 24 lifeboats.

5a. The Titanic had 20 lifeboats.

6. The "Titan" featured an orchestra.

6a. Wait-for-it :) The Titanic featured an orchestra!

The Wreck of the Titan was published in 1898, 17 years before the Titanic set sail. Did this story cause the creation and sinking of the Titanic or otherwise inspire all of the events in that tragedy?

For your reading pleasure imtohep, I've included links to the now free e-book "Wreck of the Titan" and the original news report of the loss of the Titanic for you to compare. I'm sure you're aware of where I'm going with this. Have fun! ;)

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24880/24880-h/...

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthi...

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthi...

Imhotep

Howey In The Hills, FL

#170965 Jul 5, 2013
Favorite Adversary wrote:
<quoted text>
The entire Mithras comparison was answered over a hundred years ago. It has only become popular in the last 10 years among a younger generation that doesn't know the true story of the Mithras comparisons.
It is true that Mithraism was a competing religion with Christianity, but a very close look will reveal that all of these "supposed" similarities borrowed from Christianity, and not the other way around. Mithraism originated in Persia 400 years before Christ, but in a very different format. In the original format, Mithra wasn't "born of a virgin" at all. He allegedly emerged out of a rock, fully grown. Also, the whole business about having disciples is false. Mithras is often depicted in carvings with either 12 astrological signs (zodiac) or killing a bull which has nothing in common with Jesus. There are no Mithraic scriptures to tell us anything.
Comparisons to Mithras always amuse me. ;)
Old myths amuse me as well, hence my curiosity with the religious - whatever flavor they savor!

Horus > Krishna > Mithras > Jesus

All cut for more or less the same cloth just a different color and length.

The Christian view that all intercourse outside marriage is immoral was based upon the view that all sexual intercourse, even within marriage, is regrettable.

A view of this sort, which goes against biological facts, can only be regarded by some people as a morbid aberration.

The fact that it is embedded in Christian ethics has made Christianity throughout its whole history a force tending towards mental disorders and unwholesome views of life.

Crimen Sollicitationis look it up!

The appalling 39-page document, Crimen Sollicitationis, was issued worldwide in 1962 by then Cardinal, Ratzinger, outlining procedures to protect priests accused of sexual abusing minors and sexually propositioning penitents, and how to conceal these violations.

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#170966 Jul 5, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
Old myths amuse me as well, hence my curiosity with the religious - whatever flavor they savor!
Horus > Krishna > Mithras > Jesus
All cut for more or less the same cloth just a different color and length.
The Christian view that all intercourse outside marriage is immoral was based upon the view that all sexual intercourse, even within marriage, is regrettable.
A view of this sort, which goes against biological facts, can only be regarded by some people as a morbid aberration.
The fact that it is embedded in Christian ethics has made Christianity throughout its whole history a force tending towards mental disorders and unwholesome views of life.
Crimen Sollicitationis look it up!
The appalling 39-page document, Crimen Sollicitationis, was issued worldwide in 1962 by then Cardinal, Ratzinger, outlining procedures to protect priests accused of sexual abusing minors and sexually propositioning penitents, and how to conceal these violations.
What were the differences in their messages?
Imhotep

Howey In The Hills, FL

#170967 Jul 5, 2013
Favorite Adversary wrote:
Wreck of the Titan vs. Titanic Tragedy
Wreck of the Titan was a novel written by Morgan Robertson in 1898. It's very similar to the true story of the Titanic tragedy of 1915.
1. The "Titan" was the largest passenger ship ever built at the time according to the storyline in the novel.
1a. The Titanic was the largest passenger ship ever built when it set out on it's maiden voyage in 1915.
2. The "Titan" struck an iceberg and sank with horrible loss of life.
2a. The Titanic struck an iceberg and sank with a horrible loss of life.
3. The "Titan" was on it's maiden voyage in the month of April.
3a. The Titanic was on its maiden voyage in the month of April.
4. The six letters of the ship in Morgan Robertson's novel are T-I-T-A-N.
4a. The first six letters of the ship that sailed in 1915 are T-I-T-A-N.
5. The "Titan" had 24 lifeboats.
5a. The Titanic had 20 lifeboats.
6. The "Titan" featured an orchestra.
6a. Wait-for-it :) The Titanic featured an orchestra!
The Wreck of the Titan was published in 1898, 17 years before the Titanic set sail. Did this story cause the creation and sinking of the Titanic or otherwise inspire all of the events in that tragedy?
For your reading pleasure imtohep, I've included links to the now free e-book "Wreck of the Titan" and the original news report of the loss of the Titanic for you to compare. I'm sure you're aware of where I'm going with this. Have fun! ;)
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24880/24880-h/...
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthi...
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthi...
There are weird similarities between Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy.

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846. John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860. John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were shot in the back of the head in the presence of their wives.

Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.

Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

Lincoln was shot in the Ford Theatre. Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln, made by Ford.

Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse. Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran And hid in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

http://mobile.omg-facts.com/Celebs/There-Are-...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln –Kennedy_coincidences_urban_le gend
Imhotep

Howey In The Hills, FL

#170968 Jul 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
What were the differences in their messages?
This is something you would find interesting Dave.
Having toured Italy and Egypt we found it fascinating.

But I feel these old axioms pretty much sum up everything we Homo sapiens shall ever need.

what do you think? ;)

Do these need to be improved at all?

"This is the sum of duty. Do not unto others that which would cause you pain if done to you." -- Mahabharata 5:1517, from the Vedic tradition of India, circa 3000 BCE

"What is hateful to you, do not to our fellow man. That is entire Law, all the rest is commentary." -- Talmud, Shabbat 31a, from the Judaic tradition, circa 1300 BCE

"That nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself." -- Avesta, Dadistan-i-dinik 94:5, from the Zoroastrian tradition, circa 600 BCE

"Hurt not others in ways that you find hurtful." -- Tripitaka, Udanga-varga 5,18 , from the Buddhist tradition, circa 525 BCE

"Surely it is the maxim of loving kindness, do not unto others that which you would not have done unto you." -- Analects, Lun-yu XV,23, from the Confucian tradition, circa 500 BCE

"One should treat all beings as he himself would be treated." -- Agamas, Sutrakrtanga 1.10, 1-3, from the Jain tradition, circa 500 BCE

"Regard your neighbor's gain as your gain and your neighbor's loss as your loss." -- Tai-shang Kang-ying P'ien, from the Taoist tradition, circa 500 BCE

"Do not do to others that which would anger you if others did it to you." -- Socrates (the Greek philosopher), circa 470-399 BCE

Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#170970 Jul 5, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
This is something you would find interesting Dave.
Having toured Italy and Egypt we found it fascinating.
But I feel these old axioms pretty much sum up everything we Homo sapiens shall ever need.
what do you think? ;)
Do these need to be improved at all?
"This is the sum of duty. Do not unto others that which would cause you pain if done to you." -- Mahabharata 5:1517, from the Vedic tradition of India, circa 3000 BCE
"What is hateful to you, do not to our fellow man. That is entire Law, all the rest is commentary." -- Talmud, Shabbat 31a, from the Judaic tradition, circa 1300 BCE
"That nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself." -- Avesta, Dadistan-i-dinik 94:5, from the Zoroastrian tradition, circa 600 BCE
"Hurt not others in ways that you find hurtful." -- Tripitaka, Udanga-varga 5,18 , from the Buddhist tradition, circa 525 BCE
"Surely it is the maxim of loving kindness, do not unto others that which you would not have done unto you." -- Analects, Lun-yu XV,23, from the Confucian tradition, circa 500 BCE
"One should treat all beings as he himself would be treated." -- Agamas, Sutrakrtanga 1.10, 1-3, from the Jain tradition, circa 500 BCE
"Regard your neighbor's gain as your gain and your neighbor's loss as your loss." -- Tai-shang Kang-ying P'ien, from the Taoist tradition, circa 500 BCE
"Do not do to others that which would anger you if others did it to you." -- Socrates (the Greek philosopher), circa 470-399 BCE
My question regarded those religious figures you said were equivalent. What did they bring to mankind? what was their message? JC said you could have an afterlife if you truly believed in what he said. What did the others say?

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#170971 Jul 5, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Still waiting for that historical proof that your Jew on a stick Jesus even existed.
Or have you surrendered on that?
Atheists win... As usual.
<quoted text>
H. G. Wells, British writer, 1866-1946

When asked which person left the most permanent impression on history, he replied that judging a person’s greatness by historical standards:

“By this test, Jesus stands first.”

“I am a historian, I am not a believer, but I must confess as a historian that this penniless preacher from Nazareth is irrevocably the very center of history. Jesus Christ is easily the most dominant figure in all history.”

“Christ is the most unique person of history. No man can write a history of the human race without giving first and foremost place to the penniless teacher of Nazareth.”8-9-10 JESUS WINS~~~~!
Imhotep

Howey In The Hills, FL

#170972 Jul 5, 2013
Dave Nelson wrote:
<quoted text>
My question regarded those religious figures you said were equivalent. What did they bring to mankind? what was their message? JC said you could have an afterlife if you truly believed in what he said. What did the others say?
More or less the same thing.

With the Egyptians you needed sufficient resources to pay to be mummified. Without this there was no afterlife.

The Egyptian book of the dead is really a good read. A look into the human mind and how it ponders death.

Each has a similar background in the origin or background of their respective saviors/gods.

Too many similarities for my taste.

If I were to select a religion it would be Jainism.
I like their ideas even though I find them mythical.
There is no hatred. No war. Inner peace only sustained by living properly.

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#170973 Jul 5, 2013
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Since: Sep 08

Lamar, CO

#170974 Jul 5, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>
More or less the same thing.
With the Egyptians you needed sufficient resources to pay to be mummified. Without this there was no afterlife.
The Egyptian book of the dead is really a good read. A look into the human mind and how it ponders death.
Each has a similar background in the origin or background of their respective saviors/gods.
Too many similarities for my taste.
If I were to select a religion it would be Jainism.
I like their ideas even though I find them mythical.
There is no hatred. No war. Inner peace only sustained by living properly.
You are missing something in those messages. Jesus was the savior of everyone, rich and poor. A personal link to the Creator. His was the only message that allowed for you to follow your individual conscience instead of the herd and earthly masters. Don't go by the corruption of that message later by men seeking power.

I said earlier you got roped by a cult. You are getting egged on by others to tear down something for them, to fight their battles for them.

Secular humanism is a mythology. A Utopian ideal. The reality is the morality and what you are to think and how you will live will be determined by the men at the top, not from the bottom. I will guarantee you they will not live by the same rules they establish for you. Think long and hard about how societies work before you start dismantling it. A religion may be a myth, but you look at the rules and see if it is the best for the masses. Rule books change very quickly when men are gods.

Forget Utopia, get practical.

There is a reality you will be facing in your generation. Too damned many people for a democracy. The world population has more than doubled in my life span. It will do the same or more within yours. Your value goes down with each new addition.

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